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thompsonx -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/25/2016 5:29:22 PM)


ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


ORIGINAL: thompsonx

I've reported a few months ago about the huge donations to the clinton foundation that followed upon the sale of the uranium to the russians.


Its pretty obvious there was quid pro quo. But forgetting that - I'd just like Hillary to go on the record and explain why the sale of 50% of the US's uranium assets to the russians was a good thing.
Why do I have a problem with the Russians controlling the majority of US Uranium?


50% is not a majority.

Well, for one - we have laws that we don't allow foreigners to control strategic assets.

Really???? perhaps you could link us to that law?


d S. 1610, the Foreign
Investment and National Security Act (FINSA) of 2007

I pluged that into google and this is what I got:

28 U.S. Code § 1610 - Exceptions to the immunity from attachment or execution
(a) The property in the United States of a foreign state, as defined in section 1603(a) of this chapter, used for a commercial activity in the United States, shall not be immune from attachment in aid of execution, or from execution, upon a judgment entered by a court of the United States or of a State after the effective date of this Act

So according to the law you linked me to the amerikan government can take it anytime they feel like it.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/25/2016 6:34:04 PM)

No. You've just admitted you have shit google fu. Nothing else.




thompsonx -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/25/2016 6:38:09 PM)


ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

No. You've just admitted you have shit google fu. Nothing else.


I copy and pasted your link to google. So what is your issue? If that is not the law you linked then post what you think you are talking about.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/25/2016 7:08:42 PM)

Back to original topic.

In politics, it is said that you can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time. In other words, liars have pretty good odds. The smoking guns keep piling up at Hillary Clinton’s feet, but nothing seems to trip her. Yesterday, Judicial Watch released a batch of documents, obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request, that it says reveals blatant coordination between then-Secretary of State Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. Stunningly, the internal State Department emails expose Clinton’s eagerness to “thank [Clinton Foundation] supporters for their commitments.” Of course, these “commitments” must mean money. It’s incredible.

And, Clinton’s State Department was apparently coordinating meetings for Bill Clinton with foreign heads of state. If any other employee at the State Department had arranged such meetings for their spouse and actively thanked contributors to their spouse’s foundation, they would likely go to jail. No lawyer would even let it go to trial, because the sentencing guidelines would guarantee years behind bars. Another way to think about what was going on is to imagine that another country’s foreign minister’s spouse or family ran a foundation that American companies were caught giving to. Those American companies would certainly be vulnerable to prosecution by the Justice Department under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA).

It’s only because Hillary’s last name is Clinton and because she is the Democratic front-runner for president that she isn’t already being prosecuted for something or another. For anyone else at the State Department, their conviction and sentencing would produce only a matter-of-fact, back-page reference in The Washington Post.

The double standard doesn’t end there. If any other State Department employee had decided to conduct all of his or her official business on a personal server located in his or her private home, that person would have already been prosecuted. Period. Full stop. And the story of that guilty plea would only have been prominent in the news because of the brazen gall displayed by the officeholder in question.

While it’s not all criminal, Clinton’s record of deceit has become something of an advantage for her campaign. One thing she can count on is that no one trusts her or believes what she says about her current policy positions. She rails against the big banks and the bankers she has always been cozy with, in part as a response to the popularity of Bernie Sanders’s message. But if you ask any bankers how they feel about Hillary Clinton as president, they will tell you they don’t fear a Hillary Clinton presidency. They will tell you that Hillary Clinton knows them and they know her. No one believes her White House would be hostile to the financial services industry. No one assumes she is telling the truth. They all know she is just saying what she has to say on the campaign trail in order to pacify the most gullible among the Democratic voters. The bankers and Wall Street types all count on the idea that whatever Clinton says in the campaign is irrelevant. They are all getting the message; they all see the wink, and they are happy to shrug off today’s rhetoric.


It’s the same thing with the free-trade advocates and the Keystone XL pipeline opponents. There is not one business executive who thinks a President Hillary Clinton would actually block the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade treaty. The anti-Keystone groups will rely more on Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau than on Hillary Clinton’s newly minted assertions that the pipeline won’t get built.

Don’t just take it from me. Voters can sense her lack of authenticity and sincerity. In the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll, 59 percent of voters said that Hillary Clinton is not honest and trustworthy. The only person who is viewed as being even less trustworthy is the Republican front-runner, Donald Trump. How is it that in a country of approximately 330 million people, there aren’t two well-adjusted, honorable people who are likely to end up being our choices to be president of the United States?

It’s all very discouraging. Election 2016 is taking American politics beyond a new low, entering us into a reality where deceit and deception are assumed.

Ed Rogers is a contributor to the PostPartisan blog, a political consultant and a veteran of the White House and several national campaigns. He is the chairman of the lobbying and communications firm BGR Group, which he founded with former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour in 1991.
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thompsonx -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/25/2016 7:14:03 PM)


ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

Back to original topic.

Once again we see how full of shit you really are[8|]




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/26/2016 10:04:00 AM)

Interesting article, couple of paragraphs excerpted:

quote:


 Except we’ve been doing exactly the opposite. We’ve become the planet’s salesman for natural gas—and a key player in this scheme could become the next president of the United States. When Hillary Clinton took over the State Department, she set up a special arm, the Bureau of Energy Resources, after close consultation with oil and gas executives. This bureau, with 63 employees, was soon helping sponsor conferences around the world. And much more: Diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks show that the secretary of state was essentially acting as a broker for the shale-gas industry, twisting the arms of world leaders to make sure US firms got to frack at will.

To take just one example, an article in Mother Jones based on the WikiLeaks cables reveals what happened when fracking came to Bulgaria. In 2011, the country signed a $68 million deal with Chevron, granting the company millions of acres in shale-gas concessions. The Bulgarian public wasn’t happy: Tens of thousands were in the streets of Sofia with banners reading Stop Fracking With Our Water. But when Clinton came for a state visit in 2012, she sided with Chevron (one of whose executives had bundled large sums for her presidential campaign in 2008). In fact, the leaked cables show that the main topic of her meetings with Bulgaria’s leaders was fracking. Clinton offered to fly in the “best specialists on these new technologies to present the benefits to the Bulgarian people,” and she dispatched her Eurasian energy envoy, Richard Morningstar, to lobby hard against a fracking ban in neighboring Romania. Eventually, they won those battles—and today, the State Department provides “assistance” with fracking to dozens of countries around the world, from Cambodia to Papua New Guinea.


One wonders how the rabid left - known for banning fracking will handle the revelation that she is instrumental in its spread.




thompsonx -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/26/2016 11:39:57 AM)

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

One wonders how the rabid left - known for banning fracking will handle the revelation that she is instrumental in its spread.


Who on the rabid left supports her?




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 5:29:21 AM)

"Report: Feds Moving Forward With Plan To Interview Hillary In Email Investigation"

quote:

Two reports out Sunday provide new details about the FBI’s investigation of Hillary Clinton, including that 147 FBI agents have been involved in the probe and that federal prosecutors are expected to soon seek an interview with the presidential candidate.

According to The Los Angeles Times, prosecutors have contacted the attorneys for the top Clinton State Department aides who sent and received classified information that landed on the former secretary of state’s private email server...

To carry out its probe, the FBI has marshaled the resources of 147 agents, a member of Congress briefed by FBI director James Comey told The Washington Post.

According to the paper, the FBI has sped up its investigation in order to avoid announcing a decision too close to the election in November.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/27/report-feds-moving-forward-with-plan-to-interview-hillary-in-email-investigation/





mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 7:19:57 AM)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. This is big. Big I tell you.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 9:03:20 AM)

Good editorial on media bias from IBD:

Media Bias: The Washington Post led its Monday paper with a story titled “How Clinton’s Email Scandal Took Root.” What it revealed was that, left to the mainstream press, the story might never have hit the ground.

No one reading the Post’s 5,000-word account can come away thinking that the Clinton email scandal is unimportant.

The FBI now has 147 agents chasing down leads. A key person involved in the scandal has been granted immunity. Hillary Clinton — who has already been caught in several lies — might be questioned by federal agents. There are fairly obvious violations of the law, even if it’s just those governing record-keeping. And there were, and continue to be, concerns that national security secrets were compromised, or at least casually disregarded.

The story details, for example, the many high-level security concerns that officials had about her use of a private BlackBerry to do her emailing, to say nothing of her homebrew email server.

Clinton got a warning from a State Department security official in March 2009 that “any unclassified BlackBerry is highly vulnerable in any setting to remotely and covertly monitoring conversations, retrieving emails, and exploiting calendars.”

Clinton responded that she “gets it,” but as the Post reports, she “kept using her private BlackBerry — and the basement server.”

The Post deserves credit for devoting so much space to summing the entire saga up. And for exposing something the reporter and his editors probably never intended: The media’s negligence as the scandal unfolded.

While the New York Times was the first national media outlet to write about Clinton’s use of a private email account last March, the Post summation makes clear that the mainstream press had almost nothing to do with uncovering the truth or advancing the story.

The Post notes that it was a nonprofit group called CREW that first cracked the story open, when the State Department responded to its FOIA request for Clinton’s State Department email addresses by saying “no records responsive to your request.”
The much-ballyhooed House Select Committee on Benghazi discovered her use of a private email account after demanding copies of her email traffic around the time of the attack on the embassy.
Private cybersecurity firm Venafi discovered how Clinton’s email server had been unencrypted for months. The company “took it upon itself,” the Post notes, to publish its findings on its own website.
The public release of all Clinton’s State Department emails resulted not from pressure from NBC News, CNN or the New York Times, but from a FOIA request by a startup online news site called Vice News.
Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group, has been more aggressive than any media outlet in going after Clinton’s records, and as a result uncovered several damning emails, including a chain of emails showing how her staff was “taking steps that would help her circumvent” Clinton’s own promise of openness and transparency.
And where has the “telling truth to power” press been during all this time? Sure, they’ve been passively sharing information when it came out — although often grudgingly and dismissively. But there are few elements of it that reporters themselves were responsible for breaking.
Normally, with a scandal this juicy and involving a would-be president, reporters would be falling over themselves to “advance the story.” But “normal” never seems to apply when a scandal involves a Democrat.

The FBI has 147 investigators focused on the Clinton email case. One wonders how many investigative reporters the New York Times, the Post, and all the other big media outlets have.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 9:09:51 AM)

Not media bias, the nutsuckers slobber blogs are all over it. The other media outlets looked into it, and after endless benghazi and email asswipe, said, this is fucking stupid nutsuckerism and went on to report useful things.

So, the felch is only too real to the felchers.

Factually based people, not so much.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 9:30:51 AM)

Apparently you don't ionclude the FBI in... factually based..




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 9:55:46 AM)

I do, they are wrapping up the investigation. The mainstream media blasted it all over that the FBI was investigating. That is fact. Anything new on that? Nope. Nothing to report. Its not news. Nothing is nothing until the FBI completes their investigation, they are absolutely not talkers about ongoing investigations.

Apparently you can't tell fact from fiction.





Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 11:17:30 AM)

One doesn't announce a 'criminal' investigation for 'nothing'.
One doesn't seek to interview witnesses for 'nothing'.
Its pretty clear that the director of the FBI thinks there is adequate grounds to proceed, based on evidence to date.

By the way otter, wasn't it you poo-pooing the idea that the fbi had put 100 or 150 agents on this case about 200 posts ago, why yes, yes I believe it was.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 11:19:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Not media bias, the nutsuckers slobber blogs are all over it. The other media outlets looked into it, and after endless benghazi and email asswipe, said, this is fucking stupid nutsuckerism and went on to report useful things.

So, the felch is only too real to the felchers.

Factually based people, not so much.


Back to the gibberish, eh. Too bad I rather appreciated the coherent responses.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 11:39:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Not media bias, the nutsuckers slobber blogs are all over it. The other media outlets looked into it, and after endless benghazi and email asswipe, said, this is fucking stupid nutsuckerism and went on to report useful things.

So, the felch is only too real to the felchers.

Factually based people, not so much.


Back to the gibberish, eh. Too bad I rather appreciated the coherent responses.


Nope punctiliously correct English for the situation and the rather pathetic level of the clientele it is aimed at.


I see you aint quit with the gibberish since you have arrived, including this post.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 11:47:56 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

One doesn't announce a 'criminal' investigation for 'nothing'.
One doesn't seek to interview witnesses for 'nothing'.
Its pretty clear that the director of the FBI thinks there is adequate grounds to proceed, based on evidence to date.

By the way otter, wasn't it you poo-pooing the idea that the fbi had put 100 or 150 agents on this case about 200 posts ago, why yes, yes I believe it was.



One did not announce a thing. One does investigate and interview witnesses for nothing when ones boss the DOJ directs them to do so. The FBI investigated many American citizens for nothing based on the nutsucker Nixons order. The FBI investigated Ferguson MO for nothing. They do nothing all the time, ad nauseam.

I poopooed nothing of the sort. Werent you the one who was asshole buddies with the Attorney Generals office and had the inside scoop to that and the FBI and all the guys by the hundreds who are was gonna almost quitting stuff? That is what you recall from a couple hundred posts ago. Your trust me in the face of your factless and pathetic propaganda is not going to bear up any better. But that will not stop the factless uninformed spewing geyser of asswipe from noisome pantshitting howl, ad nauseam.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 1:59:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Not media bias, the nutsuckers slobber blogs are all over it. The other media outlets looked into it, and after endless benghazi and email asswipe, said, this is fucking stupid nutsuckerism and went on to report useful things.

So, the felch is only too real to the felchers.

Factually based people, not so much.


Back to the gibberish, eh. Too bad I rather appreciated the coherent responses.


Nope punctiliously correct English for the situation and the rather pathetic level of the clientele it is aimed at.


I see you aint quit with the gibberish since you have arrived, including this post.



Your standard response that everything is the fault of n##### and f##### brings nothing to the conversation. No facts - its just you saying, once again its the conservatives fault.
Pointless waste of space.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/29/2016 2:14:21 PM)

Moreso of course is the method and propaganda of the nutsuckers. 31 pages of hyperbole, factlessness, propaganda, felching, masturbating and pantshitting provided by the nutsuckers, not fact, nothing to add to the conversation, no conversation to be had.

What morons are making these frenetic pud pounding threads? What morons are saying stupid slobbering shit from Sun myung Moon and other nutsucker slobber bloggers on these threads? What nutsuckers promote factless propaganda and outright lies on these threads and say .........."trust me"? Nutsuckers. *shrugs* I gotta work with the cretins in front of me.









Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (3/30/2016 12:44:57 AM)

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A second federal judge has taken the rare step of allowing a group suing for records from Hillary Clinton's time as U.S. secretary of state to seek sworn testimony from officials, saying there was "evidence of government wrong-doing and bad faith."




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