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RE: do you suffer from Low self-esteem - 8/4/2015 1:54:44 PM   
DerangedUnit


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Unfortunately, issues of self-esteem are never that black and white.

A person's esteem is never derived solely from body image, because it is not derived from one thing about ourselves, but many things.

One major barometer of good self-esteem is: How much is determined by the internal, and how much form the external?

When all your self-esteem is derived from the external: how you look (which of course includes body image), what car you drive, how expensive your clothes are, what others think about you, etc. then you have a far greater chance of having huge esteem issues throughout your life. This is b/c our lives are always subject to change, and often w/o warning. What if you get old and lose your looks? (It happens to all of us, eventually.) What if you lose your good job and can't afford a flash car or pricey clothes? These things happen.

But if your self-esteem is determined by internal things, that is, your own personal sense of worth, those things are far less subject to change over time.

Your personal sense of worth is determined, in part, by how much you like yourself. By seeing not just your weak points but by embracing your strong points. With me, for instance, it would be my intelligence, my boldness, my quick decision making, and my fine sense of fair play. I am working on becoming a kinder, gentler person, so I can like myself even more!

In another post I talked about getting your happiness from your internal you, and you responded with not understanding that concept.

Developing good internal esteem is one of the things you do to have *inner* happiness. That is, happiness that external forces can't take away.








*blinks* it wasnt that I didn't understand your concept....

It was that your response didn't have a context as I saw it. I think you need to reread what I wrote because you are making assumptions based off of the complete opposite of what I said.... or rather trying to explain what I already stated in more simplistic terms(i assume so I can understand it *chuckle*)


On a side note, I now know why I didn't understand where you were coming from in the last message. You formed an emotional response to what I said about being affected by others moods, rather than understanding it separated from your individual sense of what it meant.... its the main reason I have trouble communicating, people form emotional responses to things based on their own experience all the time.

I am not an unhappy person *lopsided grin* as I think most of my personality would have shown... but pfhh humans. What I said about adjusting to others personalities should not be taken in the context of a weak willed little girl that screams and cries "I just want to make you happy" while cutting herself.... as is the apparent image you have gathered.

What I said in a non emotional context refers to a personality trait of mine. I am incredibly adaptable, the more I am around someone the more I become like them. You can say you are unaffected... but I have yet to meet anyone who is and I don't consider it a good thing necessarily. No matter how "inwardly happy" you are I guarantee that being around someone miserable for years would make you miserable.... me I have about three months before I go from bouncy to punching them in the face. Or three days of heavy torture... but that again veers off topic, can't do anymore to try to make that clear other than say... when reading my words I suggest reading them at face value should make more sense.



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RE: do you suffer from Low self-esteem - 8/5/2015 12:11:06 PM   
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No, it is not necessary that a sub or slave have a very low sense of self-worth. I have known both sides of the coin. Though its true that the low-side tends to come up a tad bit more often.

It is sad that you were ill-treated as a child. But I would very gently advise you not to let that continue to drive your life. Seek help. If you were abused as a child it does not mean you do not deserve to be loved, in fact quite the opposite, just to make up for it. Visit a professional, and try to get over the fact that you are a worthless being.

There is nothing wrong about being wanted to be treated as lowly by a dominant or dominatrix. But to strongly believe within yourself that you are not worth someone's affection - that;s just sad, and if it were me I would try to get that cured.

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RE: do you suffer from Low self-esteem - 8/7/2015 7:31:32 AM   
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When I was having a crisis in my life I felt I shouldn't be looking for a partner. Only when I got my life back together again and felt I was strong did I begin to look for that special someone to share my life. It seems to me that if you are insecure and have poor self worth, you have little to offer to another person.

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RE: do you suffer from Low self-esteem - 9/14/2015 5:15:21 AM   
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I came from parents who do not want me due to my gender. So being born unwanted, and basically growing up in environment without love from your blood parents who feels more like evil adoptive parents, does take severe stab at your self worth as a person. I grew up having to fight the personal feeling of, if your own blood mother can't even squeeze out a tinge of love for you, then who can love you? Sure, you can love yourself. But I always find loving myself to be a very lonely affair. Just me and myself, inlove with each other. Frankly, until today, I don't understand it and I don't feel like being lesbian with myself. I prefer to love someone else.

But when I think about why I am submissive and do not identify as a dominant, although my vanilla personnel is very dominant, I do not associate it with my self worth at all.

I think my bestfriend when he met me for the very first time, our first meeting, he said to me, and this is a vanilla guy by the way. He said to me that he thinks I am a very strong and secure woman to be able to be sexually submissive. And that's exactly how I view it too.

I see submission as a form of strength and not weakness. So to OP, Yes you can be confident and secure and be a slave. Infact, the more someone is able to let go of themselves, I think the more confident, comfortable and secure they are being with themselves.

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