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school cheates to raise performance goals - 8/3/2015 9:02:28 PM   
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http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/383184-high-school-seniors-diploma-didnt-deserve-shines-light-failings-educational-system/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Culture

Student want to return diploma after she should have failed her and her counselor said

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Grades are being changed to help the school get a better graduation rate, and that the pressure to change the grades of absent or failing students is coming from the school’s principal. One school record shows a chronic absentee student who was averaging a 45 passing with an 85, simply for doing extra credit.


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RE: school cheates to raise performance goals - 8/4/2015 1:02:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/08/383184-high-school-seniors-diploma-didnt-deserve-shines-light-failings-educational-system/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Owned&utm_term=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Culture
Student want to return diploma after she should have failed her and her counselor said
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Grades are being changed to help the school get a better graduation rate, and that the pressure to change the grades of absent or failing students is coming from the school’s principal. One school record shows a chronic absentee student who was averaging a 45 passing with an 85, simply for doing extra credit.


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    Many politicians, teachers and parents have been concerned that American high school standards have been on the decline since the implementation of Common Core national standards.


What a hatchet job there! This has nothing to do with Common Core standards. There is zero proof (shown) that this hasn't been going on for years.

This is a question of funding. Almost everything comes down to funding. A few years ago, there was a lot of bickering between the Toledo Public School District and the parents. There was a concern that students were going to skip "head count" days, which determines how many students a school is serving, thereby determining how large a chunk (student population wasn't the only factor) of funding the school got from the State. I don't remember what the todo was about, nor how the parents found out which days were "counting" days, but there was a heavy plea from the school district against it.

In this case, this could be about a principal not feeling secure in his/her job, and wanting better measurables to help maintain principalship, or (as implied by the teacher), it's about the school (and district), and could easily be coming from the Superintendent, too.

There is too much pressure on teachers (and schools, in general) to educate our kids and not enough on parents/family to support our kids' educations. That's the bottom line. Schools are no longer places to get an education, but places to get an education, nourishment, parenting, emotional support, etc. Academic performance is strongly linked to parental support and the home environment. Schools are not equipped (and shouldn't be, imo) to overcome a lack of those two things. Teachers work hard to help their students, but are fighting a battle they don't have any chance to win. School Districts are being held accountable to improve things that aren't within it's power to improve.

So, what do we do? The fallback is throw more money at it and either pray that does something this time, or keeps the furor down to a dull roar. In either case, it's still not the school that's failing the student.

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RE: school cheates to raise performance goals - 8/4/2015 4:37:19 AM   
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I personally didn't mention common core. I am much more concerned that a failing student will get a passing grade for apparently doing nothing more than breathing. If budget is an issue, fire the teacher/administrator involved. It is a short term fix until you find a teacher/administrator that is willing to do his job. If a student is incapable of learning, then it isn't the teachers fault, but finding a method to educate the student to meet the whatever standard used based upon that students ability. I believe that most if not all states have laws that require students to attend school. Reactivate the police to deal with those that feel they are above the law and don't have to go. And no, I never ditched school. I was afraid to. My dad was a city employee, my best friends dads were either cops or worked for the telephone company. Odds of getting caught in a town of 19,000 then were to great. When a student is allowed to graduate without a proper education, then (not always) the chances are increased for them to become a drain on our resources instead of enhancing them.

Not going to write a thesis and the damned keys on my keyboard are sticking, but just a few thoughts.

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RE: school cheates to raise performance goals - 8/4/2015 8:52:23 PM   
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I personally didn't mention common core. I am much more concerned that a failing student will get a passing grade for apparently doing nothing more than breathing. If budget is an issue, fire the teacher/administrator involved. It is a short term fix until you find a teacher/administrator that is willing to do his job. If a student is incapable of learning, then it isn't the teachers fault, but finding a method to educate the student to meet the whatever standard used based upon that students ability. I believe that most if not all states have laws that require students to attend school. Reactivate the police to deal with those that feel they are above the law and don't have to go. And no, I never ditched school. I was afraid to. My dad was a city employee, my best friends dads were either cops or worked for the telephone company. Odds of getting caught in a town of 19,000 then were to great. When a student is allowed to graduate without a proper education, then (not always) the chances are increased for them to become a drain on our resources instead of enhancing them.
Not going to write a thesis and the damned keys on my keyboard are sticking, but just a few thoughts.


I do apologize for not making it clear the article was the "hatchet job" and not your post, KD. My Dad was an Asst. Super with a city school district, while we attended a suburban school district. The odds of any of us kids getting in trouble in HS and Dad not finding out about it were just a bit worst than a snowball's chance.


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RE: school cheates to raise performance goals - 8/5/2015 1:18:17 AM   
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Yeah. Life is hell when you can't get away with anything. Look at the kids now. So many feel entitled and can do anything they want without consequences. As for is the article a hatchet job or a reporting of the facts? I have no real proof whatsoever of either. If in fact someone changed her failing grades, then somenoe should pay the price for it. If in fact the student failed, she should not have been allowed to graduate. If she lied, then she should be sued for slander because of the damage done. Will the school go after her? Probably not. Opens them up to way to much and all they can do is hope she goes away.

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RE: school cheates to raise performance goals - 8/5/2015 6:17:36 AM   
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Yeah. Life is hell when you can't get away with anything. Look at the kids now. So many feel entitled and can do anything they want without consequences. As for is the article a hatchet job or a reporting of the facts? I have no real proof whatsoever of either. If in fact someone changed her failing grades, then somenoe should pay the price for it. If in fact the student failed, she should not have been allowed to graduate. If she lied, then she should be sued for slander because of the damage done. Will the school go after her? Probably not. Opens them up to way to much and all they can do is hope she goes away.


The article was a "hatchet job" because it required quite a bit of manipulation in an attempt to link it to CC.

If a kid isn't academically qualified to go on to the next level, that kid shouldn't go on to the next level. If it's all subjective, then that only opens schools up for discrimination claims.


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