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CreativeDominant -> Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 10:10:42 AM)

...The minister then called for violence against police and those who support them. “Stalk them and kill them and let them feel the pain of death that we are feeling,” Farrakhan said.

The establishment media has yet to condemn Farrakhan’s incitement:

http://www.infowars.com/louis-farrakhan-cites-koran-calls-for-10000-to-rise-up-and-kill-those-who-kill-us/





Tkman117 -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 10:14:15 AM)

Seriously? You use infowars as a source? You might as well cite a website called "Conspiracy Theory Central, Where We Don't Believe Anything Anyone Tells Us Except Each Other"




Lucylastic -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 10:49:06 AM)

Oh they've made up have they?
More fool Obama...I would have thought 2011 and since would have been a deal breaker.
Everything I can find since 2011 is the racist religious, nasty ass(farrakhan) not being very nice to his friend...
or maybe its cos "Obama is secretly a moozelem conspiracy."
whatever,
Info wars is the rw loonys (as in loonies who are rw) equivalent to ...."How to breed unicorns for dummies." would be to the left.




bounty44 -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 12:08:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

Seriously? You use infowars as a source? You might as well cite a website called "Conspiracy Theory Central, Where We Don't Believe Anything Anyone Tells Us Except Each Other"


if you werent so pompous, preening, and focused on trying to slam someone who's politics you disagree with you, you might have done a quick internet search for the speaker and a few key words and saw that it is fairly all over the internet in more reputable places. and then you could have also commented on the substance of the article, or answered the OP's question.

that said, while I don't particularly like infowars, what---you think they were just making that all up??

whats more---Farrakhan has been saying nasty stuff like this for quite a while...




CreativeDominant -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 12:10:55 PM)

Since you two don't want to believe a right-wing source, how about the "minister's" own Facebook page?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=845109225596351&id=365178373589441&_rdr

I suppose the words there are not the minister's words. And the video...on his page...that's probably been "heavily edited" to make it appear he's saying that instead of what he's really saying.

Seriously Tkman, that's your focus? That the news came from a right wing source? If it was false that he said it, the mainstream media would have been all over the lie and you know it. So...What about what the man said?




PeonForHer -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 12:16:40 PM)

FR

Hang on, this seems to be kosher. The speech is on YouTube. Unless someone's dubbed the man's voice.

Jeez, the interracial friction that side of the pond keeps reminding me of Spike Lee's 'Do The Right Thing'. Things keep ratcheting up.

This isn't good.




Sanity -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 12:33:18 PM)


If he were white his group would have got the Waco / Ruby Ridge treatment a long time ago




Lucylastic -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 12:34:57 PM)


FR

Ffs i never said the speech wasnt real
I said the part about them still being friends Was debateable.
Which is pointed at the thread title.
Oh and if you missed my opinion of the man......
"RACIST RELIGIOUS NASTY ASS(farrakhan...
Look up at my first post
Try reading for comprehension




PeonForHer -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 12:57:49 PM)

FR

I see forces of Law and Order getting disgruntled; their authority questioned, their belief in their neutrality shaken. They'll be that much more primed to see "attitude". On the other side, I see black people fuming, more and more, and seeing the flip side of such attitude in those forces of Law and Order.

Things look as though they're brewing up to a fine old explosion, to me. God knows how I'd handle it, in Obama's position: but I'll bet that he wants to, perhaps above everything else, before he checks out of the White House.




BamaD -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 1:02:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

I see forces of Law and Order getting disgruntled; their authority questioned, their belief in their neutrality shaken. They'll be that much more primed to see "attitude". On the other side, I see black people fuming, more and more, and seeing the flip side of such attitude in those forces of Law and Order.

Things look as though they're brewing up to a fine old explosion, to me. God knows how I'd handle it, in Obama's position: but I'll bet that he wants to, perhaps above everything else, before he checks out of the White House.

Then he should stop throwing gasoline (petrol) on the fire.




PeonForHer -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 1:21:17 PM)

quote:

Then he should stop throwing gasoline (petrol) on the fire.



Me, in his position, my instinct would be to get the most firebrand of each side together, in the White House. Get them to argue their bollocks off with each other. Get it all out. And then hammer out an agreement whereby they all agree to ratchet *down* the friction, for the sake of easy race-relations. He needs to mix up the Farrakhans with with redneck southern-state bullet-heads.

As President I think you pretty much have to rise above the standard right wing / left wing griefs, as best you can. It's your job, basically. Obama's not a dimwit. I'm sure he'll realise that.




BamaD -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 3:03:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

Then he should stop throwing gasoline (petrol) on the fire.



Me, in his position, my instinct would be to get the most firebrand of each side together, in the White House. Get them to argue their bollocks off with each other. Get it all out. And then hammer out an agreement whereby they all agree to ratchet *down* the friction, for the sake of easy race-relations. He needs to mix up the Farrakhans with with redneck southern-state bullet-heads.

As President I think you pretty much have to rise above the standard right wing / left wing griefs, as best you can. It's your job, basically. Obama's not a dimwit. I'm sure he'll realise that.

So many problems with this post.
A Obama always assumes the whites are wrong
B Obama always assumes the police are wrong
C Radicals on both sides want to increase the level of racial tension so that would simply give both a platform to spread their hate
D Only reasonable people can ease tensions and you want to give the floor to the haters
E Of course Obama can see this, the question is does he really want to ease tension. The more tension, the more black votes Dems get.




Sanity -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 3:33:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

So many problems with this post.
A Obama always assumes the whites are wrong
B Obama always assumes the police are wrong
C Radicals on both sides want to increase the level of racial tension so that would simply give both a platform to spread their hate
D Only reasonable people can ease tensions and you want to give the floor to the haters
E Of course Obama can see this, the question is does he really want to ease tension. The more tension, the more black votes Dems get.


It doesnt matter if more cities burn, white folks get ripped out of their cars and assaulted for being white. How much the rage grows...

As long as Democrats get their power




PeonForHer -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 3:40:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

Then he should stop throwing gasoline (petrol) on the fire.



Me, in his position, my instinct would be to get the most firebrand of each side together, in the White House. Get them to argue their bollocks off with each other. Get it all out. And then hammer out an agreement whereby they all agree to ratchet *down* the friction, for the sake of easy race-relations. He needs to mix up the Farrakhans with with redneck southern-state bullet-heads.

As President I think you pretty much have to rise above the standard right wing / left wing griefs, as best you can. It's your job, basically. Obama's not a dimwit. I'm sure he'll realise that.

So many problems with this post.
A Obama always assumes the whites are wrong
B Obama always assumes the police are wrong
C Radicals on both sides want to increase the level of racial tension so that would simply give both a platform to spread their hate
D Only reasonable people can ease tensions and you want to give the floor to the haters
E Of course Obama can see this, the question is does he really want to ease tension. The more tension, the more black votes Dems get.


Well, you're no doubt more aware than I am that a) a large chunk of whites will always assume that it's the blacks who are to blame while b) a large chunk of blacks will always assume it's the whites who are to blame. It's the intransigents amongst both groups who need to be talked to. The 'reasonables' on both sides aren't the problem.




dcnovice -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 3:45:06 PM)

FR

Anyone have any examples of the President's taking and following Farrakhan's advice?




Lucylastic -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 4:06:17 PM)

Exactly.




BamaD -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/5/2015 5:06:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

Then he should stop throwing gasoline (petrol) on the fire.



Me, in his position, my instinct would be to get the most firebrand of each side together, in the White House. Get them to argue their bollocks off with each other. Get it all out. And then hammer out an agreement whereby they all agree to ratchet *down* the friction, for the sake of easy race-relations. He needs to mix up the Farrakhans with with redneck southern-state bullet-heads.

As President I think you pretty much have to rise above the standard right wing / left wing griefs, as best you can. It's your job, basically. Obama's not a dimwit. I'm sure he'll realise that.

So many problems with this post.
A Obama always assumes the whites are wrong
B Obama always assumes the police are wrong
C Radicals on both sides want to increase the level of racial tension so that would simply give both a platform to spread their hate
D Only reasonable people can ease tensions and you want to give the floor to the haters
E Of course Obama can see this, the question is does he really want to ease tension. The more tension, the more black votes Dems get.


Well, you're no doubt more aware than I am that a) a large chunk of whites will always assume that it's the blacks who are to blame while b) a large chunk of blacks will always assume it's the whites who are to blame. It's the intransigents amongst both groups who need to be talked to. The 'reasonables' on both sides aren't the problem.

Yes there are both black and white racists, but those you are talking about aren't president.
It is the reasonable people who will make progress, the more importance put on the nuts on either side the more they will push their agendas.
The reasonable people need to be put front and center, instead we get Sharpton and Jackson both of whom profit from racial strife.




joether -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/6/2015 2:22:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Info wars is the rw loonys (as in loonies who are rw) equivalent to ...."How to breed unicorns for dummies." would be to the left.


Hey dont mock my pet unicorn. Just because I can't see her, doesn't mean she doesnt exist. Do you know what unicorns feed on? That's right, you dont! Because you dont have the book, do ya!

They feed on the tears of sorrow of Republicans and Tea Parties after every defeat in the elections. The higher up in power, the more delicious it is.....





joether -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/6/2015 2:40:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

Then he should stop throwing gasoline (petrol) on the fire.



Me, in his position, my instinct would be to get the most firebrand of each side together, in the White House. Get them to argue their bollocks off with each other. Get it all out. And then hammer out an agreement whereby they all agree to ratchet *down* the friction, for the sake of easy race-relations. He needs to mix up the Farrakhans with with redneck southern-state bullet-heads.

As President I think you pretty much have to rise above the standard right wing / left wing griefs, as best you can. It's your job, basically. Obama's not a dimwit. I'm sure he'll realise that.

So many problems with this post.
A Obama always assumes the whites are wrong
B Obama always assumes the police are wrong
C Radicals on both sides want to increase the level of racial tension so that would simply give both a platform to spread their hate
D Only reasonable people can ease tensions and you want to give the floor to the haters
E Of course Obama can see this, the question is does he really want to ease tension. The more tension, the more black votes Dems get.


A. That's not even remotely true. Only the heir to the kingdom of idiots would arrive at this notion given all the evidence against it.
B . See the previous answer....
C. Radicals on the right want to increase tensions towards all minority groups. Those on the left are kept under a short leash and muzzle. Your side doesn't do a good job because you do not keep your radicals locked up and gagged!
D. Which political side do the following haters seem to vote:
1. The Klan?
2. Neo Nazi?
3. Militia Man Movement?
4. Soveriegn Citizens?
5. Birthers?
6. Truthers?
7. 'Low Information Voters'
8. FOX 'news' watchers

As none of these groups of people seem to be voting Democrat, nor voted for Obama in either election. They all voted Republican and Tea Party. Your 'side' of the political spectrum seems to have the monopoly on hatred, intolerance, and fear. Or are you going to argue that FOX 'news', The Drudge Report, and Stormfront put everything into politically-neutral grounds for information purposes?

E. If what your stating is true, then it would be fair to state the GOP/TP wants to increase tensions on whites in the hopes more will vote them into office. This is fortunately, not true. Racial tensions have been a constant struggle in this nation. Long before the 'change' in political viewpoints. Back in the 90's, the Republican Party was all about innovation, capitalism and small business development. Now adays, its without a real platform or clue, but they are all strictly uniformed in their ideology. Which is to say the party was once fairly liberal and then became semi-theoretically conservative. The Democrats were rather conservative until Mr. Clinton's second term. Which is why DOMA pass then, but wouldn't have a prayer of doing so in 2015 by a Democrat.





BamaD -> RE: Why Does Obama Go To This Man For Advice? (8/6/2015 10:06:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

Then he should stop throwing gasoline (petrol) on the fire.



Me, in his position, my instinct would be to get the most firebrand of each side together, in the White House. Get them to argue their bollocks off with each other. Get it all out. And then hammer out an agreement whereby they all agree to ratchet *down* the friction, for the sake of easy race-relations. He needs to mix up the Farrakhans with with redneck southern-state bullet-heads.

As President I think you pretty much have to rise above the standard right wing / left wing griefs, as best you can. It's your job, basically. Obama's not a dimwit. I'm sure he'll realise that.

So many problems with this post.
A Obama always assumes the whites are wrong
B Obama always assumes the police are wrong
C Radicals on both sides want to increase the level of racial tension so that would simply give both a platform to spread their hate
D Only reasonable people can ease tensions and you want to give the floor to the haters
E Of course Obama can see this, the question is does he really want to ease tension. The more tension, the more black votes Dems get.


A. That's not even remotely true. Only the heir to the kingdom of idiots would arrive at this notion given all the evidence against it.
B . See the previous answer....
C. Radicals on the right want to increase tensions towards all minority groups. Those on the left are kept under a short leash and muzzle. Your side doesn't do a good job because you do not keep your radicals locked up and gagged!
D. Which political side do the following haters seem to vote:
1. The Klan?
2. Neo Nazi?
3. Militia Man Movement?
4. Soveriegn Citizens?
5. Birthers?
6. Truthers?
7. 'Low Information Voters'
8. FOX 'news' watchers

As none of these groups of people seem to be voting Democrat, nor voted for Obama in either election. They all voted Republican and Tea Party. Your 'side' of the political spectrum seems to have the monopoly on hatred, intolerance, and fear. Or are you going to argue that FOX 'news', The Drudge Report, and Stormfront put everything into politically-neutral grounds for information purposes?

E. If what your stating is true, then it would be fair to state the GOP/TP wants to increase tensions on whites in the hopes more will vote them into office. This is fortunately, not true. Racial tensions have been a constant struggle in this nation. Long before the 'change' in political viewpoints. Back in the 90's, the Republican Party was all about innovation, capitalism and small business development. Now adays, its without a real platform or clue, but they are all strictly uniformed in their ideology. Which is to say the party was once fairly liberal and then became semi-theoretically conservative. The Democrats were rather conservative until Mr. Clinton's second term. Which is why DOMA pass then, but wouldn't have a prayer of doing so in 2015 by a Democrat.



This entire post is the kind of BS that only a left wing Kool aid drinker would post.
Which right wing group burned Ferguson and Baltimore?
Looks like my son
Declared Wilson guilty before having the facts when it turned out to be exactly the opposite.
Inserted himself in the college professors case and turned out the cops again were right, never admitted any of these mistakes.




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