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sweetieDA -> RE: Where the REAL finsubs and SDs at?? (10/4/2015 2:31:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: sweetieDA

There's no such thing as a real finsub.

No submissive wants to give a Dom/me money for nothing.

No submissive wants to pay to be dominated.

They don't know you, they don't like you. Stop trying to leach off them.


So, I have this young man strongly pursuing me, who keeps asking to do my chores, rub my feet, and pay me.

Because as he puts it, "I like giving a dominant my money."

I told him, "I'm not a pro. I do what I do if I like you."

He says, "If you like me, can I pay you? Or take you shopping. I can take you shopping and pay."

So, yeah. Some submissives want to pay to be dominated.


Let me clarify my meaning.

Are there submissives who pay for Dommes? Yes. Are there submissives who enjoy paying for Dommes when they like that Domme and they like activities, conversations and other things they do with and for that Domme? Yes.

But are there submissives whose only fetish is to find a completely unknown person online and give them money, with no other interaction or hope of interaction? i.e. an actual sexual fetish for handing over money in a completely depersonalised way?

No, I don't believe that there are. And in 14 years on the scene, I have never met one, heard of one or seen one. Which is why I say such a person is a myth.

Now, to continue qualifying - there are a great many people who will pay a Domme a tribute *in the hope of getting to know her better*. But that is not a finsub, since their real motivation is not handing over cash but establishing a relationship of some sort.

There are also a great many people who enjoy pleasing a particular Dom/me with cash or gifts - I am one of them. I give all my money to my Master and he decides how it is spent. But my real motivation and point of pleasure is not the handing over of cash, it is the wider M/s relationship, feelings of control, trust, etc.

In the example you gave, you describe a submissive with a range of interests - perhaps some foot fetishism, going shopping with you, he wants you to like him, etc. I'm no expert and I don't know this person, but it would seem to me that this is someone who enjoys pleasing a particular person that he knows and that form of pleasing includes giving money. But it is not the giving of money that excites him per se, it is the pleasing you and being generally submissive around you that he most enjoys. If your interaction was limited to an impersonal message when he sent cash, I very much doubt that he would want to do it.

I would define a finsub as a person with a sexual preference for giving money to a Dominant. A person who gets sexual arousal from such an activity and, in the technical sense of a fetish, a person who needs such interaction in order to achieve sexual satisfaction.

If you have a different definition, then by all means elaborate for the purposes of illumination on the subject.







LadyPact -> RE: Where the REAL finsubs and SDs at?? (10/4/2015 2:59:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sweetieDA


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetieDA

There's no such thing as a real finsub.

No submissive wants to give a Dom/me money for nothing.

No submissive wants to pay to be dominated.

They don't know you, they don't like you. Stop trying to leach off them.


So, I have this young man strongly pursuing me, who keeps asking to do my chores, rub my feet, and pay me.

Because as he puts it, "I like giving a dominant my money."

I told him, "I'm not a pro. I do what I do if I like you."

He says, "If you like me, can I pay you? Or take you shopping. I can take you shopping and pay."

So, yeah. Some submissives want to pay to be dominated.


Let me clarify my meaning.

Are there submissives who pay for Dommes? Yes. Are there submissives who enjoy paying for Dommes when they like that Domme and they like activities, conversations and other things they do with and for that Domme? Yes.

But are there submissives whose only fetish is to find a completely unknown person online and give them money, with no other interaction or hope of interaction? i.e. an actual sexual fetish for handing over money in a completely depersonalised way?

No, I don't believe that there are. And in 14 years on the scene, I have never met one, heard of one or seen one. Which is why I say such a person is a myth.

Now, to continue qualifying - there are a great many people who will pay a Domme a tribute *in the hope of getting to know her better*. But that is not a finsub, since their real motivation is not handing over cash but establishing a relationship of some sort.

There are also a great many people who enjoy pleasing a particular Dom/me with cash or gifts - I am one of them. I give all my money to my Master and he decides how it is spent. But my real motivation and point of pleasure is not the handing over of cash, it is the wider M/s relationship, feelings of control, trust, etc.

In the example you gave, you describe a submissive with a range of interests - perhaps some foot fetishism, going shopping with you, he wants you to like him, etc. I'm no expert and I don't know this person, but it would seem to me that this is someone who enjoys pleasing a particular person that he knows and that form of pleasing includes giving money. But it is not the giving of money that excites him per se, it is the pleasing you and being generally submissive around you that he most enjoys. If your interaction was limited to an impersonal message when he sent cash, I very much doubt that he would want to do it.

I would define a finsub as a person with a sexual preference for giving money to a Dominant. A person who gets sexual arousal from such an activity and, in the technical sense of a fetish, a person who needs such interaction in order to achieve sexual satisfaction.

If you have a different definition, then by all means elaborate for the purposes of illumination on the subject.

Sorry for the multiple quotes. I did it for context.

I can assure you that I have met, in person, folks from the /s side of the slash who absolutely do have this fetish. I don't know if I would say "need" regarding it. I would say prefer. I can also attest to the fact that he got... Ummmm... Excited just talking about it.

Real sweetheart of a guy. He'd have lined every step she walked with hundred dollar bills under her feet if he had the ability. All he wanted was the pleasure of buying her things and giving her money to make her smile. It would put him on cloud nine.





sweetieDA -> RE: Where the REAL finsubs and SDs at?? (10/4/2015 8:04:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
All he wanted was the pleasure of buying her things and giving her money to make her smile.



But was it the giving of money or the making her smile that got them excited?

I know a lot of subs who get excited by making a Dom/me smile, but that's not the same as having a fetish for giving people money, ne c'est pas?

It's like this - I like pain. I get off on pain no matter who it comes from (in a BDSM context). This, to me, means that I have a fetish for pain. But when it comes to service, I only get off on it if I like the person I'm submitting to. This is because I'm not really into service, I just like pleasing some people.

So if he got off on giving *anyone* money, then he clearly has a fetish for that. But if he only got off on giving money to her, because he liked her, then surely that falls under what we would ordinarily call submission?




LadyPact -> RE: Where the REAL finsubs and SDs at?? (10/4/2015 8:34:06 AM)

It was the giving of money. He picked her as an individual but if she wouldn't have been into that kink, it would have been someone else.

Trust me. I'm feelin' ya. I've met others since then but before I met this first one, I'd have never bought this stuff. In my opinion, it was his kink.




slavemali -> RE: Where the REAL finsubs and SDs at?? (10/9/2015 1:45:59 PM)

I think it is suckers, but back to why this personnel add is in a reply.... Look real close at my avitar my service to you has no wallet or purse.... certainly have no pockets to hold them...




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