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MercTech -> Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/23/2015 8:16:03 AM)
A case coming before the Supreme Court is to consider the question of whether stun devices have second amendment protections. The odd thing I noticed was that when the Washington Post reported the story; they used a picture of a firearm (a taser - yes they are classed a firearm) instead of a pocket stunner as many other media outlets. Hmm, clueless journalists or intentional FUD sowing? Wawshington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/08/11/are-stun-guns-protected-by-the-second-amendment/ ArsTechnica Article http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/you-have-the-right-to-bear-arms-but-what-about-electrical-arms-or-stun-guns/ The classification of stunners itself deserves some discussion but the glaring difference in the Washington Post using a picture of a firearm (tasers use gunpowder to propel wire attached needles) over an article about stunners (hand held shock devices) just jumped out at me.

BamaD -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/23/2015 11:09:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech A case coming before the Supreme Court is to consider the question of whether stun devices have second amendment protections. The odd thing I noticed was that when the Washington Post reported the story; they used a picture of a firearm (a taser - yes they are classed a firearm) instead of a pocket stunner as many other media outlets. Hmm, clueless journalists or intentional FUD sowing? Wawshington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/08/11/are-stun-guns-protected-by-the-second-amendment/ ArsTechnica Article http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/you-have-the-right-to-bear-arms-but-what-about-electrical-arms-or-stun-guns/ The classification of stunners itself deserves some discussion but the glaring difference in the Washington Post using a picture of a firearm (tasers use gunpowder to propel wire attached needles) over an article about stunners (hand held shock devices) just jumped out at me. The press is often ignorant about the things they cover, it is just that as a general rule they are more ignorant about firearms than most other subjects so it is easier to catch them in the mistakes.

MrRodgers -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/23/2015 12:39:40 PM)
Two different things. A stunner is for close range and requires contact, a taser can be used for short range or shoots up to 15 feet and is thus...a firearm. HERE

stef -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/23/2015 11:41:16 PM)
Knowledge about the subject they're covering is not a requirement for journalists. These were made as a joke but they're not very far off from what gets reported these days. [image]http://www.pagunblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MediaGuidetoFirearms.jpg[/image] [image]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sK4XW4F9qWA/UBKm7z7OYzI/AAAAAAAAChk/TymUV8uJo0M/s640/journalists-guide-to-firearms-identification.jpg[/image]

BamaD -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/24/2015 10:09:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef Knowledge about the subject they're covering is not a requirement for journalists. These were made as a joke but they're not very far off from what gets reported these days. [image]http://www.pagunblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MediaGuidetoFirearms.jpg[/image] [image]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sK4XW4F9qWA/UBKm 7z7OYzI/AAAAAAAAChk/TymUV8uJo0M/s640/journalists-guide-to-firearms-identification.jpg[/image] Actually I have seen worse reporting, and not just recently. When I was based in Ca in the 70's I saw a piece on the theory that they found both .38 and .22 slugs after the Bobbie Kennedy killing. The press was upset because while they showed them all the slugs, they wouldn't tell them if some were .38s. They showed the slugs, all were clearly the same caliber.

tj444 -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/24/2015 10:36:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech A case coming before the Supreme Court is to consider the question of whether stun devices have second amendment protections. The odd thing I noticed was that when the Washington Post reported the story; they used a picture of a firearm (a taser - yes they are classed a firearm) instead of a pocket stunner as many other media outlets. Hmm, clueless journalists or intentional FUD sowing? Wawshington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/08/11/are-stun-guns-protected-by-the-second-amendment/ ArsTechnica Article http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/you-have-the-right-to-bear-arms-but-what-about-electrical-arms-or-stun-guns/ The classification of stunners itself deserves some discussion but the glaring difference in the Washington Post using a picture of a firearm (tasers use gunpowder to propel wire attached needles) over an article about stunners (hand held shock devices) just jumped out at me. I think you give them more credit than most of them deserve.. few are real Journalists in todays news world... people have to learn that just cuz its called "news" or appears in a newspaper doesnt mean that the "news" is accurate at all.. you need to read these stories with many grains of salt..

joether -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/24/2015 10:50:56 AM)
Should check out video games, if you want to see just how clueless mainstream media is at news reporting. Years ago, when 'Mass Effect' was released, FOX 'news' had problems with just one place in the game's story line: the 'sex scene'. Spoilers.... Yes, there is the hints of having sex but no actual sex is observed. There is kissing and hugging, which is no different from soap operas during the day. And that scene comes once 95% of the game has been executed. The 'journalist' could not understand how computer games could tell a story. The game 'Half Life' told a story about some guy being late to work one fateful day.... Even in bdsm, mainstream journalists get things wrongs. The problem is two fold: A ) Journalists are not as informed on subject material as they once were demanded of (by their employers and the public) B ) The public has been dumb down below a 8th grader's understanding and maturity level. Those two have to be improved upon if 'we the people' are to get a better source of information. Yet, we have that better source of information: NPR. Its dull, its boring, its like watching grass grow. But it does produce much in the way of good journalism that is rich with details; for an audience whose educational level is above a 10th grader's. Since it is not heavily polluted with political agendas and bullshit; most conservatives and libertarians do not watch it. In fact they often hate it, since it forces them to use that lump three feet above their heads for something besides a paper weight!

CreativeDominant -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/24/2015 12:18:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether Yet, we have that better source of information: NPR. Its dull, its boring, its like watching grass grow. But it does produce much in the way of good journalism that is rich with details; for an audience whose educational level is above a 10th grader's. Since it is not heavily polluted with political agendas and bullshit; most conservatives and libertarians do not watch it. In fact they often hate it, since it forces them to use that lump three feet above their heads for something besides a paper weight! You're kidding, right? http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/03/22/science-settles-it-nprs-liberal-but-not-very/ NPR Admits It's Packed With Liberals by Mike Gonzalez http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/03/16/earth-tax-dollars-npr.html http://bernardgoldberg.com/no-liberal-bias-at-npr-just-ask-npr/ http://www.cjr.org/news_meeting/does_npr_have_a_liberal_bias.php

Kirata -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/24/2015 12:25:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: joether Since it is not heavily polluted with political agendas and bullshit; most conservatives and libertarians do not watch it. You're kidding, right? NPR Sucks K.

BamaD -> RE: Some Jouranlists aren't sure what they are writing about.. yes, kind of a gun thread. (8/24/2015 12:44:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: joether Yet, we have that better source of information: NPR. Its dull, its boring, its like watching grass grow. But it does produce much in the way of good journalism that is rich with details; for an audience whose educational level is above a 10th grader's. Since it is not heavily polluted with political agendas and bullshit; most conservatives and libertarians do not watch it. In fact they often hate it, since it forces them to use that lump three feet above their heads for something besides a paper weight! You're kidding, right? http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/03/22/science-settles-it-nprs-liberal-but-not-very/ NPR Admits It's Packed With Liberals by Mike Gonzalez http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/03/16/earth-tax-dollars-npr.html http://bernardgoldberg.com/no-liberal-bias-at-npr-just-ask-npr/ http://www.cjr.org/news_meeting/does_npr_have_a_liberal_bias.php Not loaded with political agendas = they have the same political agenda he does.

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