joether
Posts: 5195
Joined: 7/24/2005
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: KenDckey
http://www.thirdway.org/memo/americans-views-of-the-aca-quarter-1-2015-update
Don't you hate it? I do. I believe Americans SHOULD have healthcare. I don't believe it should be mandated. It isn't governments business in my opinion.
Reading the article and understanding the article are two different things. Most people can read the Wall Street Journal. Not many people understand HOW its put together or operates. That's what separates the amateur hour guys from the Certified Financial Planners (CFP).
" Only 5% of Americans expect less Affordable Care Act (ACA) debate, 47% expect more, and 42% said it will be about the same."
Who are the 5%? Who makes up the 47% and 42%? What are their views on healthcare? What are their motivations?
That's from the views of 1,501 people. Is 1,501 = 312,000,000+ people in the United States? One could make an argument in both directions on whether that 1,501 is correct. But then your walking into a political agenda rather than 'straight up honest information'.
I would like to see improvements into the ACA. I read the document. I've been observing how the legal code interacts with reality. What sounded 'great' on paper, has some 'problems' in reality. It would take time and effort for me to explain not just the legal code, but how it has been operating in the real world; for you to understand what I'm suggesting as an improvement. While I would be in that 47% number, I would be in another group all together: The informed crowd.
There are people in the 47% and 42% number that know absolutely....SHIT NOTHING....about the ACA. The support/oppose over political grounds. They like President Obama, therefore they should like the ACA. Or, they hate President Obama, and oppose a law that actual helps them long term.
"Public opinion has remained relatively stable on the overall favorability of the law, with 41% having a favorable view of the ACA compared to 46% with an unfavorable view."
I have a question to ask those 1,505 adults: Did you READ and UNDERSTAND the whole of the ACA to form your opinion?
I'll take the educated guess that number is between zero and one percent. What does that tell you of the rest with regards to the law?
"However, there are wide partisan differences—69% of Democrats have a favorable view and 79% of Republicans have an unfavorable one."
Go figure. Who created the ACA? The Democrats. Who opposed it? The Republicans.
"There is also broad support for other sections of the ACA (e.g., contraception, 26 age limit for dependents, preexisting conditions)—although many voters are unaware that they are included in the health care law."
That's what happens when your uninformed of the law; you miss out on the good stuff! It is like asking those same group of 1,505 adults "Do you know what is in the 5th amendment?" The grand majority would say 'no'. Then ask "Is it important to have?". 'Yes' would be the majority answer. They want it, but are uniformed on what they have until they lose it. Then they are bullshit that government took something away. An it wasn't the government that took it away, but it was the people, whom elected people, to take the power away.
"When asked about the impact on their own lives, only 16% of Americans say the health care law has helped them or their family directly, with another 24% saying it has hurt them. But an overwhelming 59% say the law has had no direct impact on their or their family’s lives."
That's right, 59% of the 1,501 adults have no clue how it has effected them and their families. Being uninformed is not the same as 'not existing'. The law effected....ALL persons....within the United States of America. How it effected them is a different discussion all together. But it has allowed up to 20-40 million Americans to have access to healthcare that they did not have before the law's introduction.
"Forty-three percent think the law allows undocumented immigrants to receive government financial assistance to buy insurance."
An there are 43% of respondents that didn't read the law. Because if they had, they would know the ACA applies ONLY to US Citizens. That is why we do not force tourists from other nations to buy a plan when they arrive at an international airport. Nor "Mr. Illegal Immigrant, do you have healthcare? Because if you don't, we'll ship you back to your home nation". The law is very clear. The people pushing this bullshit have been misinformed. Intentionally (i.e. conservative media like FOX 'news') or unintentionally (i.e. Heard from a friend of a friend who said it was true).
Let me state it for a third time, just so it's understood: The ACA effects ONLY US Citizens. That others in the nation benefit from the systems being changed is a by-product. Meaning a foreign exchange student with a legal visa going to the ER does not have to wait to long in the waiting room to see a doctor like before.
"And 41% say it establishes a government panel to make decisions about end-of-life care for Medicare beneficiaries."
Yes, 41% of 1,505 adults that are clueless. Most likely conservatives and libertarians whom 'bought into' the idea from the likes of Sarah Palin and others on 'death panels'. The ACA does not talk about this concept through the whole of the document. There are no death panels. In fact, it doesn't talk about patient services in specific terms with regards to 'end of life'. That is left up to the patient, their family, and their doctor (the spirit of the law as written by the authors).
"Americans support the employer mandate, with 60% favorable to the provision and 38% unfavorable.7 However, these initial inclinations are soft. When those supportive of the mandate are told that some employers are moving employees from full to part time work to avoid paying the fine, net unfavorability rises to 68% (there is a 30 point shift from those initially favorable). On the flip side, when those initially unsupportive are told that most employers with 100+ employees already offer insurance and won’t have to pay the fine, net favorability rises to 76% (there is a 16 point shift from those initially unfavorable)."
What we have here is the observation of 'media's effects on the individual minds of US Citizens'. Some media groups in the nation like to push fear *cough*DRUDGEREPORT*cough*. While others give the actual information. Yes, some employers cut people from full time to part time. This was unethical practice. To which they 'hide' their real intentions by stating its due to the law and NOT, to have more profit for shareholders/stakeholders. Or are any of you going to argue to me that Wal-Mart employees are making enough at 40 hours to live above the federal poverty line without assistance?
Its just games and lies by conservatives and libertarian organizations and media in this nation. How many of those whom support the employer mandate but unfavorable of full time jobs turning part time, could define the actual law requirements? ZERO PERCENTAGE.
The flip side are those whom were against the law until they found most of the 100+ employee companies already give healthcare insurance; knowing that before hand? ZERO PERCENTAGE.
So we have a major portion of the 1,505 adults whom are 100% uninformed of the details of the law's specifics. That should worry.....anyone....regardless if they are in favor or not of the ACA. What happens when a law is passed that is not good for 95% of Americans, but is good for the 1%? That 1% has resources to convince most of the 95% that the law's passage, really does help them (but doesn't).
"December 2014 Kaiser Survey: 24% want to expand what the law does, 21% want to implement the law as is, 12% want to scale back what the law does, and 31% want to repeal the law entirely. Only 27% of Independents want to repeal the law.9
January 2015 CBS Survey: 11% say keep it as is, 54% think changes are needed, and 32% want to repeal it entirely. More than half (54%) of Independents and 68% of Democrats say changes are needed, while 63% of Republicans want it repealed entirely.10"
What happened between these two dates?
A ) More Americans started to access healthcare through state and federal exchanges. Finding that little to no noticeable changes that effected them in a negative manner had taken place due to the law's passage.
B ) That GOP/TP and their minions grew more and more aggressive, obstructive, and obnoxious to the date when Americans would access healthcare through the online portals. Stating everything from 'God will punish those who take the ACA' to 'President Obama is a tyrant'. Of course the first two months, the online system had problems of its own. The company task to create the portal pretty much had a failed start (anyone that places MMO's knows this sensation). During that time many in the nation and on this here boards, made fun of it, and tried to say that the 9 million goal of users would never be reached (hence the whole thing would fail). Funny that none of those people say such right now? Since we are well over twice the 9 million needed for things to work right now!
C ) As Americans started using their healthcare, they would learn here and there the limits of the law. They would even contact their representatives and senators to request/demand additional concepts be added to the ACA. Which is a boon for Democrats and a reminder to Republican/Tea Party of their failures.
Go figure, when US Citizens gain access to a new freedom, they want to use it in many ways. There will be limits that can not or will not be breached for any number of reasons.
To end this, I would agree to most of the recommendations listed. Democrats now have a strong position on healthcare like Republicans had on foreign policy under President Reagan and G. W. H. Bush administrations.
I have not read the fifteen policy ideas this organization, Third Way, suggests to give any thoughts/insight. Much less agree/disagree to them.
< Message edited by joether -- 8/26/2015 2:19:36 PM >
|
ACA still viewed as unfavorable overall - 
Profile
.gif){kind=avatar}
New Messages
No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages
Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages
Locked w/o New Messages
Post New Thread