tj444
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Some sources go as low as $3+ billion per year to keep the (3x20 years is $21B) so it is cheaper
Some sources go as high as this
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/05/the-fiscal-cost-of-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayer
LOL.. oh come on.. let's talk reality here.. when the govt does anything, how often do costs actually come in cheaper??? when it comes to govt, take the highest estimate and double or triple it! you still are probably underestimating it..
Good 'old knee jerk reaction there...
As odd as it might sound, government does a decent job at controlling costs. Yes there are oddities in the budget from time to time that raise eyebrows. If you want to see government being cheap, check out healthcare to US Citizens. Particularly in the VA system....
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Want an example of that? take the Iraq war..
"The most recent major report on these costs come from Brown University in the form of the Costs of War, which totaled just over $1.1 trillion. The Department of Defense's direct spending on Iraq totaled at least $757.8 billion, but also highlighting the complementary costs at home, such as interest paid on the funds borrowed to finance the wars.
Those figures are dramatically higher than typical estimates published just prior to the start of the Iraq War, many of which were based on a shorter term of involvement. For example, in a March 16, 2003 Meet the Press interview of Vice President Dick Cheney, held less than a week before the Iraq War began, host Tim Russert reported that "every analysis said this war itself would cost about $80 billion, recovery of Baghdad, perhaps of Iraq, about $10 billion per year. We should expect as American citizens that this would cost at least $100 billion for a two-year involvement.""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_cost_of_the_Iraq_War
When you calculate in the long term problems from that war. That would be militiary actions the United States has to make for the next twenty to thirty years, plus caring for all the wounded soldiers; that number is closer to $4 trillion.
....Of borrowed money.....
That's right the whole war was financed with borrowed money rather than tax payer dollars. All that money went straight into the national Debt. The $1.1 Trillion as you stated, and the other three trillion 'over the long haul'.
Ironically enough the G. W. Bush administration was 'hired' thanks to a sizable number of 'fiscal conservatives'. These same 'fiscal conservatives' looked the other way during the Republican process of 'Starve the Beast'. The amount of money the GOP/TP have cost this nation in the last twenty years, *EASILY* dwarfs all the costs with illegal immigration for the next fifty years.....
So if conservatives are so bitchy about the financial cost of illegal immigrants; perhaps they should look at the people they support and vote into public office. Those folks are costing them much more!
Dude, the govt may be able to control costs on very short term minor items but when it comes to long term projects (like the Iraq war) and building 2000 mile walls and deporting 11.2 million people over 20 years, you have to be very naive to think the budget wont get blowed up real good... 
eta- y'all seem to be ignoring the reduction in "the GDP by 6% and real GDP would decline by $1.6 trillion" if/when the 11.2 million people are deported.. I guess y'all consider that chicken feed or something..
< Message edited by tj444 -- 8/28/2015 2:11:51 PM >
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