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respectmen -> How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 12:29:22 AM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPETpCVrH9Y

How some successful feminists blame men for their own making.

If men aren't needed anymore, what's the point of aiming high to support families?




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 2:45:08 AM)

When are you going to stop preaching your own brand of puerile self pity??

{sigh} Such a waste of space. [sm=binky.gif]




tweakabelle -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 2:49:55 AM)

He is not getting all the attention he thinks he deserves, or perhaps he feels is his due by right of possessing a few extra ounces of flesh in the plumbing department.

The obvious solution is throw a hissy fit and blame feminism. I mean that is sooooo obvious it doesn't require further explication does it? If it does, I am sure respectmen's therapist will be happy to explain it to him.

Personally, I can't be bothered.




Lucylastic -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 4:30:40 AM)

http://news.nationalpost.com/toronto/online-posts-about-killing-feminists-prompt-university-of-toronto-to-increase-campus-security

The University of Toronto has increased campus security after allegedly receiving reports of a series of anonymous web comments urging readers to kill “feminists.”

“We have increased campus police presence on our three campuses, and we are monitoring the situation closely,” said university provost Cheryl Regehr writing in an email to students and staff.

In the letter, Regehr says the university was the target of “anonymous threats made on a public blog,” but provides no details.

However, a later statement by CUPE 3902, the union representing University of Toronto academic staff, said the posts “were gendered threats made specifically toward women and feminists.”

We can also add that the threats specifically encourage violence and target our members in their workplaces,” it reads. “Specifically mentioned are those working in Sociology and Women’s Studies classrooms.”

According to a Reddit forum used by University of Toronto students, the threats in question originated in the comments sections of several BlogTO articles.

On September 5 a user named “Kill Feminists” is said to have posted at least similarly worded comments encouraging readers to rent a gun from a “gang” and use it to stage a mass-shooting inside a women’s studies classroom.

“Next week when a feminist at the University of Toronto tries to ruin your life with false sex rape allegations, rent a gun from a gang and start firing bullets into these feminists at your nearest Women’s Studies classroom,” reads one recorded in a September 5 screen capture by Twitter user Carly Stuart, who also reported the post to Toronto Police.

https://twitter.com/StuartCarly/status/640310593321222144/photo/1

Another comment captured on the same day by a Reddit user reads “go into the nearest Sociology or Womens Studies classroom next week, and fire bullets into the Professor’s head and spray bullets all over the room until all the feminists are dead.”

The comments have since been deleted. Representatives for BlogTO could not be reached before press time.

The posts are particularly troubling due to their ideological similarity to those of Marc Lépine, the perpetrator of the 1989 Montreal Massacre.

Motivated by the delusional belief that “feminists” had ruined his life, Lépine murdered 14 women at the École Polytechnique engineering school in Montreal.

“We are following the advice and direction of Toronto Police Services with respect to their expert assessment of safety on campus,” read Regehr’s letter, which encouraged staff and students to “report any suspicious activity.”

CUPE 3902, meanwhile, told members that they have “the legal right to refuse unsafe work.”

“You do not have to enter a work situation in which you have reason to believe your safety or the safety of others may be at risk,” read the Thursday statement from the union.




dreamlady -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 5:29:53 AM)

I decided to take your OP seriously, after seeing what that link was about. I have heard Sargon before, and every so often he does have a few valid points to make. We all need to be needed, and it isn't confined to just men. The majority of caregivers are still women, and women need to be needed just as much. So even if the message you are hearing from any disgruntled group of whatever admixture is that women don't need men anymore, I can tell you right now that we have no use for needy, greedy, selfish little cock-centric fuckwits who do not add any intrinsic AND extrinsic value to our lives. It is those men we can do without.

You and some others like you, keep complaining about feminism, as if feminism is the causative factor with the alarming manifestation of contemporary Peter Pan-syndromic males being underachieving, unmotivated, undateable, with less than masculine appeal in their utter lassitude.

Earth to dude bros: Men have been needing to be whipped (no pun intended) into shape to become warriors for countless aeons! This is why clan-sanctioned male initiation rites are absolutely essential to the budding male psyche. Without the ritualistic passage into manhood, males are lost -- a band of derelict and delinquent lost boys.

I have no doubt that if a caveman could have gotten away with lounging around the cave on a pile of furs, getting handfed grapes and berries all day long, getting all the sex on demand that he wanted, that he would have made no other accomplishments in his brief flash-in-the-pan life.

I also have no doubt that since prehistoric times, it is the women who summarily shunned unworthy males and rejected them as mates, knowing that these kinds of males were not suitable to ensure the survival of their progeny, or be able to take care of the infirm or elderly family members. This is instinctive on the part of females whose natural instincts have not been suppressed, repressed, and/or dissociated from their primal womanliness.

Men need accountability from other men, and need to be held accountable for their actions. Young males, especially, need mentoring by a responsible group of more mature-minded men. It wasn't but a century or so ago that males entered into apprenticeship to learn sustainable trades where there was no question that men were expected to contribute to society via a productive livelihood, beyond making domestic contributions.

Let me repeat that, in case this went over your head.

It isn't the responsibility of females to make boys into men. It is the modern nuclear family which removed much of the necessary influence of positive male role models from many boys' lives, and so they grow up bewildered and rudderless, clinging onto women for their validation.
Wastrels, whore-mongerers, husbands squandering money on booze, gambling away their paychecks, skipping out on the bills, not putting food on the table to feed their children's mouths -- none of this is new and has been pandemic to every culture in varying degrees to one extent or another.

Ergo, it is not the fault of feminists or any other group of women throughout history, that a large segment of the male population is prone to entropy and so we gals have had to stand in the gap.
The exact quote has slipped my mind at the moment, but the basic principle as proven throughout history, is that the more prosperous and less self-reliant any given civilization becomes; the softer, weaker and more feeble its citizens devolve into until it inevitably gets overtaken by a stronger, more rugged and resilient strain of humanity. And then the cycle keeps repeating itself, ad infinitum.

DreamLady




NookieNotes -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 6:24:21 AM)

Is it rude of me to get a lady boner when you write like that?




dreamlady -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 7:06:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Is it rude of me to get a lady boner when you write like that?

Lol, that's the first time I've heard of a 'lady boner'!

On a personal note - oh, what the hell - I am seriously contemplating changing my profile to Actively Seeking Friends Only.

It isn't just sub males here or at events I no longer attend. Or guys on vanilla dating sites, who are either horndogs or just plain unattractive and unexciting, as in lacking charismatic sex appeal, or a combination thereof.

There is a crisis in manhood, real, genuine manhood. The Officer-and-a-Gentleman manhood. Feminism is not to blame for this sorry state of affairs, either.

I see as much puffed-up silverback gorilla behavior coming from male Doms who want the *easy* life by finding a hardworking wage-earning submissive female to partially, or even fully (with multiple slaves), support them and their Male Supremacist lifestyle, while waiting on them hand & foot when she gets home from pulling double work shifts, or else is raising a family AND working outside the home! It's laughable how they wax nostalgic about the '50s Household housewife -- when they can't even live up to the '50s husband-as-provider model. [:-]

(Oh, I better not get started on that subject. . . .)

DreamLady




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 9:04:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Is it rude of me to get a lady boner when you write like that?


Make that 2 lady boners.




NookieNotes -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 10:32:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Is it rude of me to get a lady boner when you write like that?


Make that 2 lady boners.


Let's cross swords! LOL!




BecomingV -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 10:51:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPETpCVrH9Y

How some successful feminists blame men for their own making.

If men aren't needed anymore, what's the point of aiming high to support families?



This OP reflects a deep confusion of the entire concept of feminism. Like any "ism," there is a range because it's a group ideology and not an individual view. For purposes of better understanding, let's deal with the core meaning of feminism.

Feminism = Fairness

The youtube video clip posted is not a feminist position, rather it's an example of a patriarchal (male supremacist) straw man fallacy. A "straw man" fallacy is a form of unethical debate and is employed by those whom lack intelligence, facts or good character. The video is essentially a whiny male voice arguing against a position which was never taken to begin with as a diversionary tactic. (with an added dash of verbal masturbation)

Rather than focus on magazines and sound bites, perhaps the OP could benefit from some exposure to credible sources and verifiable facts?

In America...

The Center for Disease Control
The Department of Justice
Amnesty International, USA

Worldview:

The CIA Factbook
The United Nations Council on Women's Rights
The World Health Organization

I also recommend some TedTalks on masculinity.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 11:02:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Is it rude of me to get a lady boner when you write like that?


Make that 2 lady boners.


Let's cross swords! LOL!


I'll show you mine if you show me yours [sm=dancer.gif]




NookieNotes -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 1:11:46 PM)

Here's mine! *grins*

http://teamgreed.tumblr.com/post/122284201065/my-dragon-cock-a-gift-from-pet-this-was-done




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 1:35:34 PM)

I'm in court waiting so I'm afraid to open that link!
I've been stupid before and opened CS in court only to have a profile with a huge cock shot appear in color on my screen [:D]




PeonForHer -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 1:37:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

http://news.nationalpost.com/toronto/online-posts-about-killing-feminists-prompt-university-of-toronto-to-increase-campus-security

The University of Toronto has increased campus security after allegedly receiving reports of a series of anonymous web comments urging readers to kill “feminists.”




That really was somewhat disturbing.




stef -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 2:02:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Let's cross swords! LOL!

The sad thing about this, at least for Little Nicky, is that your swords will see more action than his EVER will. I doubt he'll ever even get his out of the scabbard unless roofies or massive quantities of alcohol are involved.




PeonForHer -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 2:30:00 PM)

FR

Just in case anybody's completely confused, Nick operates with his own definition of 'feminist'. This is - as far as I've been able to gather - 'any woman who wants to get more from this world', 'any woman who holds left wing views' but, most importantly, 'any woman who doesn't like men'.

As a simple rule of the thumb: a feminist by definition hates men; a woman who hates men is by definition a feminist.




NookieNotes -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 2:49:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

I'm in court waiting so I'm afraid to open that link!
I've been stupid before and opened CS in court only to have a profile with a huge cock shot appear in color on my screen [:D]


Yep. That's about right... But he's PRETTY! *grins*

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ORIGINAL: stef

quote:

ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Let's cross swords! LOL!

The sad thing about this, at least for Little Nicky, is that your swords will see more action than his EVER will. I doubt he'll ever even get his out of the scabbard unless roofies or massive quantities of alcohol are involved.



I bet all of my swords separately see more action... And some are new! LOL!




respectmen -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 3:06:02 PM)

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The University of Toronto has increased campus security after allegedly receiving reports of a series of anonymous web comments urging readers to kill “feminists.”


OMG OMG OMG...ummmm but, how is this relevant in this discussion? Oh you're a feminist, now I understand. Any woman issue is a billion times more important than any male issue. No "cough" female supremacy there "cough".

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I can tell you right now that we have no use for needy, greedy, selfish little cock-centric fuckwits who do not add any intrinsic AND extrinsic value to our lives. It is those men we can do without.


Plenty of women expect men to be offering a lot while they hate looking in the mirror when comparing their status. They have looks, yep, so...what else?

quote:

You and some others like you, keep complaining about feminism


And feminism keeps complaining about men. It has for the past 60 or so years now.

Double standards and equality are not interchangeable. You're intelligent enough to understand this, right? Most SJWs and feminists aren't. Anyway, here is a prime example of equality. If women are entitled to complain about women's issues (feminism), that means men are also entitled to complain about men's issues.

Equality is so bloody simple, aren't it? NO! Feminists want double standards and then laughably claim they want equality. Ask yourself this, would you be making the same type of posts as you did in this thread to a feminist? There is no room for double standards when it comes to equality.

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Men need accountability from other men, and need to be held accountable for their actions


They also face sky high expectations from women to even be considered a worthy human being. It's funny how many women out there don't seem to look in the mirror when choosing these expectations in men. Anyway, when do feminists ever take accountability? Oh, only for positive things I guess, anything negative is the fault of patriarchy. No sexism there "cough".

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It isn't the responsibility of females to make boys into men


But females keep making the rules of what a real man is and isn't. How many times in your life have you heard a woman say "I want a real man"? I have heard it at least more than a million times.

If men tried to tell women how they should be or else they are not real women, OMG patriarchy, misogyny.

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husbands squandering money.........................

Ergo, it is not the fault of feminists or any other group of women throughout history


Each individual is responsible for their actions. Unfortunately, feminists blame "patriarchy" on everything, even their own failures. It's sad and pathetic. This is how feminists are like children. Nothing is ever their fault. Women are perfect princesses who can never do wrong and be at fault. It's all the fault of a patriarchy boogeyman I tell ya! Next they will be blaming their farts on patriarchy.

The point to this thread is that plenty of women, especially feminists, keep claiming they don't need men, while on the other hand, expecting a male to not only be self sufficient, but overly self sufficient. In man cases, a woman only desires a man who earns more than her. Pretty much, many women only want men above them.
















PeonForHer -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 3:14:15 PM)

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But females keep making the rules of what a real man is and isn't. How many times in your life have you heard a woman say "I want a real man"? I have heard it at least more than a million times.


Yes, that's true. I've heard it and read it a number of times, including here at CM. But why on earth would you bracket airheads who say things like that under the heading 'feminist'? Such women aren't feminists - they're just peabrains.




Zonie63 -> RE: How Feminism Set Men Free (9/11/2015 4:53:25 PM)

If feminism set men free, then as a man, should I be upset about it? It set me free. I'm free! FREE! Freedom, freedom, freedom!

Yeah, I'm cool with that. [:D]




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