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DesideriScuri -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/16/2015 6:57:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
To DesideriScuri
The question is, who do you like and think can help your nation get out of debt that is running?
Actually, in regards to National Health Care, the failure with Obamacare is that, there is no point instilling national health insurance country wide if the government does not regulate the pricings of health care in the US.
I can buy a worldwide insurance plan, that covers Canada, UK, Europe, Australia etc, I can get 100% coverage in any hospitals in any of these countries yet if I wanted to add USA to my list of coverage, a 200% loading will be added to my premium because USA is recognised as the most outrageously priced health care in the world.
I don't think Obama quite understand how national health care works and how to keep costs low. It actually starts with regulating prices of healthcare. I mean, I am sure some basic necessity things like gas pricing, electricity pricing, water pricing, maybe even public transport, if there is any, is regulated in some form, and yet, they don't feel it's important to regulate one of the most basic human necessity, which is health care?
That is the root of the problem.
In my country, we have recommended prices and have prosecuted and remove licenses from top surgeons. This is because, a medical cost of something that should cost maybe 300k, gets inflated to 1mil, just because the surgeon knows this person is claiming from insurance, so they want to profit from it. I believe currently in the US, there is no regulation, no controls as to health care cost.
And if there are no controls, insurance premiums can only get unreasonable, EVEN with the strength of the whole population getting coverage.


Obamacare has nothing to do with reducing the costs of goods or services. I've started threads on lowering the cost of medical care a couple times on here, but they've gotten nowhere.

If you impose price controls on a hospital, you are assuming the hospital has enough profit to absorb that cost control. If the actual cost of the procedure is higher than the price ceiling, then what? Will the hospital have to provide that procedure, or can it drop it from it's list of procedures offered?

I'm not sure there is a candidate running that can lead the US back to fiscal sanity. I don't think Trump is politically savvy enough to get the job done. Ben Carson is likely the smartest candidate, but he lacks the political understanding that will be necessary. I don't believe any Democrat has a plan that will reduce the debt. Out of the GOP, all the candidates that have an understanding of the politics aren't likely to truly take on the debt, no matter how much they might crow about it on the campaign trail.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/16/2015 7:00:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
But but...Michelle and the Donald, are...of the people. Harry Truman wasn't a 'politician.'


Technically, every candidate are "of the people."

Truman was a Senator prior to being FDR's VP, wasn't he?




epiphiny43 -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/16/2015 8:36:42 PM)

Trump's business gift is risking Other people's money, profiting from the successes, and leaving creditors hanging and unpaid if it bombs. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/22/a-secret-to-donald-trumps-success-that-you-simply-cant-replicate/
Other easily Googlable pieces point out how much more successful other NYC families have been with the same background and business opportunities during his career.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vs-other-billionaires-2015-8
For details on how he used taxpayer money and govt. programs he now condemns to make money: http://www.alternet.org/story/156234/exposing_how_donald_trump_really_made_his_fortune%3A_inheritance_from_dad_and_the_government's_protection_mostly_did_the_trick




MrRodgers -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/16/2015 10:03:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
But but...Michelle and the Donald, are...of the people. Harry Truman wasn't a 'politician.'


Technically, every candidate are "of the people."

Truman was a Senator prior to being FDR's VP, wasn't he?


Well technically he was but also ias a U.S. Senator from Missouri, only served 7 years.

Truman spoke out against corporate greed and the dangers of wall street speculators and other moneyed special interests attaining too much influence in national affairs. He was largely ignored by Democratic President Roosevelt (banking family) and had trouble with getting calls to the White House returned.

Sounds a little familiar.




joether -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/16/2015 11:43:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I am not a fan of Obama.


That's OK, I'm sure President Obama has plenty of A/C units throughout the White House!

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
And frankly speaking, if I had to pick among all the choices available. I'd like to give Trump 4 years and see if he can live up to some of his promises, like build that simple wall which every other politician been ridiculing and saying it's too difficult to build. I just want to see if his able to make the wall happen.


If he lives up to his promises like the last Republican in the White House; expect all the opposite things to take place. Much of what Mr. Trump has promises is vague; just like all the other Republicans run for the GOP ticket. Its one thing to say "I'll build a good wall"; its another to layout the full details. Those details cover logistics to 'construct and maintain' the wall and the people that would operate along and in supporting efforts. It would be like then, Sen. Obama stating "I'll bring Healthcare to the nation's people". Its great but very, very....vague.

The GOP nomination-to-be has to put down some real solid details and numbers. Since Americans are going to be 'footing the bill', I think they have a right to know the details. Are we sacrificing other areas or are we increasing taxes specifically to pay for the initial creation and then a lower tax level for its maintenance?

Republicans, being predictable will try to take money from Democratic sacred cows to pay for the wall and people. Unfortunately those Democrats will resist and effectively stock any money being diverted to pay for the wall. So unless Republicans are going to beat up their own sacred cows; they'll be raising people's taxes.

Or, the more likely event: talk lots about it and do nothing about it for ANOTHER four years. Then just raise it up for the next election and the ones that follow. Its worked for abortion, taxes, war, and healthcare; why not for border security?

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Bring manufacturing back to the US, I'd like to see how he makes USA made cars become well world wide sought after, and beat Japanese cars.


To bring manufacturing jobs back would require Americans to be happy working 50-60 hours at half the federal minimal wage level. How many US Citizens do we see picking strawberries next to those illegal immigrants doing the same thing under the hot sun? Like....none?

For the most part, other nations can handle manufacturing jobs because they can pay their employes a low amount. Why is that? Because Americans would rather shop at Wal-Mart and get their shovel at $5, rather then $15 from a US Manufacture. Your as guilty of the mindset as everyone else. We want our prices low; yet do not think about the system that created that product.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Why not? If Germany can make their cars well sought after, why can't USA? Hell Germany even make their home appliances world wide well sought after. They even make quality sex toys, beats California exotics. US need to buck up, they used to be associated with quality, their home made products, and we used to love buying everything Made in the USA for it's quality. Now we just buy Germany and Japan. We are paying premiums for these. We know they won't be cheap, but consumers in Asia understand that quality comes with a price tag and we are okay with it.


To create that quality concept requires...years...if not DECADES. Americans didn't work on quality, but price. While Germans worked on quality, us Americans worked on being capitalist assholes! In the short term, us Americans made a huge fortune. However, time, technology and culture proved that producing quality products with quality materials requires some expert handling. In college, many of my fellow dorm-mates would drink Budweiser. AKA tiger piss. I got the Sam Adams and Guinness. If your going to get drunk; do it with the good stuff! An I paid more at the counter for my beer than most of those in the dorm. And locked that fridge up!

Like every other topic, the GOP will tell you they can bring these sort of jobs back. They know most of their supporters will not remember the promises four years later when they spew the same shit....AGAIN! Like the wall along the Southern border of America; how much of their plans involve solid numbers and information? None of them. They know, just like the rest of us informed on these stuff, that manufacturing jobs are not coming back in mass numbers; Unless some dramatic shift in the American culture takes place.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
And his gonna do something that I raised an eyebrown at. His gonna raise tax for the super rich and reduce taxes for the middle class. Not very republican, but I would like to see him achieve that.


How much is he raising the tax on the rich? How much is he reducing the tax on the middle class? What about the poor in the nation? Do they get a reduction in their taxes?

Again, 'great' with bullshit, and 'shitty' on the real solid information. He's a multi-billionaire. You would have me believe he can not afford a sixty-person research group to create the solid information and numbers? Doesn't that sound just...alittle....silly?

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
And he claims he can come up with a better health care plan to replace obama care, which..., no specific ideas were mentioned, but super curious what is his idea of a better plan.


The GOP has plenty of 'ideas' on healthcare. They have been saying that bullshit for over a decade now! Where are these awesome ideas, fleshed out, that beat down the ACA? Funny how those are missing from the equation. Likewise, if he or other GOP members stated their idea is better than the ACA; you would never know, since you didn't read the law!

Again, how much of what they are giving is based on reality and how much is just bullshit? If you don't like it when President Obama gives you bullshit; why are you 'fine' when the GOP does it?

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
If he screws up the next 4 years and fail all his promises, then that gives both parties 4 years to come up with a better candidate than what's better out there now. And the whole world gets 4 years of fun entertainment.


If he screws up the next four years; the Democrats win in a landslide. That's assuming Russia doesn't nuke up in to oblivion!

We have a good economy, stable nation, good healthcare, good relationships with our allies and neighbors. Why would we vote for a Republican? What has that party done for the nation in the last seven years that is 'good' and 'wonderful' for the nation?

Its like vetting a lawn mowing service. You have one service that might have been priced alittle high, but was professional and very good with the details. Or the other that never showed up when you expected them, and even then, failed to do a fair job. Yeah, they are cheap, but then, so is their attitude! Who do you hire for the next job?

You say you want quality; then vote Democrat.....

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I believe Trump is patriotic and genuinely believes he has the country's best interests at heart though. The problem is his personality and lack of diplomacy.


Most people in this nation believe their are patriotic and have the nation's best interests at heart. Even the President. Yet, one has to weigh 'reality' with 'bullshit'. Mr. Trump might do some good things for the nation. And he might do bad stuff. Its hard to judge. Yet, how does he treat other people? Do you want him treating Putin like he does with Rosie O'Donnell?

Yeah, you could say he would have advisers as President that would help prevent him from stating stupid and foolish stuff. But then, the guy already has that as a multi-billionaire! Doesn't look like its helping him with 'most likely to vote in the general election' voters.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
And anyway, I think Hillary is showing cowardice by avoiding many hard hitting interviews. I don't like a leader who is not brave to handle anything. Of course her scandals are not great.


Brave? She was a Secretary of State for four years. She has been the first lady for eight years. She's a lawyer. Been involved semi-directly with a national scandal. She turns hecklers into ground beef in seconds. She has been under one after another, assaults by the Republican Party for two years running; as they try one tactic or another to show she is guilty of....anything....something. 'Men's Health' Magazine has solidly ranked her in the top 40 "Toughest Men" for a decade now.

Seriously? How brave does this lady have to before you consider voting for her?

How many of the GOP nominees could fairly stack up to everything she has been though? Go ahead, give me the bullshit....

Since not a single one of them, or all together, could compare to her level of 'brave'. Its like comparing a guy with a club to an M1 Main Battle Tank in the US Army.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I don't know about Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden who seem to be pressured to run but is reluctant to run.


Then why don't you learn? Or are you afraid have having your viewpoints challenged? Either Gentlemen would do quite a bit of good for this nation over the next eight years. Each in their individuals ways. Mr. Sanders is not only willing to state what he feels could/should be done for the nation's benefit; but how exactly to accomplish it.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Nobody else in the republican camp seem to be up to it.


All of the GOP/TP candidates are weak willed individuals. They can not stand up to Mr. Trump. They try to play the political game of "Say mean stuff, but not mean enough that he doesn't give them money for their election". If they are not willing to go 'toe to toe' with Mr. Trump and call the man out; why should any of us think they got balls between their legs to stand up to the evils within the world?

Why do you think Russia, Iran, and North Korean want a Republican/Tea Partier to win? Because Hillary would effectively deal with all three at once and ask for seconds!

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Why not Michelle Obama? She's probably one of the best first lady US has ever seen. I am not a fan of Obama, but I love Michelle Obama as a representation of a modern woman on how one can be good mom, biggest cheerleader and supporter of her husband, just being there for her man, while still maintaining her independence and chasing her own dreams and making changes that she believes is good.


I do not think she wants the role. She would do it out of duty for the nation as a whole. Now if only we could get a Congress full of people doing the same....




joether -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/17/2015 12:30:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
To DesideriScuri
The question is, who do you like and think can help your nation get out of debt that is running?
Actually, in regards to National Health Care, the failure with Obamacare is that, there is no point instilling national health insurance country wide if the government does not regulate the pricings of health care in the US.
I can buy a worldwide insurance plan, that covers Canada, UK, Europe, Australia etc, I can get 100% coverage in any hospitals in any of these countries yet if I wanted to add USA to my list of coverage, a 200% loading will be added to my premium because USA is recognised as the most outrageously priced health care in the world.
I don't think Obama quite understand how national health care works and how to keep costs low. It actually starts with regulating prices of healthcare. I mean, I am sure some basic necessity things like gas pricing, electricity pricing, water pricing, maybe even public transport, if there is any, is regulated in some form, and yet, they don't feel it's important to regulate one of the most basic human necessity, which is health care?
That is the root of the problem.
In my country, we have recommended prices and have prosecuted and remove licenses from top surgeons. This is because, a medical cost of something that should cost maybe 300k, gets inflated to 1mil, just because the surgeon knows this person is claiming from insurance, so they want to profit from it. I believe currently in the US, there is no regulation, no controls as to health care cost.
And if there are no controls, insurance premiums can only get unreasonable, EVEN with the strength of the whole population getting coverage.


Obamacare has nothing to do with reducing the costs of goods or services. I've started threads on lowering the cost of medical care a couple times on here, but they've gotten nowhere.


You might want to look up Preventive Card under the ACA.

The problem in your threads: Your not giving accurate or good information by which an improvement can be produced. The amount of research that goes into understanding medical care in the United States is enormous! I do not say this to put you down but rather to explain that you and I, do not have the resources to accurately give good information on a national scale for medical treatment.

We both agree to making sure those Americans in harms way and the inability to handle their situation; should get help. The problem is that you are not willing look at all options on the table. Since many of those options involve increasing taxes to individuals. You want to help people without increasing your taxes. You can not have it both ways. The ACA is 'your method' given legislative form. There are alot of problems with the concept.

If we raised taxes to help handle the issues; that would fix many problems. Until you and others are willing to face the situation we find ourselves in; these problems will persist. Don't think for a moment I enjoy the idea of raising taxes. But I understand the cost. The more we ignore it, the greater that number becomes. I understand your reluctance, I really do! We'll decide where we draw the line and live with the consequences.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
If you impose price controls on a hospital, you are assuming the hospital has enough profit to absorb that cost control. If the actual cost of the procedure is higher than the price ceiling, then what? Will the hospital have to provide that procedure, or can it drop it from it's list of procedures offered?


Hospitals by nature operate under a budget. In effect, its a price control. But not a control you have at the individual level. Or one at a government level to which the hospital must obey. They have to obey laws more strictly then individuals when it comes to healthcare. One of the concepts of the ACA was to tone down the number of people using the ER as the doctor's office. Giving people a healthcare option allowed them to see a medical doctor during normal business hours and thus, reducing the logistics problems in the ER. Because it costs more for the ER to handle a problem that a medical doctors during normal business hours could handle. Hospitals across the nation were willing to go down this road, because it works out for them in the long run.

Hospitals have closed not due to legal regulations but poor internal price controls. Which is a failure of management (i.e. hospital administration). Often times local cities or even the state would pay money just to keep the hospital from closing. However in this recent recession, many of those cities and states could not off set the costs, because they had major problems of their own. The 'right wing used these circumstances to attack the President and the ACA with regards to hospitals. Its was mean and underhand; but it served their political advantaged. They knew most Americans did not understand the healthcare system nor 'how hospitals operate during a recession'. They took advantage of people's ignorance to gain more Americans attacking the President.

The President was correct at the time this was happening. Democrats even used money received from the ARRA of 2009 to off set some of the costs to hospitals in a 'round the bound' fashion' (i.e. not directly funding them). Republicans did this in fewer numbers.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I'm not sure there is a candidate running that can lead the US back to fiscal sanity


That's involves raising taxes. How do you think we are going to pay off the national debt inside of twenty years? By lowering taxes? Lowering the budget by a significant chunk? We have tried these methods. At local, state and federal levels. Hasn't worked. It will never work. Not in this nation or any nation on the planet! We can ignore the writing on the wall only so long. How long it takes us to face up to reality will determine that tax rate increase. We do it down, its a low amount; later, much higher. I'm not stating this because I enjoy the idea of my taxes rising. Rather raise by a small amount then a larger amount.

Not a single republican or tea partier has balls to even suggest such a move. As rational and mathematically-correct it is to perform. Democrats could suggest small amounts with a pile load of bullshit to 'run interference'. Neither party has the will to handle the problem; just like the people they represent.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I don't think Trump is politically savvy enough to get the job done. Ben Carson is likely the smartest candidate, but he lacks the political understanding that will be necessary. I don't believe any Democrat has a plan that will reduce the debt. Out of the GOP, all the candidates that have an understanding of the politics aren't likely to truly take on the debt, no matter how much they might crow about it on the campaign trail.


As I said, candidates for public office are not willing to handle reality. Nor are the peopel likely to vote for them. Until these two groups of Americans are willing to 'face the music', not only will nothing get done, but our problems....worsen. Not saying this as a liberal but a guy that looks at the numbers. Right now its ugly! In sixteen to twenty-two years? We'll wish it looked ugly.....

Here are two good macro economic questions:

1 ) How quickly do we reduce the US Debt?
2 ) Should we have any debt on the books at the end?





Kirata -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/17/2015 11:07:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

You might want to look up Preventive Card under the ACA.

The problem in your threads: Your not giving accurate or good information...

You might want to look up "Preventive Care". [:)]

K.





DesideriScuri -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/17/2015 2:20:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jillian4you4fun
Go to youtube and search "is michelle obama a man?" And before you write it off as nonsense watch a few vids. The first time I heard about it I thought is was nonsense too but I don't anymore. There's also a few times he has referred to his wife in speeches as michael. How could he possibly make a mistake like that and call his wife a mans name?
I don't think he ever would have heard the end of that. There is the issue of the children looking like them, but if you look at enough of the images they don't have a lot in common
and there are no pictures anywhere showing Michelle pregnant. And what do you know? There are no birth certificates for Michelle or the kids known anywhere. 4 people in the white house without valid birth certificates.....hmmm


I did it. I youtube searched it. I couldn't get through "Part 1."

Every single gender trait they used to "prove" Michelle is a man, was described as typically a male gender feature. That it is typically a male gender feature also implies that it isn't solely a male gender feature, else it would be described as solely a male gender characteristic.

The body proportion part is crap, too. Sure, there may be a "normal" or "typical" gender proportion, but I can guarantee I can find women that don't match up.

Take a look at Peyton Manning some time. His torso is very long, and his limbs are, relative to his torso, short. My ex-wife has legs nearly as long as mine, but she has such a short torso, that she's 5" shorter than me.

Competitive female swimmers tend to have wider shoulders than women who are not competitive swimmers. Gymnasts and swimmers (male and female) tend to have large shoulders and thick necks, due solely to their training regimens.

Now, just for shits and giggles, let's say Michelle was a man, or still is a man. So fucking what?!? That "he" had to masquerade as a female to be socially accepted would be behind that. And, so what if President Obama was bi/homosexual?




DesideriScuri -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/17/2015 2:25:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
But but...Michelle and the Donald, are...of the people. Harry Truman wasn't a 'politician.'

Technically, every candidate are "of the people."
Truman was a Senator prior to being FDR's VP, wasn't he?

Well technically he was but also ias a U.S. Senator from Missouri, only served 7 years.
Truman spoke out against corporate greed and the dangers of wall street speculators and other moneyed special interests attaining too much influence in national affairs. He was largely ignored by Democratic President Roosevelt (banking family) and had trouble with getting calls to the White House returned.
Sounds a little familiar.


http://www.trumanlittlewhitehouse.com/key-west/president-truman-biography.htm
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    After failing in the haberdashery business, Truman ran for county judge (the title for a county commissioner) in Jackson County, MO. In 1924, he ran for re-election and lost, the only election he ever lost. In 1926 he was again elected judge, a post he held until 1934 when he ran for the U.S. Senate and won. During World War II, Senator Truman headed the Truman Commission that investigated fraud in defense contracts. Truman was responsible for saving the government several million dollars. He remained in the Senate until President Franklin Roosevelt tapped him as his running mate for his fourth term in 1944.


So, he was a county judge/commissioner for at least one year prior to 1924. So, for nearly 20 years, he was in some elected political office. I could be wrong, but that sure sounds like he was a politician.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/17/2015 2:38:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: joether
You might want to look up Preventive Card under the ACA.
The problem in your threads:....


The problem in your threads: You're an idiot inadequately posing as an intellectual.

Preventive care doesn't actually change the costs of good and services. If I were to prevent needing dialysis for a diabetic condition by preventing my diabetic condition, does that change the cost of the dialysis? Nope.

Obamacare was not set up to have any effect on that.

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Here are two good macro economic questions:
1 ) How quickly do we reduce the US Debt?
2 ) Should we have any debt on the books at the end?


1) We will never raise enough tax revenues, nor cut enough spending to pay off the debt in a couple decades. I'm perfectly okay with paying down the debt consistently. If it takes 50 years, that's fine, as long as it's consistently being paid down. You can't do that if you're constantly running deficits, though. So, the first step would be to balance spending and revenues.
2) "Should we..." I don't know if we should have any debt left, but if we're paying down our debt, and have reached the end of that, that sorta implies there is no more debt to pay off. I'd much rather see a surplus (tax rebates, baby!!!) than a deficit, but as long as the debt isn't very large, I can accept having some debt. Maybe 5-10% GDP, max? I would think that a manageable debt level to maintain. Still, I'd rather see no debt, so we're not beholden to any creditors.




jillian4you4fun -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 1:23:11 AM)

@thompsonx Is being mean and close minded working for you? If you can't temporarily set your beliefs aside and even consider out side ideas you will never learn anything new.


@freedomdwarf1 You have some valid points but I googled " Michelle obama pregnant " And I see one pic where her belly is sticking out but if you click on the link the story talks about her not being pregnant just gaining weight and most of the circles are lower highlighting her male parts. What I do see is a lot of pictures of a man trying to look like a woman.
Sorry but it's pretty obvious.


@stef Insults are not a good way to debate.

@DesideriScuri I can agree with most of what you say and your right it doesn't matter I just thought it was interesting if you don't that's your choice.




stef -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 1:40:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jillian4you4fun

@stef Insults are not a good way to debate.

You seem confused. I don't debate imbeciles.




jillian4you4fun -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 6:00:35 AM)

@stef I bet your a real joy to be around.




Greta75 -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 6:15:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: joether
The GOP nomination-to-be has to put down some real solid details and numbers. Since Americans are going to be 'footing the bill', I think they have a right to know the details. Are we sacrificing other areas or are we increasing taxes specifically to pay for the initial creation and then a lower tax level for its maintenance?

Trump already explain that the cost of habouring illegal immigrants, outweighs the cost of building the wall. The long term benefits are cost savings. People still keep asking him how his gonna fund the wall. I won't be surprise if he'd fund the damn wall with his own money and a few of his rich cronies if that was even possible as a donation to America ha.

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To bring manufacturing jobs back would require Americans to be happy working 50-60 hours at half the federal minimal wage level. How many US Citizens do we see picking strawberries next to those illegal immigrants doing the same thing under the hot sun? Like....none?

I really don't understand what's going on in this part of things. What is Germany doing right? That's definitely not a country where people are working in manufacturing in slave wages. Why can't US make the same things happen?

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To create that quality concept requires...years...if not DECADES. Americans didn't work on quality, but price. While Germans worked on quality, us Americans worked on being capitalist assholes!

Well, I believe Trump is planning to change this. That's why it's about making America Great again. Trump is about branding, he really understands branding. Now all the US brands are made in freaking china, and they are bad quality crap. I don't know how his gonna reverse all that damage, but his the only one who is talking about improving on this area, where I feel US should have dominated the world in. They should have been about quality.

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Unless some dramatic shift in the American culture takes place.

Currently, Asians have overtaken the US, in terms of most number of people with USD 1 million of liquidity cash in their banks. My country itself have the largest amount of millionaires per capital in the world. Most American companies just want to make money. They just need to rethink how they want to rebrand themselves back to quality, people are outside of the US are willing to pay premiums. They don't have to rely on their domestic market to fund their manufacturing sector. Even china people distrust their own Made In China products, and are willing to pay premiums for better products from Australia and New Zealand right now. I think Trump is a business man with business acumen to see business trends.

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How much is he raising the tax on the rich? How much is he reducing the tax on the middle class? What about the poor in the nation? Do they get a reduction in their taxes?

I do think the poor in the US pays way too much tax. Again, I think your country sucked at balancing budgets. We pay the lowest taxes in the world, poor people, and poor people means people who earn below 30k per annum, pays zero taxes, and we are in surpluses every year. And we have no natural resources. Like seriously, I think there has been alot of wasteful spending in the government over there, the debt been getting worst and worst, what is status quo has not been working for so many years. I believe Trump is the man to fix it. He knows how to balance budgets. But he can't prove it, until you guys give him 4 years.
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If you don't like it when President Obama gives you bullshit; why are you 'fine' when the GOP does it?

The funny thing is, GOP hates Trump too, as much as they hate Obama! So voting for Trump isn't exactly being pro-GOP. I don't even know why Trump is republican, except his fiscally conservative. I would like Trump even if he was democrat!

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We have a good economy, stable nation, good healthcare, good relationships with our allies and neighbors.

If you say so. That's what you feel, and how you feel, there is nothing to argue about here.

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Do you want him treating Putin like he does with Rosie O'Donnell?

You must have missed the memo that he plans to be best friends with Putin and be allies with Russia.

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Doesn't look like its helping him with 'most likely to vote in the general election' voters.

I actually think, his inability to filter is endearing to people who are sick of slick politicians only telling you what you wanna hear, so you might be in for a surprise what the general public will vote for.

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Seriously? How brave does this lady have to before you consider voting for her?

She only dares to go on interviews with people who will go easy on her, like freaking Ellen Degeneres. Trump puts himself out to be interviewed by people who hates him. Try to see the difference. His gonna appear on Colbert soon, who is gonna rip him apart. Trump is one brave heart!

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Then why don't you learn? Or are you afraid have having your viewpoints challenged?

Bernie Sanders is socialist and proud. Socialism always leads to even higher taxes. Look at Canada. I mean, if you like what your neighbour has, then vote for Bernie. Not saying Canada is bad. It could be good, but I came from a country that is fiscally conservative and manages budgets well, while keeping taxes low. So to me, it's working over here.




Greta75 -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 6:20:54 AM)

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Go to youtube and search "is michelle obama a man?" And before you write it off as nonsense watch a few vids.

Problem with that Jill, is, some of the test to see if I am male or female. I would have failed.

And I'm pretty sure I am female. I have hands like a man. And Shoulders like a man.




Greta75 -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 6:23:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Really???[8|]What the fuck is it if it ain't him bankrupting the companies he owned and managed.Do you just open your mouth to change feet?


Okay, I remembered when the financial crisis happened, certain public sectors areas were shut down, people working in public sector lost their jobs.

Trump main parent company remained healthy, while he had to make difficult decisions to cut off a few arms for the greater good.

That is what the US government did during 2008 crisis too to stay afloat.

So just saying, Trump has the most relevant experience to handle financial crisis.






Greta75 -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 7:07:05 AM)

Going by this interview, oh he opened up alot more about what his gonna do with healthcare! Great idea! His not against national health care, but his gonna make insurers bid for it and take the one who offers the best price and best benefits for it. Not a bad idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwIL6imI6EU

I think more journalists just need to be more professional like this one.




thompsonx -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 7:12:41 AM)

ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Really???[8|]What the fuck is it if it ain't him bankrupting the companies he owned and managed.Do you just open your mouth to change feet?


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So just saying, Trump has the most relevant experience to handle financial crisis.


He certainly has the most experience at bankrupting corporations. Would you pick him to run your country?






thompsonx -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 7:13:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jillian4you4fun

@stef I bet your a real joy to be around.


Only for those with a sense of humor




thompsonx -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/21/2015 7:17:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jillian4you4fun

@thompsonx Is being mean and close minded working for you?


Pointing out your ignorance is hardly close minded. Now if you would stop making shit up and deal in verifiable facts then people like me would not point out your uncommon foolishness.

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 If you can't temporarily set your beliefs aside and even consider out side ideas you will never learn anything new.

Do you just open your mouth to change feet. The presidents birth certificate had been around for a long time. The other side has had 18 years to prove he is not an amerikan ...so far they are batting 0. If you had the iq of a small pebble you would be able to find out when and where the whole family was born. Instead you want us to watchsome mornonic vidio and congragulate you for your ignorance. The fact that you cannot find anyone's birth certificate is only proof of your own ignorance and arrogance.




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