joether -> RE: Michelle Obama for President (9/16/2015 11:43:10 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Greta75 I am not a fan of Obama. That's OK, I'm sure President Obama has plenty of A/C units throughout the White House! quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 And frankly speaking, if I had to pick among all the choices available. I'd like to give Trump 4 years and see if he can live up to some of his promises, like build that simple wall which every other politician been ridiculing and saying it's too difficult to build. I just want to see if his able to make the wall happen. If he lives up to his promises like the last Republican in the White House; expect all the opposite things to take place. Much of what Mr. Trump has promises is vague; just like all the other Republicans run for the GOP ticket. Its one thing to say "I'll build a good wall"; its another to layout the full details. Those details cover logistics to 'construct and maintain' the wall and the people that would operate along and in supporting efforts. It would be like then, Sen. Obama stating "I'll bring Healthcare to the nation's people". Its great but very, very....vague. The GOP nomination-to-be has to put down some real solid details and numbers. Since Americans are going to be 'footing the bill', I think they have a right to know the details. Are we sacrificing other areas or are we increasing taxes specifically to pay for the initial creation and then a lower tax level for its maintenance? Republicans, being predictable will try to take money from Democratic sacred cows to pay for the wall and people. Unfortunately those Democrats will resist and effectively stock any money being diverted to pay for the wall. So unless Republicans are going to beat up their own sacred cows; they'll be raising people's taxes. Or, the more likely event: talk lots about it and do nothing about it for ANOTHER four years. Then just raise it up for the next election and the ones that follow. Its worked for abortion, taxes, war, and healthcare; why not for border security? quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 Bring manufacturing back to the US, I'd like to see how he makes USA made cars become well world wide sought after, and beat Japanese cars. To bring manufacturing jobs back would require Americans to be happy working 50-60 hours at half the federal minimal wage level. How many US Citizens do we see picking strawberries next to those illegal immigrants doing the same thing under the hot sun? Like....none? For the most part, other nations can handle manufacturing jobs because they can pay their employes a low amount. Why is that? Because Americans would rather shop at Wal-Mart and get their shovel at $5, rather then $15 from a US Manufacture. Your as guilty of the mindset as everyone else. We want our prices low; yet do not think about the system that created that product. quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 Why not? If Germany can make their cars well sought after, why can't USA? Hell Germany even make their home appliances world wide well sought after. They even make quality sex toys, beats California exotics. US need to buck up, they used to be associated with quality, their home made products, and we used to love buying everything Made in the USA for it's quality. Now we just buy Germany and Japan. We are paying premiums for these. We know they won't be cheap, but consumers in Asia understand that quality comes with a price tag and we are okay with it. To create that quality concept requires...years...if not DECADES. Americans didn't work on quality, but price. While Germans worked on quality, us Americans worked on being capitalist assholes! In the short term, us Americans made a huge fortune. However, time, technology and culture proved that producing quality products with quality materials requires some expert handling. In college, many of my fellow dorm-mates would drink Budweiser. AKA tiger piss. I got the Sam Adams and Guinness. If your going to get drunk; do it with the good stuff! An I paid more at the counter for my beer than most of those in the dorm. And locked that fridge up! Like every other topic, the GOP will tell you they can bring these sort of jobs back. They know most of their supporters will not remember the promises four years later when they spew the same shit....AGAIN! Like the wall along the Southern border of America; how much of their plans involve solid numbers and information? None of them. They know, just like the rest of us informed on these stuff, that manufacturing jobs are not coming back in mass numbers; Unless some dramatic shift in the American culture takes place. quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 And his gonna do something that I raised an eyebrown at. His gonna raise tax for the super rich and reduce taxes for the middle class. Not very republican, but I would like to see him achieve that. How much is he raising the tax on the rich? How much is he reducing the tax on the middle class? What about the poor in the nation? Do they get a reduction in their taxes? Again, 'great' with bullshit, and 'shitty' on the real solid information. He's a multi-billionaire. You would have me believe he can not afford a sixty-person research group to create the solid information and numbers? Doesn't that sound just...alittle....silly? quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 And he claims he can come up with a better health care plan to replace obama care, which..., no specific ideas were mentioned, but super curious what is his idea of a better plan. The GOP has plenty of 'ideas' on healthcare. They have been saying that bullshit for over a decade now! Where are these awesome ideas, fleshed out, that beat down the ACA? Funny how those are missing from the equation. Likewise, if he or other GOP members stated their idea is better than the ACA; you would never know, since you didn't read the law! Again, how much of what they are giving is based on reality and how much is just bullshit? If you don't like it when President Obama gives you bullshit; why are you 'fine' when the GOP does it? quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 If he screws up the next 4 years and fail all his promises, then that gives both parties 4 years to come up with a better candidate than what's better out there now. And the whole world gets 4 years of fun entertainment. If he screws up the next four years; the Democrats win in a landslide. That's assuming Russia doesn't nuke up in to oblivion! We have a good economy, stable nation, good healthcare, good relationships with our allies and neighbors. Why would we vote for a Republican? What has that party done for the nation in the last seven years that is 'good' and 'wonderful' for the nation? Its like vetting a lawn mowing service. You have one service that might have been priced alittle high, but was professional and very good with the details. Or the other that never showed up when you expected them, and even then, failed to do a fair job. Yeah, they are cheap, but then, so is their attitude! Who do you hire for the next job? You say you want quality; then vote Democrat..... quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 I believe Trump is patriotic and genuinely believes he has the country's best interests at heart though. The problem is his personality and lack of diplomacy. Most people in this nation believe their are patriotic and have the nation's best interests at heart. Even the President. Yet, one has to weigh 'reality' with 'bullshit'. Mr. Trump might do some good things for the nation. And he might do bad stuff. Its hard to judge. Yet, how does he treat other people? Do you want him treating Putin like he does with Rosie O'Donnell? Yeah, you could say he would have advisers as President that would help prevent him from stating stupid and foolish stuff. But then, the guy already has that as a multi-billionaire! Doesn't look like its helping him with 'most likely to vote in the general election' voters. quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 And anyway, I think Hillary is showing cowardice by avoiding many hard hitting interviews. I don't like a leader who is not brave to handle anything. Of course her scandals are not great. Brave? She was a Secretary of State for four years. She has been the first lady for eight years. She's a lawyer. Been involved semi-directly with a national scandal. She turns hecklers into ground beef in seconds. She has been under one after another, assaults by the Republican Party for two years running; as they try one tactic or another to show she is guilty of....anything....something. 'Men's Health' Magazine has solidly ranked her in the top 40 "Toughest Men" for a decade now. Seriously? How brave does this lady have to before you consider voting for her? How many of the GOP nominees could fairly stack up to everything she has been though? Go ahead, give me the bullshit.... Since not a single one of them, or all together, could compare to her level of 'brave'. Its like comparing a guy with a club to an M1 Main Battle Tank in the US Army. quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 I don't know about Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden who seem to be pressured to run but is reluctant to run. Then why don't you learn? Or are you afraid have having your viewpoints challenged? Either Gentlemen would do quite a bit of good for this nation over the next eight years. Each in their individuals ways. Mr. Sanders is not only willing to state what he feels could/should be done for the nation's benefit; but how exactly to accomplish it. quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 Nobody else in the republican camp seem to be up to it. All of the GOP/TP candidates are weak willed individuals. They can not stand up to Mr. Trump. They try to play the political game of "Say mean stuff, but not mean enough that he doesn't give them money for their election". If they are not willing to go 'toe to toe' with Mr. Trump and call the man out; why should any of us think they got balls between their legs to stand up to the evils within the world? Why do you think Russia, Iran, and North Korean want a Republican/Tea Partier to win? Because Hillary would effectively deal with all three at once and ask for seconds! quote:
ORIGINAL: Greta75 Why not Michelle Obama? She's probably one of the best first lady US has ever seen. I am not a fan of Obama, but I love Michelle Obama as a representation of a modern woman on how one can be good mom, biggest cheerleader and supporter of her husband, just being there for her man, while still maintaining her independence and chasing her own dreams and making changes that she believes is good. I do not think she wants the role. She would do it out of duty for the nation as a whole. Now if only we could get a Congress full of people doing the same....
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