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ashjor911 -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 12:30:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

I'm with Ashjor on this one. The tone came across as mocking him rather than sincere, and that he somehow shouldn't be here. Personally I admire Ash for sticking to his convictions, and waiting for the right person.

needles


you know how to make a virgin blush [:)]




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 1:03:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

If that is your interpretation, that's your problem. A man saving his virginity till 60 is very rare. I am curious what motivates him. My questions were sincere.


And mine as well.
You didn't come across in the slightest as curious about his motivations, or sincere. You came across as mocking him for his idiocy of still being a virgin at this age, as if the only thing that's stood in the way of him is him being to dumb to figure out how to 'fix' the situation.
You also came across as proposing that the fact that he's still a virgin is somehow a problem, and something to be ashamed of, that he needs to change as soon as possible.
And lastly you seemed to imply in a very negative judgmental way that people who are asexual, or have diminish sex drive, or don't want to have sex at all (not saying those apply to you ashjor) have no place on a BDSM site and should just go away and let the 'grown ups' spend time together.

Might not have been what you meant, but that's how it read.



Agreed ^. And it's getting old watching Greta lapse into broken English when it suits her, after vehemently denying on an earlier post that English isn't her first language. This op from the start was a lame attempt to generate wank fodder.




NorthernGent -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 1:06:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

When you had your dick in a vagina for the first time in your life.

I just watched this awesome Canadian Movie Teen Lust.

And the boy describes it as, "It's like a foot in a socks."

And the person questioning him says that, his definitely still a virgin by his response.

For me, it's like, HUH? It's not like that? Then what is it? How would other men describe it?



A complete waste of time. Didn't have a clue what I was doing. The way it is in my area is that lasses are a lot more mature than lads at 16 years old.

Didn't really enjoy it because in the back of my mind I was thinking 'what the fuck am I doing here' all the way through.

I say 'all the way'; I mean a few minutes at the very most.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 1:07:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

I'm with Ashjor on this one. The tone came across as mocking him rather than sincere, and that he somehow shouldn't be here. Personally I admire Ash for sticking to his convictions, and waiting for the right person.

needles


you know how to make a virgin blush [:)]


Ditto.

You and I have made very different choices in life, but I consider you as strongly in tune with, in charge of and uninhibited about your own sexuality as I consider myself of mine.
We obviously have different priorities and drives, but we both live in tune with our own nature without shame or remorse.

I consider you liberated from social constraints in how you express your sexuality, because sexual freedom doesn't equal sluttiness. It means to live true to your own self and your own desires, social pressure be damned, and that's exactly what you're doing.




ashjor911 -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 1:34:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

I'm with Ashjor on this one. The tone came across as mocking him rather than sincere, and that he somehow shouldn't be here. Personally I admire Ash for sticking to his convictions, and waiting for the right person.

needles


you know how to make a virgin blush [:)]


Ditto.

You and I have made very different choices in life, but I consider you as strongly in tune with, in charge of and uninhibited about your own sexuality as I consider myself of mine.
We obviously have different priorities and drives, but we both live in tune with our own nature without shame or remorse.

I consider you liberated from social constraints in how you express your sexuality, because sexual freedom doesn't equal sluttiness. It means to live true to your own self and your own desires, social pressure be damned, and that's exactly what you're doing.


are you single?
I know you are not .. but damn this is worth it [:)]

thanks for the kind words, I enjoyed what you wrote & if I said anything to make you upset I am sorry, I did not mean it on a personal level.
good day




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 2:36:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911

if I said anything to make you upset I am sorry, I did not mean it on a personal level.



No offense taken.

I consider our different of opinion on hookers to be akin to the difference between a graffiti/street artist who feels art should be free and available to as many people as possible and cannot be owned, and the arts dealer who considers art a commodity with a tradeable value.
Both positions have merit, and it's hard to claim either one is inherently morally superior to the other one... it all depends on where you're coming from.

I didn't feel like you were preaching to me over the choices I've made, which is why I made the comment to you that I did: I don't feel you deserve to be preached at either for the choices you've made.
Sexual liberation is all about having the right and ability to make whatever choices you wish to make regarding your own sexuality.






needlesandpins -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 2:54:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ashjor911


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

I'm with Ashjor on this one. The tone came across as mocking him rather than sincere, and that he somehow shouldn't be here. Personally I admire Ash for sticking to his convictions, and waiting for the right person.

needles


you know how to make a virgin blush [:)]


Aaawwww bless you xx :-)

needles




virginslaveboynl -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 2:54:52 PM)

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Missokyst -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 3:12:57 PM)

DANG IT!!
I really want to know what it feels like for a dick sliding into a vagina for the first time, but this topic has gone way off track.
Can we reel in please?

I know what it felt like for me as a female, it was OWIE. It was like I was being ripped apart and I tried my best to back away from it, though unsuccessfully.
Once he had entered it was sticky and painful. In addition I was not a happy camper about the entire encounter and none too pleased with my partner to feel any joy in it, so pleasure was not in the cards.

I often wondered how his experience was about it, given that my reactions were not encouraging.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 4:34:36 PM)


I have refrained from replying to your posts anymore, because I have realized that there is no getting past your narrow interpretation of everything you see and hear. You aren't normally judgmental or asinine, like some people on here that I no longer reply to. But it is frustrating to try and reason with you. But jeezus...

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Are you serious? What are you doing in a kink site if you are just waiting for sex after marriage?


No way you can spin this. This is judgmental. This is implying that someone is abnormal and doesn't belong here.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Yea, I love sex, not ashame of it.


The implication being that he is ashamed of it?

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911
what I am doing here .. well see under my screen name it says first class wanker, I am waking all over this site.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
So you have an addiction to wanking. Hmm..., I have met men like that. Wanking beats penetrative sex for them, even after they have tried penetrative sex several times. But nothing wrong! If it makes you happy, I am happy for you!


And this is another example of the error that you make in so many of your observations. You cannot tell context. Communication is more than just words. It is subtext, body language, context, tone of voice, etc. And whether it is from video or a written medium, you ignore all of that and go straight for literal interpretation. And therefore frequently misunderstand the context of a situation entirely. And your postings all over this forum reflect that.

In case you still haven't gotten it, he was being sarcastic here. He never actually meant that he came on here to wank. That is you not understanding context so you have misread what he is saying. As usual.

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911
really?

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Yes, because when you wank yourself, you can control your pressure surrounding your dick, but when you fuck a vagina, you are at the mercy of the woman who will control the pressure, whether she will squeeze you from inside or relax. So sometimes, the rhythm may not fit well, and they rather wank than fuck.


Still haven't caught on that he was being sarcastic and is no longer taking you seriously.

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ORIGINAL: ashjor911
I doubt that anyone would rather sleep with someone "as a hole" then to just fuck a vagina.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I am just explaining why some men don't enjoy penetrative sex in a vagina. A woman has a few other possibilities for penetration, so that is another subjective part. There was one regular here who infact said once that vagina penetration is the least exciting thing for him in sex with a woman.


At this point he has all but taken out a billboard, and you still don't get the picture.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I heard amsterdam whores are not a good initiation for sex, as they are like, too jaded, so I wouldn't recommend that either.

Yes, we know that you 'hear' all sorts of things. Time and time again you say 'a friend of mine from America told me...', and then you treat whatever your 'heard' as the gospel truth and make ignorant, blanket generalizations about the country. Or generalizations about some other country based on what you 'heard' about it.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
But from what I heard from other guys, usually the problem with paid sex from these professionals, is, they aren't, they are just going through the motions.

We are aware that you hear things.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Asking someone what they are doing on a kink site if they are waiting till marriage for sex is merely a question, a curiousity, not judgement.

You do know that there is a lot to bdsm that isn't about sex? I mean, not for me. But there are a lot of people who engage in bdsm without sexual interaction. So no, sex does not have to be a requirement to take advantage of this site.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
And he says because he enjoys wanking. Which makes sense to me now.

Still not getting it.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I think you have reading comprehension problems.

See above. ALL of the above.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
If that is your interpretation, that's your problem.

Apparently, its everyone's interpretation. Still don't see it?

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
First you said you never put your dick in a vagina before. I didn't believe your claim, so I asked if you mean it that you never had sex?

Now you are accusing him of lying in the first place. Nice.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Then you replied by saying you wouldn't get it on with a prostitute. I never suggest once that you get it with a prostitute. The scene that I told you about was how Saudis get casual sex. They aren't paid whores, but just genuine women who wants to get laid, and getting it done without getting in trouble. It's like a normal person in a regular society going out to a club, buy a girl a drink and hook up if they like each other.

So if you get paid for it, you are a whore. But if you don't charge for it, you are a genuine woman? Or normal? Interesting.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Anyway, pretty much, that's how everything went. No where was I insulting you at all.

You don't want to admit it, but yeah you did.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I've explained and clarified and apologised for hurting your feelings and if you are still upset, then I can't help you. You can simply stop corresponding with me.


No, actually you didn't. What you said to someone else was:

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
And if he had felt judged for being a virgin, I would apologise because that was not my intent

You were explaining to someone else that their interpretation of what you said was wrong. You never actually apologized to anyone. All you have done is try to explain how everyone is misunderstanding you.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Also, I actually respect prostitutes as human beings with a legitimate career, so I also didn't like how you spoke about them.

He was not the one who used the word 'whore', multiple times. He was not the one who differentiated 'paid whores' from genuine woman and normal women. That was you.

Your language is telling, even if you don't want to admit it.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Of course Ishtar has now clarified that it is possible to get a passionate sexual experience with a sex worker in Amsterdam, and with that new information, I would also retract anything I said about it not being a good idea for first time sex to be with a Amsterdam prostitute.

Nothing against Ishtar, but this is a good example of your how treat things you 'heard' as the gospel, and base entire opinions and posts on that. Before Ishtar said this, you were basing your beliefs on what 'all the guys' told you. And going on quite a bit about it. Now, 1 person that you don't even know has told you something different, and you are ready to invalidate 'everything' you 'heard' from 'all they guys' before.







UllrsIshtar -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 5:20:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Of course Ishtar has now clarified that it is possible to get a passionate sexual experience with a sex worker in Amsterdam, and with that new information, I would also retract anything I said about it not being a good idea for first time sex to be with a Amsterdam prostitute.

Nothing against Ishtar, but this is a good example of your how treat things you 'heard' as the gospel, and base entire opinions and posts on that. Before Ishtar said this, you were basing your beliefs on what 'all the guys' told you. And going on quite a bit about it. Now, 1 person that you don't even know has told you something different, and you are ready to invalidate 'everything' you 'heard' from 'all they guys' before.





And I missed this on a first read.

So to clarify: I didn't at all say that you can get a passionate sexual experience with an Amsterdam prostitute.
What I said (repeatedly), is that when it comes to hookers -just like with everything else- you tend to get what you pay for. A lot of the higher end girls specialize in what is called in the industry a "girlfriend experience". That means she'll kiss you, and laugh at your jokes, and fake orgasms, and cuddle afterwards (for as long as you've paid for) and pretend as much as she can that she's actually genuinely into you.
For some guys that's enough.

However, no matter how good the girl is at doing this, the girlfriend experience with a hooker is nowhere near as intimate, or passionate, or real as what ashjor's looking for.
It's still fake... even though it looks different than a "straight lay".

He's looking for a genuine connection, which you cannot pay to have with a hooker. If he'd go and see one to get his cherry popped while looking for an intimate bonding experience, he'd walk out highly dissatisfied and disappointed, no matter how good the girl is.




PeonForHer -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 5:46:41 PM)

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I really want to know what it feels like for a dick sliding into a vagina for the first time


For me it was worrying, mainly. I remember thinking: jesus, I'm putting something *inside her body*. How the hell does that *not* hurt? And I duly went on to misinterpret her appreciative noises (done for my benefit, whatever) ... stopped, shocked, and asked 'Are you OK?'.

But those were my thoughts rather than my feelings. It felt slippery. Slippery and warm. Yep.




Missokyst -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 6:44:44 PM)

Tight? Was there a barrier to get passed?




blacksword404 -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/1/2015 11:22:13 PM)

At the time it felt wonderful. But then what did you have to compare it to?

Pussy generally feel either fantastic or eh. With some in between. The more pussy you get the less important it becomes.

But it's not something that you can describe specifically. You can in generalities. It was warm, wet and tight. Another woman might be tight as a vise grip. Another might be as loose as a barn. You really would need a dick to understand it fully.




PeonForHer -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/2/2015 2:22:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Tight? Was there a barrier to get passed?


No barrier. It was solely about something going into her body ... which, in most other circumstances, would be wounding. As for tight - nope. I think that's a porn invention: no vagina has ever felt tight to me.




Cell -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/2/2015 2:42:05 AM)

I suppose it would depend on the foot and the sock... But that definitely wasn't my first experience.
It was tight, somewhat uncomfortable and not very well lubricated. It was more like putting a foot into a upside down sock with the heal on top maybe... (To sum up, it wasn't great)




Missokyst -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/2/2015 9:14:58 AM)

[:D] LOL boy I really hope you are my x-husband




Greta75 -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/3/2015 12:47:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2
Agreed ^. And it's getting old watching Greta lapse into broken English when it suits her, after vehemently denying on an earlier post that English isn't her first language. This op from the start was a lame attempt to generate wank fodder.


English is my first language. But we have our own style of English here. Which I lapse into it alot. Also, my formal education ended at 12 yr old. So I think I'm doing pretty well for being educated in English up to 12. Anyway, it doesn't bother me if you think I don't speak English as my first language. If that is the reality you believe, it's totally fine with me.

And this isn't wank fodder. I think it's crazy that you think hearing a man describes how it feels like to stick his penis into the vagina for a first time is a turn on. Like, it's just normal conversation for me. I can never feel what a man feels as I am not a man, so I am always curious about the difference in how they process things and their sensation compared to me a woman. Sex with me is almost like an interrogation when men have sex with me, I ask them so many questions about what they are going through every moment.




Greta75 -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/3/2015 12:50:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Cell

I suppose it would depend on the foot and the sock... But that definitely wasn't my first experience.
It was tight, somewhat uncomfortable and not very well lubricated. It was more like putting a foot into a upside down sock with the heal on top maybe... (To sum up, it wasn't great)

Wasn't great because it was too rough?




Greta75 -> RE: Men, Describe how it feels like to (10/3/2015 12:51:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
no vagina has ever felt tight to me.

Wow! Even without lube? When it's dry?




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