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As for invoking RICO, I am not sure that is the appropriate action. I will admit that I don't know what is, but RICO. I don't believe 100% of what they say. Does that make me implicated in the RICO charge (if it were to be filed)? If it did, a huge percentage of the world (including some our our brightest scientists) would have to be on trial and in prison.
Its an unusual way of using RICO, but not unheard of nor sets a new not within the confides of RICO. RICO is used to prove the following:
If person A was involved in a conspiracy, that all the persons directly and even indirectly involved with Person A are guilty of the same conspiracy. However, proving conspiracy in the first place is very tough to do in a court of law. Proving it with RICO is much harder. One has to have a huge amount of evidence to get past the area of 'legal doubt. A jury has to be convince that there exists no reasonable doubt the person accused of the conspiracy was not involved. In RICO, if the people directly around that person did not turn them in for breaking the law or 'whatever the conspiracy is about'; they too, must be involved in the conspiracy to keep it secret.
As it relates to Climate Change, from a legal perspective, things become....dicey...
I'm going to try to explain how this process....might...play out.
We have a collection of scientists. This group is called 'Bob's Team'. This group gets it money indirectly from the Oil and Gas Industry (a corporation for example) by way of three to twelve separate systems to hide 'where the money is coming from' (before you laugh, this has been done a few times in other industries....). Bob's Team produces documents that basically say that Climate Change is a hoax and not even factually true. The media eats stuff like this up, particularly the conservative media in the nation.
Scientists upon hearing of this information go out and find the white paper(s) from Bob's Team. After studying them they decided to run the same tests and see what evidence is generated. When their numbers come up differently, they will test, retest, and test after that. But if there numbers are consistent, they will check with other scientists. When those individuals are getting the same results; often, they check with the scientific group that created the white paper. When scientists are asking other scientists "How did you get these numbers/data?", they are stating: "We have different results, could you explain to us how you got your numbers/data?" They are not asking in an accusation tone, but usually in curiosity. Maybe they did something, somewhere, not mentioned in the white paper Bob's Team gave out. Stuff like that happens all the time.
Now Bob's Team has to make a decision. If they explain how they found the information, the 'gig' is up. If they bullshit the process; that is just adding to the conspiracy. Sooner or later, scientists will figure out how Bob's Team got its numbers/data. This process could simply be through tinkering with the process, or reverse-engineering. Reverse engineering is asking "If I were to run this test, what would have to happen to get those numbers?".
Oversights do happen, and what might have been that 'discovery of the century' turns out to be Dave, the intern, not pressing a button when told. Does happen.
Yet, when the same group of scientists, keep stating information that is debunked, the question does get raises: Who the hell is funding them?
Better question is: Why lie about the science? It doesnt take educated people to put two and two together and arrive at 'the story': "Who has the most to gain from disproving the Theory of Climate Change?"
How does RICO get worked into this?
If one person on Bob's Team can be proved to have committed conspiracy against the United States and its people; then everyone on Bob's Team, including Bob, is guilty of conspiracy. Anyone directly working with Bob could also be found guilty of conspiracy. Which allows the justice department to serve warrants into any organization and person in connection to anyone in Bob's team. Doesn't take to long for the numbers to get tracked back to the corporation that was funding them.
Maybe scientists would like to research stuff for mankind, rather than spending their time debunking stuff from individuals that care more about money then science? RICO sounds like a good legal tool to do just that.
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