jlf1961
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YOu have questioned many aspects of the types and calibers of weapons I own...
This bit only just caught me. When have I done that? I've always freely admitted I don't know the first thing about guns and have no interest in finding out, either.
Maybe I misunderstood.
In all seriousness, I hold a masters in history, and traveled the world both in and out of the military.
Generally I have a very low opinion of humanity and civilization. Some things "civilized" humans do to each other is beyond comprehension, and does not speak well for the race.
History has shown that Republics, even most constitutional based governments are short lived in comparison to other governments. The problem lies not in the form of government, but what people do to it. Lets face it, humans complicate the simplest things, and in the end it is that complexity that dooms governments.
History has also shown that large numbers of humans sharing a limited living space are very unstable and unpredictable. If one thing severely impacts that status quo, humans resort to mob rule.
And it does not take much to set them off. The riots in London due to increases in college tuition is a good example, especially when you consider that the cost of higher education in the UK is still lower than most first world countries.
I saw first hand the riots in Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdicts. And it did not take guns for the numbers of injured and dead to go high. The video of a shop owner in South Central holding off a mob with a gun was both poignant and the historic norm, and it was not an isolated case. The stores that owners just pleaded to be left alone were looted and burned.
One thing about the people that make up an angry mob, no one wants to take a bullet so the rest can loot and burn.
Gun control advocates forget those periods in history, or they say it cant happen again. Well it has happened since the LA riots, in Ferguson MO, and Baltimore. Those injured by guns in those situations are not the norm, they are the exception, the people beat with rocks, clubs and bare hands are the norm.
Okay, so you (not you specifically) say "let the police deal with the mob." The problem with that is that, as I saw in LA, the police have no desire to go into the middle of the chaos. Police departments have a limited number of personnel, and during the Rodney King riots, South Central LA was pretty much a police free zone, officers were ordered out of the area to preserve their lives. When the National Guard arrived, they were ordered to take defensive positions around key locations. I saw a gas station with five armed guardsmen on the roof, a humvee with a Ma deuce parked in front with the belt in the 50 cal machine gun locked and ready to fire.
I watched police cruisers patrol in groups of five, and if they had to stop to render aid, 3 or 4 police helicopters circled over head, accompanied by a National Guard chopper with a trooper manning a belt fed machine gun in the door.
In this video, show me the gun
Insurance companies went bankrupt covering claims from the LA riots, those that didnt shot premiums to the point that many could not afford to keep the insurance, and insurance companies recommended guns to protect the stores and owner's investments.
People look at mass shootings and say that is a reason to get rid of guns. People forget the examples of LA, Ferguson, Baltimore where guns in the hands of private individuals saved lives and property.
Anti gun advocates only see the incidents that, in general are not the norm, and forget the rest.
And those people want me to give up my guns.
Aint gonna happen.
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