crumpets
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the artist's form and style is pleasing to my senses at first impression because I get more into the classical style of painting and sculpture where the human form is celebrated, where people look like people, where there is realism. So I'm a realist, more than an impressionist or a cubist, or whatnot.
As artwork, I must wholly agree with you.
You were the second lady to post the same artwork, in fact, as indicative of femdomme art that appeals to your senses.
It's a lovely piece of art, what with the gorgeous bodies of both the man and of the woman, and of the sense that the torn clothing and disheveled hair indicates something substantial has just occurred, along with the seemingly bad weather having just recently cleared up, with sunlight gleaming through what could be interpreted as rain. It's obvious that whatever they weathered does not seem to faze the two lovers in their passion for each other - or - perhaps - even strengthened their mutual passions.
It just has zero femdomme erotic impact on me, so, I'm surprised it's a something that more than a few see as an example of the genre. That's what is taking me aback. It's not at all what I had expected, but, it is what it is, so, I'm dealing with trying to understand.
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
His use of color is also pleasing to my senses, not only the color spectrum being highlighted, but depth of saturation.
Strange word "saturation", because I agree, it's very "blueish" and they seem to be "saturated" by something, perhaps it's blue water (rain?) but one can't really tell (at least I can't). Clearly they have been through a lot as the torn clothes show - but what? I don't know, but, all I know is that their love conquered all.
It's still not femdomme to me though ... :)
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
Human passion overrides the natural elements in a realistic atmosphere. They exist only for one another, for this moment in time they have carved out for themselves.
Nicely said. Your description of the "story" behind the art is better than mine, so, we can go with yours.
But, my confusion is that this is what you provide as a depiction of femdomme art that appeals to your senses.
I'm still struggling with the femdomme part ...
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
The focus is on the couple's embracing posture and their absorption in being locked in a kiss. They have not fully given themselves to one another yet, but they will. There is anticipatory excitement abuzz.
Again, you describe the storyboard of the art much better than I do.
I don't disagree with a single point you have said; I'm just trying to understand why this particular art is so indicative of the type that is being discussed.
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You fail to see that he is collared. I just noticed that she is also, subtly.
Actually,
I only failed to mention it. Like the previous artwork of 7 people sitting at the beach, there were myriad details that didn't seem to fit the overall storyline. The collar on his neck couldn't be missed - but - it didn't seem to be verified by anything else in the artwork.
However, I did miss the fact that she is similarly collared!
That does change a lot! They're BOTH collared? Hmmmmm... What does that mean?
It could mean they loved each other, instead of whomever it was that had collared them, and, that, perhaps, they escaped?
To conclude that though, I'd need some other clue of an escape.
Perhaps the torn clothing? The fact that it could be a rainy dark night? The fact that the sun is only now, long after the danger had passed perhaps, shining through the mist?
That SHE is also collared changes the entire dynamic.
Thank you for pointing out that which I completely missed (it was lost, to me, in the twirls of her disheveled hair).
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He is hers primarily.
That isn't clear to me, but, that they are lovers through thick and thin is very clear.
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What I love about the male figure is that he has animal sex appeal, and yet she has tamed him. This to me is Female Domination.
Ummmmm.... hmmm... that's a leap of faith, but, if I take that leap, I can easily see what you're saying. The male ALWAYS has the physical advantage over the female, just as a horse is physically much stronger than the female rider who sits astride him and commands him. Just as a horse is all muscle, while the female rider requires her dynamic personality to guide him, I "can" envision that in the artwork.
I didn't envision that.
But I can.
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
The lion-tamer, and yet it is by her sheer feminine sexuality that she has him enthralled. Her breasts are bared, but not because she is being sexually objectified by the male in the scene.
It is interesting that her breasts are basically "just there". For example, not only is he paying no attention to her bared breasts (his focus is on her, and specifically, kissing her with passion as his arms attest to as he grips her tightly), but they don't even touch his body, nor, strangely, does he have ANY sexual response whatsoever. This is passion. Pure passion. It's not sex.
Of course, having said the artwork is all about passion and not about sex, we must give a sly nod of the head to Luis Royo that he did insert (however gratuitously) her body depicted disrobed, as he did, and the fact that her hands are extremely well occupied in a sexual manner (perhaps indicating more of what is to come next, than what is happening at the very moment).
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
This represents that she is partially exposed, and is reaching down his crotch to expose that which belongs to her, that which she owns and claims the unspoken right to fondle or to help herself to.
I didn't at first (or second, or third) see it that way, but I do understand what you're saying.
In fact, since his focus is clearly on her, his manhood hasn't even had a chance to become erect, as far as we know.
Therefore, her hands, on him, down there, perhaps firming up that which he's gonna need in a few minutes, could indicate that FIRST there's love, and THEN there is SEX!
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
He is a fully mature male, not just in physique, but by the looks of his beard. His head is not shaved, but it is cropped short, as if he could be a captured soldier or warrior yet he could get away if he wished to. But he has no intention of leaving her side by the way he is grasping her.
I must agree. Both have no intentions of letting go.
His arms are clasping her body so tightly, it's as if he never wants her to go.
Meanwhile, she has signaled her next intention perhaps, by starting the inevitable process of mating, which requires an erection which isn't yet there (because he's not thinking of sex - she is).
In a way, you've convinced me, or at least you're well on your way to convincing me.
He loves her. She knows that. He just wants to kiss her. But she wants to go the next step.
So, she's leading the way, by grasping that which is the most male of any male.
She's in control of his next move.
That's Femdomme!
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You think because he has a hold of her and is drawing her towards him, that he is the Dominant lover. This is only because your mind has scrambled masculinity with non-submission. <loud raspberry> You interpret her feminine allure with non-Dominance. <louder raspberry>
I'm not quite sure what a "raspberry" is, but, I get your point. It's a valid observation.
I am slowly coming to the realization that SHE is, perhaps, the one controlling the NEXT move.
As far as we can tell, perhaps being too blunt with the point, his mind is NOT on his cock.
Hers is.
That has FLR meaning.
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
What you fail to apprehend is that masculine submission is sexy, not weak and pathetic. It is raw and powerful. She has a hold of him and is exerting feminine control. He is in no way overpowering her. They are being equally passionate.
Actually, while they are being equally passionate, I think she is controlling the next move, which appears, at the moment, to be the furthest thing from his mind - but - if she controls it - we know what the next move is.
This is a hint of femdomme, I agree.
And, in a way, slowly, marginally, that beings to appeal to me, since I'm a passive soul, by nature.
So, it has a small effect, which could grow; whereas, before you enlightened me, it had zero effect on me in the sense we're discussing.
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
Feminine Dominance in its fullness is enticing. She can choose to tease him and to fire up his lusts, to gratify him or to make him wait, to toy with him if she pleases.
It's beginning to dawn on me, that the artwork is enticing, in a femdomme way, in how she is controlling the next move.
But, without your lucid explanation, I would never have seen that in this art.
I'm rather simple. This is complex.
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ORIGINAL: dreamlady
The fact that you look for and expect the male figure to appear weak and helpless, totally out of control, or to be bowing and scraping like some lowly worm, speaks more about you than it does about FemDom art itself in all of its manifestations
You are quite astute.
And the better of me.
I have absolutely no doubt of the veracity of your statement.
You are wholly correct.
You don't know this, but, in contrast to the truth inherent in your statement, I'm physically too strong. In fact, I'm like a bulldozer. Very thick shoulders. Huge hands and feet. A chest that is often called "barrel chested", and, in my younger days, girls would ask if I could make each nipple shake on its own, and some would count the angled muscles to the side. Whenever I'm mountain climbing or with a group scaling ravines, I always go first because I just "bulldoze" through. I have the weight and strength and demeanor to crash through and make a trail for others to follow more easily. I don't pick my way daintily to avoid the poison oak or thorns; I just crash through (sometimes, when going downhill, we joke that I'm the human cannonball).
Yet, my mind is feeble, all the while my body is strong.
Most of my younger-day muscles are softly hidden now by a teddy bear covering of fat, but my strength is huge compared to any woman. If I stand behind most women, my shoulders would stick out far to both sides of her.
As you recognized, that's a problem for me, because my mind pales in strength to a dominant lady.
I pine for someone to take me by the hand and lead me.
To her, I am compliant. To her, I am meek.
To others, not in a femdomme sense, I am nothing of the sort.
So, I struggle with my male strength fighting against my male weakness when face to face with female dominance.
Female power. Female allure. I pine to worship such femininity.
But that's a topic of a wholly different thread, don't you think?
< Message edited by crumpets -- 10/27/2015 11:34:47 AM >
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