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Hillwilliam -> RE: Supreme Court justices predict next battle: Religious Freedom (10/14/2015 3:29:43 PM)
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ORIGINAL: crazyml
Yeah it's a crying shame that those pesky murder laws don't allow us to kill disrespectful children.
If you want to live in a theocraticy, change the constitution.
if there's a faith practice out there that wants to be able to "kill disrespectful children", I suspect you might be one of the very few who knows about it.
Deuteronomy" 18-21
The 'obscure' religions that only crazyml knows about are Christianity and Judaeism.
Quite a few people allegedly follow those.
Except for the detail that Christianity neither enshrines nor follows the whole of Old Testament law.
K.
Well, let's just toss out those pesky commandments, shall we?
Yaknow, the ones that Christians want on courthouse walls in a lot of the country.
as kirata alluded to and i can elaborate on---it would be very helpful if people understood the old testament, and the relationship between the old testament and the new testament instead of, in their hubris, claiming that Christians (and jews for that matter) "pick and choose"---as if you know something, have some insight into doctrine and faith practice that they are oh so clearly missing. the same can be said about the ten commandments.
that said, in this particular instance---Christians don't stone their children. Christians have never stoned their children. to suggest Deuteronomy as proof texts in support of the need to have "pesky laws" to prevent them from killing their children is utterly moronic. in fact, the new testament story of the "prodigal son" is exactly the case in question with exactly the opposite set of consequences.
and outside of that one particular place in time, jews don't stone their children, and if they ever actually did during that time there are no biblical accounts of it occurring. and you somehow think its civil law that prevents them? during the time in question, the land was Israel's.
more importantly, if they ever did indeed do it, they haven't since for many thousands of years.
you either can submit that today's jews then are blatantly disobedient to old testament law, or you can look for an answer that actually seeks to understand Judaic history. otherwise, you can just imagine schlomo and Rachel sitting around saying, "gee our son sure is rebellious, I wish we could stone him."
that said though--it wasn't the parents who stoned the offender, it was the "all men in the town" which points towards a court system. and just to point out, when you use the word "children"---they weren't talking about 9yr olds, they are talking about grown men.
its worth noting, though its not "children" specific, that muslims today engage in stoning and other forms of capital punishment for breaking certain aspects of religious law. if you want a faith practice from which to protect the general population by civil law, look there.
So, you pick and choose too.
Isn't there something in the Bible that says something to effect of "Follow the WHOLE book"?
Do you have any tats or piercings?
Do you wear cotton polyester blend clothing?
The same book that initially calls 'the gay' an abomination punishable by death also gives the death penalty for those.
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