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Lucylastic -> american justice. (10/11/2015 7:00:25 AM)

Pa. Judge Sentenced To 28 Years In Massive Juvenile Justice Bribery Scandal
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal?sc=tw&cc=share

A Pennsylvania judge was sentenced to 28 years in prison in connection to a bribery scandal that roiled the state's juvenile justice system. Former Luzerne County Judge Mark Ciavarella Jr. was convicted of taking $1 million in bribes from developers of juvenile detention centers. The judge then presided over cases that would send juveniles to those same centers. The case came to be known as "kids-for-cash."

The AP adds:

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court tossed about 4,000 convictions issued by Ciavarella between 2003 and 2008, saying he violated the constitutional rights of the juveniles, including the right to legal counsel and the right to intelligently enter a plea.
Ciavarella, 61, was tried and convicted of racketeering charges earlier this year. His attorneys had asked for a "reasonable" sentence in court papers, saying, in effect, that he's already been punished enough.
"The media attention to this matter has exceeded coverage given to many and almost all capital murders, and despite protestation, he will forever be unjustly branded as the 'Kids for Cash' judge," their sentencing memo said.
The Times Leader, of Wilkes-Barre, Pa., reports that the court house in Scranton was overflowing this morning. More than a dozen people who said they had been affected by the judge's decision stood outside, awaiting the sentencing.

Jeff Pollins was in that crowd. His stepson was convicted by Ciavarella.

"These kids are still affected by it. It's like post traumatic stress disorder," Pollins told the Times Leader. "Our life is ruined. It's never going to be the same... I'd like to see that happen to him" he said.





MasterG2kTR -> RE: american justice. (10/11/2015 7:24:23 AM)

They should have totaled up all the detention time he gave to those kids and made that his sentence. I'll bet it adds up to hundreds of years. 28 years is a slap on the hand for him. Is he eligible for parole? His personal assets should be seized and distributed to the families he wronged.



Lucylastic -> RE: american justice. (10/11/2015 7:26:31 AM)

Sadl;y he wont face the private prison system in all its ugliness.



Lucylastic -> RE: american justice. (10/11/2015 7:29:11 AM)

yes I realise this is from 2011.
Not the point.
The point is that the system is broken.



AQRMZ -> RE: american justice. (10/11/2015 9:12:22 AM)

In reply to Master G2kTR.

What the heck? Have you been reading my mind.

You are so right on this and the same for anyone in the socalled justicesystim that has fucked over folks, like all the guys doing, did, or got the death penalty

because of corruption with judes, lawyers or cops.

Find them, convict them, nail them with max time, no porole, seeeze all the assssits they ever touched (nothing hidden in wife's name) and put them nakid in a solitary 20' high concrete 8'dia tube and

let em eat gruel and shit in a hole in the floor

and one dim 10w bulb 20' up above

and no human contact at all period.


HEY GUY, YOU RUN FOR CHIEF JUSTICE OR ATTOURNEY GENERAL AND YOU GOT MY VOTE.


What do you all think about the DNA stuff that sits for years and could get innocent people out of jail. It is held for a variety of reasons the system says but most of the reasons sound like bull sh...t to me.

Tell us, what do you folks think and how could it be fixed soon?


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joether -> RE: american justice. (10/11/2015 11:25:08 AM)

There is that 'privatization' of the prison system in America. Helping to place more Americans in jail for a greater profit. Anyone up for an ethics debate here? Since there are many of these prisons, owned by private companies, that spend huge amounts on lobbying efforts to make penalties on everything. Makes the politicians look good for those 'tough crimes' like a bag of weed. Meanwhile, those bank executives whom nearly bankrupt the nation are still free men. When we look at the economic status of individuals in our prisons; its lopsided. The poor are the greatest population while the rich (whom have a greater responsibility not to fuck up) are the smallest. That a former white Vice President shot someone in the face with a shotgun gets a slap on the wrist; some black teenager does it, gets 25 years without parole.

That the prison industry can break and control a judge should be worrisome to any good American. I think this judge should be made an example of 'what not to do while on the bench'. Frankly, the inmates will do this character in. Its one thing to be an asshole to adults, its another to be one towards kids.




CreativeDominant -> RE: american justice. (10/11/2015 8:08:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

There is that 'privatization' of the prison system in America. Helping to place more Americans in jail for a greater profit. Anyone up for an ethics debate here? Since there are many of these prisons, owned by private companies, that spend huge amounts on lobbying efforts to make penalties on everything. Makes the politicians look good for those 'tough crimes' like a bag of weed. Meanwhile, those bank executives whom nearly bankrupt the nation are still free men. When we look at the economic status of individuals in our prisons; its lopsided. The poor are the greatest population while the rich (whom have a greater responsibility not to fuck up) are the smallest. That a former white Vice President shot someone in the face with a shotgun gets a slap on the wrist; some black teenager does it, gets 25 years without parole.

That the prison industry can break and control a judge should be worrisome to any good American. I think this judge should be made an example of 'what not to do while on the bench'. Frankly, the inmates will do this character in. Its one thing to be an asshole to adults, its another to be one towards kids.


Why do the poor have less responsibility when it comes to fucking up?

As for your crass comparison of Dick Cheney to a black teenager...here's what the man who was shot by Cheney had to say:

In 2010, the Washington Post sat down with Whittington, who admitted his apology was not a statement admitting any fault, but more "a sense of disappointment that it happened at all." Whittington brushed off the incident as an accident, "plain and simple."
"Naturally, people want to make it appear that it's someone's fault," Whittington said. "I didn't care. Plain and simple, it was an accident. It could happen to anyone."

Now Joether, why don't you bring us the case of a young black man who was...on a hunting trip...with his friend at the friend's ranch...who discharged his weapon into the friend's face...then got 25 years for it.



Termyn8or -> RE: american justice. (10/11/2015 9:50:48 PM)

This was years ago. I already said I would've boiled him in bacon grease.

T^T



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