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mnottertail -> The party of the right (10/13/2015 10:24:02 AM)

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/08/complaint-filed-23-house-republicans.html


If only people actually stood up and became more conservative...........or how does that line go?

Seems to me to be all thieves and goons and thugs down there.

And there are ethics investigations requests on Benghazi, Email, and so on.




CreativeDominant -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 11:26:24 AM)

Aren't you one of those always criticizing sources from the right? The tagline from your source states proudly: Real Liberal Politics

Yeah...no bias there




Lucylastic -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 11:31:05 AM)

Could be bias, but are the facts incorrect?






mnottertail -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 11:52:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Aren't you one of those always criticizing sources from the right? The tagline from your source states proudly: Real Liberal Politics

Yeah...no bias there

In this case, I doubted the nutsuckers would do the honest and constitutional thing, you know, there has been so many lies and shitbreathing over there lately for the last 30 years, but particularly this last 7 or so, you know all that asswipe you post on Benghazi and Emails and those sorts of rightwing lies you post all the time as *snicker* credible. So, I had to slum.

Nevertheless, it is filed.

http://americandemocracy.org/wp-content/uploads/3185_001-1.pdf




Lucylastic -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 12:09:02 PM)

heres some more bias...from drudge
http://www.drudge.com/news/192220/23-house-republicans-hit-ethics




tweakabelle -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 1:19:32 PM)

Conservative commentator David Brooks in The New York Times on today's GOP:
"Welcome to Ted Cruz, Donald Trump and the Freedom Caucus.

Really, have we ever seen bumbling on this scale, people at once so cynical and so naïve, so willfully ignorant in using levers of power to produce some tangible if incremental good? These insurgents can’t even acknowledge democracy’s legitimacy — if you can’t persuade a majority of your colleagues, maybe you should accept their position. You might be wrong!

People who don’t accept democracy will be bad at conversation. They won’t respect tradition, institutions or precedent. These figures are masters at destruction but incompetent at construction.

These insurgents are incompetent at governing and unwilling to be governed. But they are not a spontaneous growth. It took a thousand small betrayals of conservatism to get to the dysfunction we see all around.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/opinion/the-republicans-incompetence-caucus.html




cloudboy -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 1:32:34 PM)


I read that and thought he nailed it. But his point was that the GOP has been going down this nihilistic rabbit hole a long time, and the Faustian bargain of sucking up to the crazies (who don't believe in democracy or trust their fellow citizens) has come home to roost.

Take a look at any issue:

Immigration / Health Care / The Government Budget / Foreign Policy / Infrastructure

The "Freedom Caucus" makes sure absolutely nothing gets done ^^^ Planned Parenthood, Benghazi, Hillary's emails, and Obama vilification are all more important.

Fantasies like deporting 11 million residents, building a wall across Mexico, defaulting on the US debt, etc. substitute for reality.




Lucylastic -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 1:34:25 PM)

Add carson to the list, that guy is too brilliant to be so fucking crazy




mnottertail -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 1:37:55 PM)

NO WAY!






mnottertail -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 1:50:17 PM)

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Hillwilliam -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 2:02:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

that guy is too brilliant to be so fucking crazy

When I lived in the honors dorm as an undergrad, I found out that there is a fine line between insanity and genius. There are a lot of folks who hop back and forth across the line constantly.




MrRodgers -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 6:48:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Conservative commentator David Brooks in The New York Times on today's GOP:
"Welcome to Ted Cruz, Donald Trump and the Freedom Caucus.

Really, have we ever seen bumbling on this scale, people at once so cynical and so naïve, so willfully ignorant in using levers of power to produce some tangible if incremental good? These insurgents can’t even acknowledge democracy’s legitimacy — if you can’t persuade a majority of your colleagues, maybe you should accept their position. You might be wrong!

People who don’t accept democracy will be bad at conversation. They won’t respect tradition, institutions or precedent. These figures are masters at destruction but incompetent at construction.

These insurgents are incompetent at governing and unwilling to be governed. But they are not a spontaneous growth. It took a thousand small betrayals of conservatism to get to the dysfunction we see all around.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/opinion/the-republicans-incompetence-caucus.html

I read it too, today. Great opinion piece...hit the proverbial nail on the head.




Musicmystery -> RE: The party of the right (10/13/2015 7:36:37 PM)

There's an interesting piece in the Nation yesterday:

 "Why Today’s GOP Crackup Is the Final Unraveling of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’:
Tea Party rebels are exposing the deep rifts between country-club elites and social-issue hard-liners."
By William Greider

http://www.thenation.com/article/why-todays-gop-crackup-is-the-final-unraveling-of-nixons-southern-strategy/




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