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BamaD -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/27/2015 6:22:20 AM)
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
If I'm lying why are all the gun nuts on this board attacking me?
Because you are lying.
I'm being truthful and honest. You just can not handle it like a mature adult. Which is why the level of distrust towards gun owners/nuts is growing each day. You do not handle yourself like a mature, reasonable, rational, and responsible adult. So you try every which way to attack me, not realizing your not behaving the way you report to everyone to behave. The only people you are fooling at this point are yourselves.
I've been telling you that your thought patterns, your viewpoints, hell, even your arguments....suck! Your best argument BamaD is...."Fuck off, I like guns" (to quote Jeff Jefferies). Because a mature, reasonable, rational, and responsible adult, would realize quickly enough events in this nation are swinging from towards very heavy firearm regulation if not a ban. The number of people becoming distrustful of gun owners/nuts is sharply increasing. They see that Americans are getting tired of all the lame and bullshit excuses produced by the NRA and people like you. You, are one of the reasons which is motivating people to place those restrictions down into law. You can not even acknowledge it. That is what is called 'taking stock of one's self'. Can you even look at yourself, your views, and agenda objectively, BamaD?
I do not like the direct the nation is headed to on firearms. Liberals and moderates are well meaning and good people. But conservatives are ever becoming the most unstable group within the nation. I'm wondering if we'll have another 4/19/95. That you can not understand this concept is troubling. That the ones attacking me, can not understand this concept either is more troubling. You look at me as 'the enemy', not able to state I'm a fellow American whom has just as much right to how the laws in this land effect us with regards to firearms. The real enemy to the 2nd amendment is people like you BamaD. I regard you as a fellow American.
I understand your position. Would like to find the middle ground together. We both agree that criminals and terrorists should not be able to get firearms so freely. We both agree that a total ban on firearms is neither feasible or in our best interests. We both agree that firearms in the hands of private individuals does have some positive effect on lowering the crime rate. Unfortunately neither of us know by how much of a percentage point. We understand that individuals whom are compromised (i.e. mentally/emotionally unstable) should not have access to firearms. Nor should those whom beat their wives, intimidate fellow Americans with violence or destruction. We both agree that the current trend on firearms in our society is not making us a safer place for tourists to visit. Do we really need to have nations issue travel bans to our nation on account of gun violence?
So what is the real problem? People distrust each other. Gun Owners/Nuts distrust Concern Citizens/Gun Controllers and vise versa. If you and others on this board behaved liked mature, responsible, reasonable, rational, adults; would we have problems? No, of course not! We could actually have some healthy and deep discussions. We generally know where the other person's hard limits are and do not cross them. You do not want those sort of discussions. In fact any discussion on any topic more complicated than 140 characters, is way to complicated and complex for your minds to handle. Well, hate to be the one that informs you, BamaD. Things have gotten complicated and complex.
Is it really hard for you to be a mature, responsible, reasonable, rational adult?
The basis of our disagreement is very simple. I beleive, and this is confirmed by the writters, that the 2nd is and individual right.
You believe that it is a quid pro quo privilage created and agreed to by only one of the parties involved.
You call it a right, but by your definition it is nothing but a privilage.
You keep saying we need to find a middle ground but seriously is there a middle ground between it is a right and it isn't?
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