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thompsonx -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:05:18 AM)
ORIGINAL: Kirata No pressure, it's a hard one. Take your time. Thank you for telling us that this was a piece by: D. Watkins is the author of "The Beast Side: Living and Dying While Black in America." He has been published in Salon, New York Times, The Guardian and other publications, and he is a frequent contributor on NPR, CNN, and elsewhere. He holds a master's in education from Johns Hopkins University and an MFA in creative writing from the University of Baltimore and teaches writing at Coppin State University. He was the winner of Baltimore magazine's "Best Writer" award in 2015. It is always helpful to know who said what,dontcha thimk?[8\|]

markyugen -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:06:34 AM)
The fear of having one's guns taken away is a castration complex. Read Freud.

thompsonx -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:11:06 AM)
ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Tell dear ol' Hilary to give up her Secret Service protection. Maybe then, I'll give a rat's ass about what she says about people giving up their weapons that they use for self defense. She couldn't give up the protection even if she wanted. Do you just open your mouth to change feet? That was not lp's point so why go there?[8\|] Next I would call your attention to rocafella being appointed vp and he declined s/s protection in favor of his own personal security team.

Real0ne -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:12:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDave501 We have the dubious right to keep and bear arms. Dubious? How do you intend to protect and insure the 1st amendment without the 2nd?

Real0ne -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:15:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Tell dear ol' Hilary to give up her Secret Service protection. Maybe then, I'll give a rat's ass about what she says about people giving up their weapons that they use for self defense. She couldn't give up the protection even if she wanted. Do you just open your mouth to change feet? That was not lp's point so why go there?[8\|] Next I would call your attention to rocafella being appointed vp and he declined s/s protection in favor of his own personal security team. he saw what they did to kennedy

Real0ne -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:19:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: markyugen The fear of having one's guns taken away is a castration complex. Read Freud. lack of fear on the other hand is self mutilation disorder, read any psychology book.

LadyPact -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:21:13 AM)
<fast reply> I'll make folks an offer. Any person who is willing to fly into Thurgood/Marshall airport, I will pick you up at the terminal, bring you to my home, and let you see for yourself. In exchange, during that time, you will field all of the phone calls that I get, read all of the emails that contain threats, drive the car that was sabotaged, and be scared to death that you aren't the person who will walk away. As frosting on the cake, I will make you comfortable while you sit down and peruse the printed up version of the ninety four electronic files that prove I have a stalker, and even in my own home, I'm not safe. For what it's worth, don't y'all just listen to people anymore? Folks you know? Chances are, you know someone in my position. Do you really want to take the firearm out of their hand that gives them the better chance to walk away?

Real0ne -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:28:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: SirDave501 And you've had to defend yourself with a gun exactly how many times? (military & police service exempted) If your answer is less than once then your argument is moot. While I'm no anti-gun nut be any means, your argument is a little like saying "I need a car with 1,000 HP in case I ever find myself at the local drag strip." We have the dubious right to keep and bear arms. But if you're going to defend that right you need a better argument than "I might, maybe need it to defend myself, someday". I admit to finding the position of some of the pro-gun people perplexing. On the one hand the pro-gun lobby insists that they need to their guns to secure themselves, families and property. Possession of a weapon apparently cures them of their insecurities, they tell us. Yet, OTOH, some of our resident gun nuts are in a permanent state of apoplexy over imagined threats to "take their guns away". Not even the 2nd Amendment enshrined in the Constitution, or the peculiar pro-gun interpretation placed upon the 2nd by SCOTUS seems to assuage their fears and neuroses. The NRA is forever advising gun owners of nefarious plots to "take your guns away". It appears that nothing will ever cure their fears and neuroses. The obvious conclusion is that gun ownership doesn't confer the security upon gunowners that they claim it does. when you can demonstrate to us that a magical 'kum by ah' model society truly exists with no fighting, coersion or force of any kind please let all the paranoid gun nuts know. The problem with antigun people is that they think because others protect them with guns, guns are not needed.

thompsonx -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:45:44 AM)
ORIGINAL: LadyPact I'll make folks an offer. Any person who is willing to fly into Thurgood/Marshall airport, I will pick you up at the terminal, bring you to my home, and let you see for yourself. In exchange, during that time, you will field all of the phone calls that I get, read all of the emails that contain threats, drive the car that was sabotaged, and be scared to death that you aren't the person who will walk away. As frosting on the cake, I will make you comfortable while you sit down and peruse the printed up version of the ninety four electronic files that prove I have a stalker, and even in my own home, I'm not safe. For what it's worth, don't y'all just listen to people anymore? Folks you know? Chances are, you know someone in my position. Do you really want to take the firearm out of their hand that gives them the better chance to walk away? Not to seem flipant but I would be tempted to take you up on your offer with a few conditions. First I think you are smokin' hawt so the "comfortable" offer is quite apealing...but no carving on me[;)]. Second I get to use my own guns(I know where they shoot). Last but not least does the individual in question need termination or can I just let him know he has been 'tagged' but not bagged?

ifmaz -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:51:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDave501 And you've had to defend yourself with a gun exactly how many times? (military & police service exempted) If your answer is less than once then your argument is moot. While I'm no anti-gun nut be any means, your argument is a little like saying "I need a car with 1,000 HP in case I ever find myself at the local drag strip." We have the dubious right to keep and bear arms. But if you're going to defend that right you need a better argument than "I might, maybe need it to defend myself, someday". Why does one have to justify or defend their rights?

thompsonx -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 9:57:31 AM)
lack of fear on the other hand is self mutilation disorder, read any psychology book. Cite please[8\|]

Real0ne -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 10:03:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx lack of fear on the other hand is self mutilation disorder, read any psychology book. Cite please[8\|] do your due diligence for a change.

BamaD -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 10:34:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Except Hillary and anyone who can't see the difference between a buyback and a mandatory buyback. www.rageandwar.com/?p=31944 Has the conservative propaganda machines FINALLY rolled out a response to all the sane arguments? About fucking time..... If you believe what Clinton states as the 'Democrats' game plan, then its fair to assume the following: A ) Conservatives want to shut down the whole of the US Government B ) Install a conservative President and conservative US Congress. Not to mention a conservative US Supreme Court. C ) Remove whole selections of the US Government like the IRS, EPA, and FBI D ) Cut the federal taxes and the budget in half while easily paying off the US Debt E ) Make a better healthcare system that works better than the ACA, costs half as much, and is efficient F ) Chopping down Social Security and Medicare Yes, I can go on and on here. The point here is, there is stuff you'll hear and its just to 'liven up' the base. And that's all it is. You can think in wild fantasies of it being true. But the moment you let those fantasies cross over to reality, do/say something against it; you might just be the catalyst that allows it to go from fantasy to reality. If that makes sense? Were is if you did nothing, it would simply stay a fantasy. Kind of like all those religious psychos whom think/thought they could predict the Rapture. Or Republicans whom stated if Obama was elected to a second term, gas prices would rise up to $6/gallon. There are fantasies and then there are realities. It wasn't said about Hillary, it was said by Hillary. The rest is just an attempt to distract from what happened.

LadyPact -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 10:38:34 AM)
Well, thanks, but I'm not hawt, pretty or thin. You know? The stuff that most folks make for criteria.

thompsonx -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 11:04:55 AM)
ORIGINAL: Real0ne ORIGINAL: thompsonx lack of fear on the other hand is self mutilation disorder, read any psychology book. Cite please[8\|] do your due diligence for a change. And the thine.[8\|]

thompsonx -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 11:10:33 AM)
ORIGINAL: LadyPact Well, thanks, but I'm not hawt, pretty or thin. You know? The stuff that most folks make for criteria. Ok so the pics are fake/old/next door neighbor[;)]...the shit you post here in the dungeon is pretty hawt.

bounty44 -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 11:28:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle I admit to finding the position of some of the pro-gun people perplexing. On the one hand the pro-gun lobby insists that they need to their guns to secure themselves, families and property. Possession of a weapon apparently cures them of their insecurities, they tell us. Yet, OTOH, some of our resident gun nuts are in a permanent state of apoplexy over imagined threats to "take their guns away". Not even the 2nd Amendment enshrined in the Constitution, or the peculiar pro-gun interpretation placed upon the 2nd by SCOTUS seems to assuage their fears and neuroses. The NRA is forever advising gun owners of nefarious plots to "take your guns away". It appears that nothing will ever cure their fears and neuroses. The obvious conclusion is that gun ownership doesn't confer the security upon gunowners that they claim it does. "Psychobabble (a portmanteau of "psychology" or "psychoanalysis" and "babble") is a form of speech or writing that uses psychological jargon, buzzwords, and esoteric language to create an impression of truth or plausibility." if that doesn't work for you, how about I just say your observation statements and premises aren't valid, so therefore neither is your conclusion.

thompsonx -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 11:41:56 AM)
ORIGINAL: bounty44 "Psychobabble (a portmanteau of "psychology" or "psychoanalysis" and "babble") is a form of speech or writing that uses psychological jargon, buzzwords, and esoteric language to create an impression of truth or plausibility." Comrade, isn't this what typically passes for a response from the ignorant?

CreativeDominant -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 11:53:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant In whose eyes? The founding fathers found it to be a satisfactory reason. You are quite aware that the 2nd amendment was stuffed up the founders collective asses by the slave holders who needed guns to keep the slaves in line. So why do you keep bringing this sad shit to the forum?[8\|] I'm well aware that's the way you and others prefer to see it, bless your pea-pickin' heart

jlf1961 -> RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. (10/18/2015 3:13:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle I admit to finding the position of some of the pro-gun people perplexing. On the one hand the pro-gun lobby insists that they need to their guns to secure themselves, families and property. Possession of a weapon apparently cures them of their insecurities, they tell us. Yet, OTOH, some of our resident gun nuts are in a permanent state of apoplexy over imagined threats to "take their guns away". Not even the 2nd Amendment enshrined in the Constitution, or the peculiar pro-gun interpretation placed upon the 2nd by SCOTUS seems to assuage their fears and neuroses. The NRA is forever advising gun owners of nefarious plots to "take your guns away". It appears that nothing will ever cure their fears and neuroses. The obvious conclusion is that gun ownership doesn't confer the security upon gunowners that they claim it does. What part of the following is imagined? quote: Clinton made the comments during a campaign stop in Keene, N.H., when an attendee asked about Australia’s 1996 and 2003 buy-back programs that collected roughly 700,000 banned semi-automatic rifles and other firearms. “I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level, if that could be arranged,” Clinton responded.

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