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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/23/2015 3:24:36 AM

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Not having a manual safety does not automatically equate to an increased risk of accidental discharge. They still won't fire unless you pull the trigger. And in the context of your comment about the additional time required to release a safety, I can tell you that there isn't any with the manual safety on a 1911. It's just a thumb-flick as your hand wraps around the grip.

Maybe it is like that in the movies but that is not how a 1911 works.

My bad, I wasn't clear. I meant here on Earth.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/23/2015 4:30:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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Not having a manual safety does not automatically equate to an increased risk of accidental discharge. They still won't fire unless you pull the trigger. And in the context of your comment about the additional time required to release a safety, I can tell you that there isn't any with the manual safety on a 1911. It's just a thumb-flick as your hand wraps around the grip.

Maybe it is like that in the movies but that is not how a 1911 works.

My bad, I wasn't clear. I meant here on Earth.

Here on earth the 1911 is a single action. That means that the slide must be put into battery to cock the hammer and a cartridge stripped from the magazine and fed into the chamber. None of that occures with just a thumb flick and gripping the weapon.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/23/2015 6:22:13 AM

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Not having a manual safety does not automatically equate to an increased risk of accidental discharge. They still won't fire unless you pull the trigger. And in the context of your comment about the additional time required to release a safety, I can tell you that there isn't any with the manual safety on a 1911. It's just a thumb-flick as your hand wraps around the grip.

Maybe it is like that in the movies but that is not how a 1911 works.

My bad, I wasn't clear. I meant here on Earth.

Here on earth the 1911 is a single action. That means that the slide must be put into battery to cock the hammer and a cartridge stripped from the magazine and fed into the chamber. None of that occures with just a thumb flick and gripping the weapon.

The 1911 is designed for safe carry in "Condition 1" (cocked and locked).

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 5:24:54 AM

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Just to lighten the mood:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you.

You are carrying a Glock cal 40, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.

What do you do?
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Democrat's Answer:

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!

Does the man look poor! Or oppressed?

Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?

Could we run away?

What does my wife think? What about the kids?

Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?

What does the law say about this situation?

Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it?

Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?

Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?

Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?

If I were to grab his knees and hold on , could my family get away while he was stabbing me?

Should I call 9-1-1 ?

Why is this street so deserted?

We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.
This is all so confusing!

I need to discuss with some friends over a latte and try to come to a consensus.

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Republican's Answer:

BANG!

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Redneck's Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click.... (sounds of reloading)

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

Daughter: 'Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?'

Son: 'You got him, Pop! Can I shoot the next one?'

Wife: 'You are not taking that to the taxidermist !

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 5:54:50 AM

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Fun. But again, just you inventing positions that don't exist, rather than addressing the issues that really exist.

School shooters don't single out victims by political affiliation.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 6:03:26 AM

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To some extent those positions do exist. If there weren't elements of truth in it then the joke, or any other joke wouldn't be funny.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 6:14:21 AM

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School shooters don't single out victims by political affiliation.

no, in reference to "schools"---they just single out victims (in places) they know cannot defend themselves....

places run, or influenced by, a particular political affiliation.

theres nothing new in what I just said, so one wonders why it has to keep being repeated.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 6:25:57 AM

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Wife: 'You are not taking that to the taxidermist !

LOL

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 7:29:08 AM

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As we are into the "joke" section of the thread, I thought you might find this amusing

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 8:06:14 AM

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I admit to finding the position of some of the pro-gun people perplexing. On the one hand the pro-gun lobby insists that they need to their guns to secure themselves, families and property. Possession of a weapon apparently cures them of their insecurities, they tell us.

Yet, OTOH, some of our resident gun nuts are in a permanent state of apoplexy over imagined threats to "take their guns away". Not even the 2nd Amendment enshrined in the Constitution, or the peculiar pro-gun interpretation placed upon the 2nd by SCOTUS seems to assuage their fears and neuroses. The NRA is forever advising gun owners of nefarious plots to "take your guns away". It appears that nothing will ever cure their fears and neuroses.

The obvious conclusion is that gun ownership doesn't confer the security upon gunowners that they claim it does.

The concept of some huge pro gun lobby is a nice smoke screen for the anti-firearm insanity. The NRA is an organization founded to train marksmanship and teach firearm safety. The NRA became political when a minority with controlling attitudes started an effort to criminalize the activities the NRA has been providing instruction for since its inception.

It is all a control issue. An individual is not capable of making life decisions in the eyes of some that consider the general population to be wayward children incapable and unprepared to decide anything for themselves. The changes to the educational system in the last three decades sure look like a good way to create such a situation.
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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 8:14:26 AM

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The concept of some huge pro gun lobby is a nice smoke screen for the anti-firearm insanity.

Please don't say stupid shit in public. Looks like the anti nuts are less than half as nuts as the gun nuts.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/gunned-down/how-loaded-is-the-gun-lobby/

This years figures are in, but opensecrets is down at the mo.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 8:51:07 AM

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The concept of some huge pro gun lobby is a nice smoke screen for the anti-firearm insanity.

Please don't say stupid shit in public. Looks like the anti nuts are less than half as nuts as the gun nuts.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/gunned-down/how-loaded-is-the-gun-lobby/

This years figures are in, but opensecrets is down at the mo.

According to the link, total gun-rights spending from all sources in 2014 was $28.6 million.

Michael Bloomberg Will Spend $50 Million To Fight The N.R.A. ~Forbes

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 8:59:37 AM

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As we are into the "joke" section of the thread...

People wouldn't carry a gun if they could find a holster big enough to hold a cop.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 10:21:57 AM

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As we are into the "joke" section of the thread, I thought you might find this amusing

Just how many people DID ole Chuck kill while he was a gun owner?

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 10:48:47 AM

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As we are into the "joke" section of the thread, I thought you might find this amusing

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 10:51:17 AM

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School shooters don't single out victims by political affiliation.

no, in reference to "schools"---they just single out victims (in places) they know cannot defend themselves....

places run, or influenced by, a particular political affiliation.

theres nothing new in what I just said, so one wonders why it has to keep being repeated.

See, in this country, school boards run schools, not "a particular political affiliation," and there's no evidence (that's the stuff reasonable people use to support their claims instead of just making up shit) to suggest anyone targeted victims because the place was, to their minds, "run, or influenced by, a particular political affiliation."

You've been carrying water for the right so long that you see political division everywhere you go. You probably buy foods only produced in red states, so you don't get those liberal vibes the government hides in the leftist foods.

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 10:56:04 AM

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As we are into the "joke" section of the thread, I thought you might find this amusing

So tell me then -- why are conservatives hot to ban abortion, gay marriage, illegal immigrants, funding birth control, voting without presenting ID in paperwork form, etc etc etc, if making things illegal doesn't work?

Again -- it's because when you guys talk about guns, you change the rules.

The technical term for that is "bullshit."

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 11:17:25 AM

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As we are into the "joke" section of the thread, I thought you might find this amusing

So tell me then -- why are conservatives hot to ban abortion, gay marriage, illegal immigrants, funding birth control, voting without presenting ID in paperwork form, etc etc etc, if making things illegal doesn't work?

Again -- it's because when you guys talk about guns, you change the rules.

The technical term for that is "bullshit."

As I mentioned elsewhere, I believe homosexual married couples should be able to defend their marijuana plants and adopted children with firearms -- a view I'm relatively certain is not shared by the Republican party.

Interesting that you believe anyone advocating firearm rights is immediately a conservative, however. Do you often see things in only black and white?

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 11:48:00 AM

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As we are into the "joke" section of the thread, I thought you might find this amusing

So tell me then -- why are conservatives hot to ban abortion, gay marriage, illegal immigrants, funding birth control, voting without presenting ID in paperwork form, etc etc etc, if making things illegal doesn't work?

Again -- it's because when you guys talk about guns, you change the rules.

The technical term for that is "bullshit."

Hmm...pretty general, MM. Are ALL liberals for-

A welfare state
Gun confiscation
Abortion
Illegal immigration
Gay marriage

I'm conservative and I'm against 2 of those, completely for 1, and for 2 of them with restrictions

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RE: Nobody wants to take your guns. - 10/24/2015 12:46:08 PM

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Fair enough.

So tell me...why do I keep reading "liberals this" and "liberals that" in these forums if you guys are so independent and free-thinking?

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