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Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/26/2015 8:28:44 AM   
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If Trump becomes Prez he is gonna start (more) wars, imo.. and not just with the ME either, imo.. I can't believe anyone could actually want him as the next Prez...

"“One hundred percent,” Trump said when asked by Jake Tapper on CNN’s “State of the Union” if the Middle East was safer under the ruthless dictators’ rule than it is now.

Trump said the situation in the Middle East deteriorated during the Obama administration.

“I mean, look what happened,” he said. “Libya is a catastrophe. Libya is a disaster. Iraq is a disaster. Syria is a disaster. The whole Middle East. It all blew up around Hillary Clinton and around Barack Obama. It all blew up.”

So what would he do differently?

“The Trump doctrine is simple,” he said. “It’s strength. It’s strength. Nobody is going to mess with us. Our military will be made stronger.”"


https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-wed-be-better-off-if-hussein-and-gaddafi-194807268.html

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/26/2015 8:39:26 AM   
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That is essentially Vladimir Putin's position, and it is largely correct. The USA has grossly failed in IRAQ, Libya, and Afghanistan.

Where Trump is insane -- is thinking that military might makes any difference in far off reaches of the globe where the native people don't share Western Values.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/26/2015 9:22:56 AM   
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That is essentially Vladimir Putin's position, and it is largely correct. The USA has grossly failed in IRAQ, Libya, and Afghanistan.

Where Trump is insane -- is thinking that military might makes any difference in far off reaches of the globe where the native people don't share Western Values.

The US should have learned that lesson with Vietnam but it hasn't.. it keeps doing the same thing and expecting a different result.. The US has made the whole world less and less safe.. and if Trump becomes Prez he will do it too.. the reason to strengthen the military (return of the draft?) is to use the military (on someone, perhaps even your own citizens)..

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/26/2015 11:14:22 AM   
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Mr. Trump is blaming it all on President Obama because look at the audience he's telling it to: white, male, stupid, ignorant, racist, and foolish. The sort of individual we have a pile load on this board whom are also conservative. Facts and evidence are irrelevant concepts to Mr. Trump's audience. They are even worst than a twitter post (of 140 characters). The audience Mr. Trump is seeking to get nominated by works with only sound bites and buzz words. A fifth grade book on US History is way to complicated and complex for these individuals to handle.

What has Mr. Trump shown for substance beyond his mouth so far in the process of being nominated by the GOP/TP? Nothing. That is what conservatives want in a US President. Someone that has no clue what the job role is, but has plenty of high octaine ego for the position. Which might explain why Congress is full of so many conservative losers whom are all talk and no substance (otherwise they would have passed a number of bills by now). The 'vetting' process for conservatives can be summed up as: "Are you more conservative than Ronald Reagan, our god of conservative principles?". Even though Ronald Reagan would never get nominated by the current GOP if he could run.

What makes matters even stranger is Mr. Putin of Russia and the folks in Iraq have simply laughed at the GOP. Neither of these entities take anyone running for the GOP nomination as serious individuals. In other words, electing them to office would make the nation weaker. Mr. Trump as a US President would not be taken seriously by anyone; foreign or domestic. None of the conservative agendas would get put into action. In essence, Mr. Trump is running to be a lame duck President. And he knows it! The guy is intelligent and he's making an argument that conservatives are apparently to dumb and moronic to understand. He's not running for their values or wishes. He's running to show them what happens when a tyrant says all the nice words their dumb minds drink up like a glass with Johnny Walker Blue Label from the 1930's. He is showing them that their values are shit, their outlooks are petty, and their sense of virtues are laughable. I wouldn't be surprise if just three days before Election Day, Mr. Trump bails out on account of not really wanting to be a US President.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/26/2015 3:00:01 PM   
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Trump is blaming the wrong person for the ratfuck in Iraq.
Is the ME safer (for us) under Saddam? Damn right it is. That was the first domino in the present catastrophe.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/26/2015 7:27:21 PM   
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Trump is pretty much an idiot, but he might have the balls to go against his advisors. They will be telling him to attack Iran. They have been paid by AIPAC to do that. No matter who sits in that chair, there will be not like a peanut gallery, but an elephant gallery always urging the attack on Iran because AIPAC has unlimited funds, provided by those who they use it to bribe. Israel is using YOUR TAX MONEY to BRIBE YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN. Got that ? I you don't got that, go to their website. ?they brag about how much they bribe, as they solicit donations from their lesser breathren to support their efforts. It is right fucking there.

Trump is too dumb to be bought and they have alot of trouble buying Presidents. If he was smart enough to amass the wealth of Putin, they would probably have to JFK him. But he can be bought because with connections they can really hurt him financially.

Conspiracy theories ? You know theory means REAL, conjecture means MAYBE REAL. I myself have been involved in little campaigns that result in someone having really really bad luck. You can do it almost without breaking the law, but you know me. I like expediency. You know that if you have two cars burn they will not pay off the second one almost no matter what ? You know what it is like to have to change a flat tire EVERY FUCKING DAY before going to work ?

So ow we have people, in the private sector, internationally based, who can definitely profit or lose due to policy decisions in most of the larger countries. What the fuck do you think happened ? Who said "Give me control of a country's currency and I care not who makes the laws" ? A textile merchant ? Well that is the official story whether you believe it or not. Cotton and wool n shit. Yup, and now the most conservative estimate of that family's worth is $230 TRILLION. Other estimates are easily double that and more. They simply do not know. Actually last time we heard from Evelyn, he said they were supporting Romney. The FIRST time in history any type of announcement of this sort was ever made as far as I know. Remember these are the family that screwed a shitload of Europeans out of tons of money by lying about the outcome of a war and buying bonds that they lied and said were worthless for pennies on the dollar. Remember that ?

Old money still prevails. And old tobacco money in the US was not in line with the reachings of the other old money so they got fucked. "You have to list how much nicotine", and of course every tobacco plant is different so they had to blend and make sure their stated figures were truthful, or face the wrath of the feds a little more. And later, they got accused of manipulating the nicotine levels, something they were FORCED to do.

See, it is a matter WHO has the money. They are on a campaign to make sure only the "right" people have money. Everyone else can have enough to live, but nothing else.

Bottom line, accept the socialist. Sanders cannot turn this place into India, he is not a King. Like Rand or Ron Paul, they could not make abortion illegal, even in two terms. Bush had two terms and was his party for abortion ? Fuck no. his party wanted it all shut down and damn the consequences because they are just as fucking stupid. My take on it is if you want to kill your kid do it and I will thank you for the bullet(s) saved.

Can you imagine, with already kids getting pregnant, if the only reason they had a kid at SIXFUCKINGTEEN was because they could not get an abortion, how well oved and nurtured that kid will be ? Like that couple who sued the hospital for not detecting Tay Sach's in vitro, sued for the whole cost of living for that kid for life. Now I want to see them look that kid in the eye and tell him that he/she would have been dead if they had their druthers.

But it does not matter. Animals eat their young, like if they do not smell right, or there are too many of them, or whatever. A homosapien female does not have the rights of a wolf out in the forest ? BULLSHIT !

But it is still murder. Don't like it ? Don't do it.

Anyway, I don't even know exactly what Sanders has to say about that, but he votes pro Woman alot. So if that matters to you, get Trump';s idea of huiman reproduction before voting for him. He might not toe the party line, he might sat go ahead and kill the little bastards, which would be good. But he is still not smart enough to be President. The last qualified President we had was George H W Bush, but the problem is he was loyal to the oil, not to us, not in the least. But he was COMPETENT. He knew more than his advisors half the time. Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, they are not competent in foreign affairs. Putin actually probably laughs himself to sleep at night about US Presidents, after fucking that hottie olady of his. The Chinese ? Well not only are they competent, they got a whole different way of thinking. Follow the money and YOU TELL ME which side is winning.

If the US wanted to start a war with China they would have to borrow the money from China. If the US wanted to start a war with Russia they would have to borrow the money. Nobody seems to have noticed the Russia and China arte allies now. They also wonder how Iranians eat with all our terrible sanctions, nnot realizing that Iran sells oil to Choina now FOR GOLD. No more petrobucks.

You think this shit brought Iran to the table ? BULLSHIT, it brought the US etc. to that table. Iran could not care less. Let me spell it out - THEY GOT OIL - that means sanctions will not hurt them. Look at little teeny Cuba and the EMBARGO and all the good it did. THE US INITIATED normalizing relations, and Cuba said "ok". Like when I used to quit a job, MY phone rang. the US is in a terrible position over all this shit.

A friend of mine was pissed off that Obama did not get all kinds of agreements out of Cuba, wait now, Cuba can take or leave the deal, fuck you. The US approached them, not the other way around.

"In May 2012, it was reported that the U.S. had declined a "spy swap" proposed by the Cuban government, wherein the remaining three of an original group of Cuban prisoners the US had convicted of espionage known as the Cuban Five, in prison in the U.S. since the 1990s, would be returned to Cuba in exchange for USAID contractor Alan Phillip Gross. Gross had been imprisoned in Cuba for providing illegal cellphone chips of a type used by CIA agents, which are designed to evade detection,[12] in addition to computer equipment, satellite phones, and internet access to Cuba's Jewish community.[13]"

From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Cuban_Thaw

So maybe they did make the first call. But they did not put alot on the table. And they turned down three or so of their own for one of ours. It doesn't sound like they are suffering all that much.

The only difference to the US average dude is that he will not have to order his cigars from Switzerland. (that is how it was done during the ban)

And Trump thinks he can negotiate AGAINST people. Yeah right. What's more, apparently since he has been in bankruptcy court despite inheriting a shitload of money he can't negotiate very well. Or he made the wrong choices and was negotiating the wrong things. One or the other which makes him unqualified. I could do a better job but I would have a shit ton of learning to do on foreign affairs. As much more well informed that I am beside normal people, I do not believe I am qualified at this time to lead one of the world's main superpowers alone in these times. So I would also use advisors. It is just in how you use them. They start talking push the button I start talking to someone else. This next war might be the last. You want that ?

Trump is a rich boy, and maybe his vanity makes him seek the seat. That in and of itself does not make him good or bad. But he should be at least as rich as Putin. And he is nowhere near.

Sanders on the other hand seems to have a different point of view. they are going to call him a self hating Jew because he is not in lockstep with do everything for Israel no matter what and all that shit. He is not getting his fair share of media coverage, and guess who owns the media. And now, after learning more about this Man, me, who has railed on Jews and Israel so bad as to almost get thrown the fuck of websites, might just vote for a Jew for President. the guy makes sense. I know he is a socialist by our standards but there is a certain degree of socialism needed in a society. Notice the same root in both words.

It is taken to a greater degree than I like but there are too many problems if we do not adapt. Crime, cannibalism, arson, shit like that. And he believes that a somewhat socialist society is compatible with personal gun ownership. No matter what your personal stance on it is, a President who wants to let the People have guns has got to be better than one who does not.

The last country Russia annexed was done by popular election. Can the US say that ? Does everyone know that the US funded the original insurrection in Ukraine ? Does everyone know that Porton Down confirmed that Assad did NOT use the gas, and that is why Obama backed down but his detractors of course used it against him, and suppressed the news that the reports were a lie ? That Obama did jot start a war based upon a lie is bad ? Might as well reelect Bush. If you like wars based on lies so much. And if you do, get thoust male children into the army ! Show your patriotism with the blood of your offspring. Show us how much you fucking care.

Motherfuckers, I am telling you if we could get together and just whack all 535 of them and be done with it we would be better off. I do not care what happens next. If it is actually worse, though unlikely, I guess they'll show me.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/26/2015 9:05:21 PM   
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At least Iraq and Iran under democratically elected govts. were peaceful and stable until the CIA began a history if muddling in their affairs, like taking down both govts. in the 50's and 60's. What, were they supposed to just forget ?

Now we send in drones almost everywhere, call their errors collateral damage while [they] call the innocents killed...US terrorism.

As I've written. W was the brother-in-law that totaled your car and burned down your house and now, everybody...blames you.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/27/2015 7:19:20 AM   
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Oh and BTW, it was the CIA that started shit in Libya. Qaddafi created out of almost nothing...the richest country in Africa. Go look at the history there and all of the benefits available to the Libyan people. Plus he did it on only 200,000 bbls./day.

The people never wanted him gone, the CIA did because he openly stated that he wanted to start an oil for gold exchange. Saddam wanted to start an oil for Euro exchange. Ergo...they both had to go.

You think the US govt. and the CIA gave a shit about their weapons ? That's why all of the unmitigated bullshit about nukes. That was supposed to scare the world and those lies worked splendidly. Think again, what Saddam had...he got from us. And it was perfectly ok to use chemicals on the Kurds and the Iranians.

So yea, the ME was fairly peaceful and stable and now it isn't...how 'bout that.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/31/2015 12:02:24 AM   
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Mr. R; Those weapons were African gold dinars. Qadaffi planned to destroy theUS economy. Not that he could completely but with the billions in holds of US currency he could have duped it all.

Saddam's weapons were US cash in the banks, THERE. They "confiscated" a shitload of money, that if gone into circulation would cause devaluation of the petrobuck. And I am pretty sure that they were pretty sure that he was going to put them into circulation.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 10/31/2015 6:49:18 AM   
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Mr. R; Those weapons were African gold dinars. Qadaffi planned to destroy theUS economy. Not that he could completely but with the billions in holds of US currency he could have duped it all.

Saddam's weapons were US cash in the banks, THERE. They "confiscated" a shitload of money, that if gone into circulation would cause devaluation of the petrobuck. And I am pretty sure that they were pretty sure that he was going to put them into circulation.

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You are on the right track but Qaddafi (Lybia) on his/its own...couldn't do much of anything. A few billion in gold and even at a max. of 200,000 bbl./day...not enough to even really move any market. Any additional liquidity actually introduced into the American economy now...now, would help us as one reason inflation is so low, is from the lack of it.

He admitted as much in a speech that he wanted to start a trend toward the ME and OPEC going to an oil/gold exchange. Now [we] can't have that and even said that the CIA would if he persisted...take him down.

The problem with all this gold fetish is, the biggest consumers (buyers) of oil...didn't have any fucking gold. All they have is US $$...the green-paper gold.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/1/2015 6:37:46 PM   
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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/1/2015 6:39:00 PM   
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"If Trump becomes Prez he is gonna start (more) wars"

What an entirely ridiculous comment.

You can love him or hate him (I actually don't have an opinion about the guy) but....that's just absurd.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/1/2015 6:42:13 PM   
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Wow....I just read the entirety of all the above comments.

What a bunch of absolutely uninformed people.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/2/2015 9:15:38 PM   
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Wow....I just read the entirety of all the above comments.

What a bunch of absolutely uninformed people.

You have a problem with my post ?

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/3/2015 2:47:19 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Wow....I just read the entirety of all the above comments.

What a bunch of absolutely uninformed people.

You have a problem with my post ?


Lemme look....brb.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/3/2015 2:53:20 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Wow....I just read the entirety of all the above comments.

What a bunch of absolutely uninformed people.

You have a problem with my post ?


Only this: "Any additional liquidity actually introduced into the American economy now...now, would help us as one reason inflation is so low, is from the lack of it. "

(Don't make no sense...mostly it's a grammar issue).

As in....from the lack of what? "Any additional liquidity/inflation is so low".....Yet....every knowledgeable economist knows....new liquidity raises inflation (now....the real question is....why....with a FLOOD of liquidity....has DEFLATION captivated most world economies.....nothing in economics history says this should be true...yet....it is).

Other than that....no.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/3/2015 4:09:07 PM   
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"You are on the right track but Qaddafi (Lybia) on his/its own...couldn't do much of anything. A few billion in gold and even at a max. of 200,000 bbl./day...not enough to even really move any market."

His idea was the African gold dinar. Real currency.

Bottom line - the US is shooting itself in the foot. They got sanctions against Iran, OK, now China buys oil from Iran for GOLD. Well that gotya somewhere dint it ? Now Iran has gold coming in while the US can't even come up with enough to give back to Germany held for "safekeeping". They "leased" it out. Now they might have to go do Mali to get it, after the French (who also owe Germany gold) starts some trouble there. It might not happen or maybe it is happening right now but is not on any news sources.

Remember Milesovic ? He was lawfully elected. The cadmium miners were infiltrated and organized a revolt. They were funded by foreigners, guess who. And when Milesovic tried to restore order it was called ethnic cleansing. Cadmium is an essential element (meaning it cannot be made) for the nuclear process.

They mined a hell of alot of phosphorous out of Viet Nam.

Why did they bomb Japan and not Germany ? Germany had natural resources to exploit.

Why don't they want Iran to have nukes ? Iran would never be so foolish to attack anyone unless their very existence is at stake, so who plans to put their very existence at atake ? Obviously those who want to keep them from having nukes. In fact, Iran might want nukes for self destruction and the People might just support that. If USian "freedom and democracy" comes there again like it did in 1952, or like it did to Iraq, they might just pull the pin and say "Try drilling for oil in a glass parking lot motherfuckers". I certainly would. Really, try drilling for oil in a lead suit in 100 degree heat.

If I were President I would GIVE Iran nukes. Israel would shit her little panties but the bottom line is they can't take Iran anyway so what's the difference ?

Sanctions ? Let's have a look at Russia. A half dozen people lost their money in world banks. Know what ? They do not care. I am sure that the Russian government simply declared that money accidentally destroyed and replaced it. And now, they stand to make even more money because they will have a new pipeline giving Gazprom plenty of business.

Yeah, it is working.

these fucking people in the US do not understand that they do not rule the world. It is the old English way back from when the sun never set on the empire. We got some serious players here. I read some articles recently, Russia not has missiles that go twice as far and three times as fast as anything we got. China has a parallel GPS system with their own satellites, and has practiced up with a weapon that can knock out a satellite from the ground. And Russia and China are making friendly.

What's more they do not spend $600 on a toilet seat so our military spending is almost moot. Nobody even wants those boat anchors they call the F-35, EVEN OUR OWN MILITARY. They do not want as many as they're getting at the verty least. their limitations make their usefulness very limited. What's more our planes are losing at dogfight practice.

And now a bunch of rebels or whatever in Syria took down a Russian plane ? Who built THAT ? It certainly did not come from the Syrian government, Russia is helping them. It came from the axis powers, US, UK and Israel.

the latter three are poised to become the target in the future. The US has not suffered much in the way of attacks on its soil, but has visited same on many countries. How fucking long does anyone thing this can go on ? Europeans are already sick of our shit, making them targets, Hymie Harper up in Canada, man they are talking all over the place about getting rid of him. He SHAMED their country with his verbal fellation of the Knesset. I know Jews who would spit on his grave. but he knows where the money is.

We are in for a hell of a show. We are looking at two major powers bolstering their military and not making it public. We are talking about a people growing weary of paying for all this shit and we are looking at the real possibility of loss. REAL. You think we can take Russia and China ? We couldn't even take Iraq, Afghanistan, Viet Nam. We're fucking dead.

And it is happening, I am reading alot of international news and Russia, China and Iran have been doing alot of talking. It is not hard to figure out what they're talking about. They do not want the US in control of nearby lands. They are having something akin to a Cuban missile crisis. It almost happened over the bases in Poland, but the US backed off.

And now in some parts of the world, Obama backing off in Syria is not misrepresented. Assad and compay did NOT use the gas because Porton Down, an expert in the field, found that the type of gas used was not what Assad had.

How did they know that ? BECAUSE THEY SOLD IT TO HIM.

This country is not on the side or the right or the good, never was. Supported dictators n shit, kill all kinds of innocents and call it collateral damage. Drones.

Oh, and now other countries are working on drones.

Know what ? In the US we had the first color TVs. We invented that. But when other countries got color TVs, they were of much better quality. Remember that. Dan, I can see it now, drone wars. Guys sitting in rooms seemingly playing a vodeo game but it is real, they are remote controlling a drone.

Until China knocks out our satellite communication. And Russia won't sell us any rockets to go fix them. If it is over the horizon dudes, it is not getting there. that means all our recn anymore. they guys will have to fly over there and report back verbally what is happening, while they have newer and better satellites that work, and we cannot knock out.

You want to play bully US ? you better start taking vitamins, steroids and be working out. Because the bully beatdown is coming.

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/4/2015 11:02:40 AM   
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China is buying gold to have enough poker chips for a seat at the economic table, they certainly are not using it to buy oil.


http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/26/news/companies/china-texas-oilfields/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/09/us-column-russell-crude-asia-idUSKCN0R81F720150909#FvHQJsryQUQv1Lmo.97

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/5/2015 11:04:12 AM   
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"If Trump becomes Prez he is gonna start (more) wars"

What an entirely ridiculous comment.

You can love him or hate him (I actually don't have an opinion about the guy) but....that's just absurd.

That is my opinion.. He is an idiot and just as stupid as Bush was and look what happened.. Bush started 2 wars (one totally illegal & based on lies) that are still ongoing (any end in sight yet?).. Trump flaps his gums before thinking, even worse than Hillary does (and I fn hate Hillary).. but hey, if he is spending all yer tax dollars on building a Great Wall down south & deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants then maybe he wont have the money to start a war (or as many of them).. he is dangerous (both for the economy & world) just like Bush was.. but hey, its your country, yours to fuck up (worse than it already is).. good luck, y'all will need it.. (no matter who you elect next)..

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As Anderson Cooper said “If he (Trump) took a dump on his desk, you would defend it”

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RE: Trump- ME safer under Saddam & Gadhafi - 11/5/2015 11:52:27 AM   
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Why did they bomb Japan and not Germany

I am pretty sure germany was bombed by the u.s. in ww2.

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