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ORIGINAL: blnymph

I d not know the legal situation in the USA but: such a "morality clause" would be illegal under European laws and the candidate fully permitted to lie if asked because the employer has no right to investigate about the private lives and activities of employees (unless of criminal relevance)

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ORIGINAL: blnymph
I d not know the legal situation in the USA but: such a "morality clause" would be illegal under European laws and the candidate fully permitted to lie if asked because the employer has no right to investigate about the private lives and activities of employees (unless of criminal relevance)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I just think it's ironic that a miami cop was fired because of 'morality'/ I lived there for 18 years and a huge number on that force are the scum of the earth.
If they would fire all the liars, thieves, murderers and druggies off that force, there'd be damn few left.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: blnymph
I d not know the legal situation in the USA but: such a "morality clause" would be illegal under European laws and the candidate fully permitted to lie if asked because the employer has no right to investigate about the private lives and activities of employees (unless of criminal relevance)

Oh, it certainly does work like that here. In fact, lying even on the application for employment can be used as grounds for dismissal. If an applicant has fudged prior employment record in the form of position, pay, title, or any of that stuff, an employer is within their rights to terminate. You'll find that even printed on most applications.

Morality clauses are perfectly legal here. Even in various occupations where it's not considered civil service. (Police, fire, etc.)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I just think it's ironic that a miami cop was fired because of 'morality'/ I lived there for 18 years and a huge number on that force are the scum of the earth.
If they would fire all the liars, thieves, murderers and druggies off that force, there'd be damn few left.

Personally a crooked cop bothers me a lot more than a cop doing porn....

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ORIGINAL: blnymph

I d not know the legal situation in the USA but: such a "morality clause" would be illegal under European laws and the candidate fully permitted to lie if asked because the employer has no right to investigate about the private lives and activities of employees (unless of criminal relevance)

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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula

Not true.

I have a morality clause in my contract (I'm a teacher) and if I breach that then not only do I risk losing my job I also risk losing my teaching licence.

It's standard for many public service professions, including police. It means there is nothing in our background that would put us at risk of being blackmailed, besmirch the reputation of our employer, undermine the trust placed in us by the public and potentially 'corrupt' our charges, among many other reasons.

Could you imagine a police officer being called to give evidence against a sex trafficker or a prostitute and it coming to light that they act in porn movies? Credibility shot to hell, case falls apart. The general public judges those in public service quite harshly, and those in a position of trust are held to a higher standard of perceived morality. It's something we accept when we take on those jobs.

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However, in reality it's completely different. Could you look your child's teacher in the eye if you'd seen them shoving a 12 inch dildo up their backside while simultaneously sucking someone's dick the night before?

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Similarly, can you imagine trying to teach trig to a class of teenagers who have seen you gangbanged and creampied on a porn channel? Trust me, that wouldn't work lol

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Actually we had a staff briefing the other week in which our new head teacher warned us about our behaviour in the local town, stating clearly that any teacher getting falling down drunk and behaving badly and being seen by a student or parent, then they would face a disciplinary panel

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ORIGINAL: Kreychec
...calling porn "immoral" is comical. I can't begin to imagine where this line of thought even stems from, religion? Yeah fucking goats in the desert is dope but god forbid two people having sex in a studio...

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

You are obviously naive enough not to have heard that hiring people of dubious background could (and often would) bring a reputable/respected business/service into disrepute and thus severely affect how things are viewed by the public.

So.... being a porn star, or axe murderer, or regular burglar/thief would not be the right person to employ as a police officer.
Much the same as an ex-pedophile or someone with a known dink/drug/violence problem would not be the ideal candidate for the position of kinder-garden teacher.

Quite often, your previous misdemeanours would have a direct impact on your employability for certain jobs.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: Bunnicula

Not true.

I have a morality clause in my contract (I'm a teacher) and if I breach that then not only do I risk losing my job I also risk losing my teaching licence.

It's standard for many public service professions, including police. It means there is nothing in our background that would put us at risk of being blackmailed, besmirch the reputation of our employer, undermine the trust placed in us by the public and potentially 'corrupt' our charges, among many other reasons.

Could you imagine a police officer being called to give evidence against a sex trafficker or a prostitute and it coming to light that they act in porn movies? Credibility shot to hell, case falls apart. The general public judges those in public service quite harshly, and those in a position of trust are held to a higher standard of perceived morality. It's something we accept when we take on those jobs.

I do understand the blackmail risk, however I find it odd that you can have a job and pay tax for that job, yet it's perceived as "immoral" - if the government isn't too proud to accept your tax for a legit job, i.e. you aren't doing anything criminal, then you shouldn't be discriminated for it.

I understand why you can't be a teacher, cop, etc. and at the same time a porn actor, however, if you've done porn at one time in your life and then you end up being a cop or a teacher, it doesn't make you morally inferior, at least not any more than the people who purchase said porn and recognise you.

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ORIGINAL: Kreychec

Morals are based more-so on individual views, the views pertaining to deigning pornography are not align with that of my own. I can only imagine these views stem from a religious and or over-socialized ideology. If you consider that to be vapid then please elaborate on why it is so.