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CreativeDominant -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 11:23:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

yeah, you are right, the far righting crazies in the US congress are far more devastating to the nation.

In your Kool-Aid-stoked fantasies, maybe. All of which as nothing to do with the OP. The OP notes that a legislature and a leader of a country are defiantly retaining the proclamation of "Death to America", despite recent deals made by our President to ease sanctions and begin using nuclear materials. If you can find ANYTHING similar such as "Death to Iran" being uttered at any Congessional meeting by ANY Congress member, bring it forth. Of you can find evidence of your beloved POTUS uttering it, bring it forth.

The rest is just B.S..




mnottertail -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 11:50:02 AM)

Oh, in your nutsucking hallucinations maybe.Has everthing to do with nutsuckers and their death to muslims rants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XHHvuEluhE
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/17/politics/donald-trump-obama-muslim-new-hampshire/
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/07/29/texas-state-senator-charles-perry-speaks-virulently-anti-muslim-conference-where-isis
http://www.inquisitr.com/992180/rand-paul-delivers-hateful-anti-muslim-speech/
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/17/gop_state_senator_islam_%E2%80%9Cis_a_cancer_in_our_nation_that_needs_to_be_cut_out/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/14/rand-paul-s-hate-speech-sounded-just-like-al-qaeda.html

Newt Gingrich defended Cain’s position in a Republican presidential debate, arguing that Muslims lie about their loyalty to the country and comparing them to Nazis. Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC), in an ad before the 2010 election, equated all Muslim-Americans with the terrorists who committed the September 11th attacks. Rep. Allen West (R-FL) claimed Muslims are naturally “wild” because God cursed Ishmael and his (Muslim) descendents. (any of this ring a bell, it wasnt on Faux Nuze I suppose so no nutsucker is aware of these things because it never even made nutsucker news blogs that this was one reason why nutsuckers lost AGAIN then, because they are fucking stupid)

And the net is rife with bush nutsuckerisms, claiming he will capture and kill the terrorists responsible for 9/11 as he invaded Iraq. And continally menaced the shit out of Iran.


I dont know how easing sanctions would have anything to do with their AntiImperialist stance, due to years and years of American Interventions in their country.

But its all in keeping with the OP. And you as usual have some blowholing, but nothing of import to contribute, just hallucinatory rants about your koolaide and nutsuckerisms




NorthernGent -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 1:17:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies.


Making deals isn't about making peace. And anyway, clearly, no peace was made despite the deal.

I am still of the belief that it is impossible to negotiate with extremist Muslims. And I wouldn't trust them to honour their end of things.




That may be your view but history wouldn't support it.

In the event you sat down and put a list together of the top 10 sly, conniving countries during the last 500 years then there is no way in this world that any Muslim country would be in it. They couldn't possibly compete with Western nations on this score.




dcnovice -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 3:23:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies.


Making deals isn't about making peace. And anyway, clearly, no peace was made despite the deal.

I am still of the belief that it is impossible to negotiate with extremist Muslims. And I wouldn't trust them to honour their end of things.

What's your preferred course of action?




CreativeDominant -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 4:27:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Oh, in your nutsucking hallucinations maybe.Has everthing to do with nutsuckers and their death to muslims rants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XHHvuEluhE
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/17/politics/donald-trump-obama-muslim-new-hampshire/
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/07/29/texas-state-senator-charles-perry-speaks-virulently-anti-muslim-conference-where-isis
http://www.inquisitr.com/992180/rand-paul-delivers-hateful-anti-muslim-speech/
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/17/gop_state_senator_islam_%E2%80%9Cis_a_cancer_in_our_nation_that_needs_to_be_cut_out/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/14/rand-paul-s-hate-speech-sounded-just-like-al-qaeda.html

Newt Gingrich defended Cain’s position in a Republican presidential debate, arguing that Muslims lie about their loyalty to the country and comparing them to Nazis. Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC), in an ad before the 2010 election, equated all Muslim-Americans with the terrorists who committed the September 11th attacks. Rep. Allen West (R-FL) claimed Muslims are naturally “wild” because God cursed Ishmael and his (Muslim) descendents. (any of this ring a bell, it wasnt on Faux Nuze I suppose so no nutsucker is aware of these things because it never even made nutsucker news blogs that this was one reason why nutsuckers lost AGAIN then, because they are fucking stupid)

And the net is rife with bush nutsuckerisms, claiming he will capture and kill the terrorists responsible for 9/11 as he invaded Iraq. And continally menaced the shit out of Iran.


I dont know how easing sanctions would have anything to do with their AntiImperialist stance, due to years and years of American Interventions in their country.

But its all in keeping with the OP. And you as usual have some blowholing, but nothing of import to contribute, just hallucinatory rants about your koolaide and nutsuckerisms
Actually, you are the one blow holing about some extreme Senator from Texas...and about what Bush said 15 years ago...and about Rand Paul, who is a nut job of a different sort (think Nancy Pepsi or Harry Reid from your side). You've yet to demonstrate anything equating to a majority of our Congress or your beloved leader favoring the chanting and maintenance of the position of ZArathustra to Iran".




BamaD -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 5:45:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

In fairness, though, Greta, I think the majority feeling in Iran is actually the much more moderate and reasonable view of 'Death to all Americans' rather than 'Death to America'.

That is reasonable and moderate, I hopethis was intended as a joke.




BamaD -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 5:50:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BOXMOOR74

PS My ancestors founded Jamestown and New Amsterdam (New York) for all religions. I of course apologise profusely for their treatment of slaves in the South over the past 350 years plus. Thackery Bullock was my best friend he has died and his skin colour was against him all his life. But to me he was always a good person.

News Flash. Slavery was abolishised in North America 148 years ago, South America 127 years ago, Africa, well when it happens we will let you know.




BamaD -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 5:54:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

yeah, you are right, the far righting crazies in the US congress are far more devastating to the nation.

In your Kool-Aid-stoked fantasies, maybe. All of which as nothing to do with the OP. The OP notes that a legislature and a leader of a country are defiantly retaining the proclamation of "Death to America", despite recent deals made by our President to ease sanctions and begin using nuclear materials. If you can find ANYTHING similar such as "Death to Iran" being uttered at any Congessional meeting by ANY Congress member, bring it forth. Of you can find evidence of your beloved POTUS uttering it, bring it forth.

The rest is just B.S..

And even if he finds someone who said it it still wouldn't be a national slogan, and you would never find the majority of either party supporting such an idea.




BamaD -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 5:56:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Oh, in your nutsucking hallucinations maybe.Has everthing to do with nutsuckers and their death to muslims rants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XHHvuEluhE
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/17/politics/donald-trump-obama-muslim-new-hampshire/
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/07/29/texas-state-senator-charles-perry-speaks-virulently-anti-muslim-conference-where-isis
http://www.inquisitr.com/992180/rand-paul-delivers-hateful-anti-muslim-speech/
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/17/gop_state_senator_islam_%E2%80%9Cis_a_cancer_in_our_nation_that_needs_to_be_cut_out/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/14/rand-paul-s-hate-speech-sounded-just-like-al-qaeda.html

Newt Gingrich defended Cain’s position in a Republican presidential debate, arguing that Muslims lie about their loyalty to the country and comparing them to Nazis. Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC), in an ad before the 2010 election, equated all Muslim-Americans with the terrorists who committed the September 11th attacks. Rep. Allen West (R-FL) claimed Muslims are naturally “wild” because God cursed Ishmael and his (Muslim) descendents. (any of this ring a bell, it wasnt on Faux Nuze I suppose so no nutsucker is aware of these things because it never even made nutsucker news blogs that this was one reason why nutsuckers lost AGAIN then, because they are fucking stupid)

And the net is rife with bush nutsuckerisms, claiming he will capture and kill the terrorists responsible for 9/11 as he invaded Iraq. And continally menaced the shit out of Iran.


I dont know how easing sanctions would have anything to do with their AntiImperialist stance, due to years and years of American Interventions in their country.

But its all in keeping with the OP. And you as usual have some blowholing, but nothing of import to contribute, just hallucinatory rants about your koolaide and nutsuckerisms

That shows a distrust of Islamists and does not include "death to Muslims"




Greta75 -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 6:09:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

What's your preferred course of action?


Continued Sanctions. Economical Pressure to make them comply.

Sanctions are now lifted. No USA prisoner of wars are released. WTF? And they get a few billion dollars? I thought US was broke? This is again more unnecessary stupid spending. No wonder the debt is never gonna be cleared.

On top of this, the deal just started and they already broke a ban, these guys are gonna find loopholes big time to circumvent this Iran deal, and on top of that, they are doing their own inspections lmao, this deal is the biggest joke, I love how Obama is patting himself on the back for "making peace" with Iran:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/11/us-iran-military-missiles-idUSKCN0S505L20151011




BamaD -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 6:40:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

What's your preferred course of action?


Continued Sanctions. Economical Pressure to make them comply.

Sanctions are now lifted. No USA prisoner of wars are released. WTF? And they get a few billion dollars? I thought US was broke? This is again more unnecessary stupid spending. No wonder the debt is never gonna be cleared.

On top of this, the deal just started and they already broke a ban, these guys are gonna find loopholes big time to circumvent this Iran deal, and on top of that, they are doing their own inspections lmao, this deal is the biggest joke, I love how Obama is patting himself on the back for "making peace" with Iran:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/11/us-iran-military-missiles-idUSKCN0S505L20151011

Actually, while I think it is a stupid agreement, what with the Iranians saying they are not bound by it and all, Iran gets the money because we freed up frozen assetts of theirs, not that we shelled out the cash from our treasury.




dcnovice -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/4/2015 7:34:13 PM)

Good points, thanks!




thompsonx -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/5/2015 4:06:01 AM)

I still don't know why that deal was made! Making deals with people who want you dead

Perhaps if you asked a grown up they might explain it to you.[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/5/2015 4:09:41 AM)

ORIGINAL: Greta75


Making deals isn't about making peace. And anyway, clearly, no peace was made despite the deal.

I am still of the belief that it is impossible to negotiate with extremist Muslims. And I wouldn't trust them to honour their end of things.


Perhaps you could point out the treaties that the u.s. has failed to live up to and contrast that to the number of treaties that iran has failed to live up to?




thompsonx -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/5/2015 4:15:26 AM)

If you can find ANYTHING similar such as "Death to Iran" being uttered at any Congessional meeting by ANY Congress member, bring it forth. Of you can find evidence of your beloved POTUS uttering it, bring it forth.


Does this ring a bell "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran" It was sung in public and all over u.s. t.v by ace mccain.




thompsonx -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/5/2015 4:18:54 AM)


News Flash. Slavery was abolishised in North America 148 years ago, South America 127 years ago, Africa, well when it happens we will let you know

So in your mind this exonerates all the u.s. slave ownere?[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/5/2015 4:20:42 AM)

And even if he finds someone who said it it still wouldn't be a national slogan, and you would never find the majority of either party supporting such an idea.

How do the two majority parties speak about n. korea?[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/5/2015 4:23:49 AM)

Iran gets the money because we freed up frozen assetts of theirs, not that we shelled out the cash from our treasury

We gave them back money we stole from them. Gee that was awfully kind of us don't you think?[8|]




mnottertail -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/5/2015 7:21:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Oh, in your nutsucking hallucinations maybe.Has everthing to do with nutsuckers and their death to muslims rants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XHHvuEluhE
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/17/politics/donald-trump-obama-muslim-new-hampshire/
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/07/29/texas-state-senator-charles-perry-speaks-virulently-anti-muslim-conference-where-isis
http://www.inquisitr.com/992180/rand-paul-delivers-hateful-anti-muslim-speech/
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/17/gop_state_senator_islam_%E2%80%9Cis_a_cancer_in_our_nation_that_needs_to_be_cut_out/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/14/rand-paul-s-hate-speech-sounded-just-like-al-qaeda.html

Newt Gingrich defended Cain’s position in a Republican presidential debate, arguing that Muslims lie about their loyalty to the country and comparing them to Nazis. Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC), in an ad before the 2010 election, equated all Muslim-Americans with the terrorists who committed the September 11th attacks. Rep. Allen West (R-FL) claimed Muslims are naturally “wild” because God cursed Ishmael and his (Muslim) descendents. (any of this ring a bell, it wasnt on Faux Nuze I suppose so no nutsucker is aware of these things because it never even made nutsucker news blogs that this was one reason why nutsuckers lost AGAIN then, because they are fucking stupid)

And the net is rife with bush nutsuckerisms, claiming he will capture and kill the terrorists responsible for 9/11 as he invaded Iraq. And continally menaced the shit out of Iran.


I dont know how easing sanctions would have anything to do with their AntiImperialist stance, due to years and years of American Interventions in their country.

But its all in keeping with the OP. And you as usual have some blowholing, but nothing of import to contribute, just hallucinatory rants about your koolaide and nutsuckerisms
Actually, you are the one blow holing about some extreme Senator from Texas...and about what Bush said 15 years ago...and about Rand Paul, who is a nut job of a different sort (think Nancy Pepsi or Harry Reid from your side). You've yet to demonstrate anything equating to a majority of our Congress or your beloved leader favoring the chanting and maintenance of the position of ZArathustra to Iran".



Uh, now you are nutsuckering as you usually are, the demonstration you required was one nutsucker saying something stupid about all muslims.

you can dissemble and nutsucker all you want, but look, we have plenty of hate speech from every corner of this country regarding Iran and muslims.

Its just talking, for keeping the feebleminded turgid. Dont shit your pants over it even more than you have been doing.




Termyn8or -> RE: Iran refuses to remove "Death to America" Slogan (11/5/2015 8:58:14 AM)

People do not seem to realize who started all this shit. And who is starting more. And lies about it. they lied about Assad's gas. They lied about Saddam's WMDs. They lied about Kosovo. They lied about Viet Nam. They lied about WW2. They lied to the Native Americans.

Nobody, and I mean nobody has attacked more countries than the US. Even Hitler. Even Stalin. If you took the death toll, how many has the US killed ? Are we catching up to the "holocaust" yet ? Once we get past that milestone then we can work our way up to our buddy Stalin.

If the south would have won, slavery would have been abolished anyway. Alot of people didn't like it already, and mainly the rich owned slaves. You know, if you are middle or lower class, what do you think of the rich ? Do you think poor White Men who need money and are willing to work like having slaves take what could be their jobs ? Fuck no.

But the south did not seek to take over the north, they sought to remove themselves from the union. That means the country would be divided. Do you realize just how much history would change ? We would not be big enough to get into WW2, but then would WW2 have happened in the first place ? Hard to say because the US' involvement in WW1 was very limited. But the economies were linked and they had the kind of bankers we have, who ran their economy into the ground. You think it was war reparation but contrare' mon frere'. So many variables it is impossible to tell.

But let's say WW2 happened anyway and there was a north US and a south US with limited military capabilities. Germany still would have lost. Russia would still claim a bunch of territory for their "Union".

Thing is, we would not have prodded Japan into attacking us, and I still do not understand why we fucked with them in the first place. Some asshole whitehouse advisor's brainstorm no doubt. Or more like a brainwreck.

That means Japan would not have wrecked us. What would happen with them and China, who knows ?

War has been going on since Man crawled out from whatever he was under. And you would think he would grow out of it, but greed is an addiction and addictions cause irrational behavior. I like my beer and pot alot, very rarely will I borrow money to get it, and I would never steal to get it. And I certainly would not invade foreign countries to get it, but the US does. And it is not only the oil.

Who could get such massive amounts of heroin into this country and not get caught ?

Who deposes and despises a group known as the Taliban which makes growing poppies for drug production a capital crime ?

What is two plus two ?

The 911 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, so they attack Iraq.

Start putting this shit together people, and start to support politicians who want to stop this madness, or it will be the end of you. You are going to die and so am I, but you might have kids. Do you give a shit about the world in which they are going to live ? Or not. Do you want your grandchildren to not be able to travel to about a third of the world because of where they were born ? US citizens are already targeted in many place in the world, and this is not the governments it is the people. People who have seen their relative blown up by our bombs.

Tell me one country that drops as many bombs as the US. And in a contemporary sense like after WW2, what country has killed the most ?

Which one ?

T^T




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