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PeonForHer -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/8/2015 4:27:10 PM)

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How many illegals are there in the US again?


How on earth would anyone know that? Do illegals go somewhere to register that they're illegal?




Wayward5oul -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/8/2015 5:10:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
It was totally unclear to me IF they had legal immigrant parents and were legally born in the US. OR did their parents do the illegal way, coming in illegally just to pop them out on US soil, so that their kids can become Americans.

Because they are complaining about Trump wanting to deport kids like them, I can only conclude their parents were illegals. And they were smuggled in. As Trump wants to deport all the children of illegals. Trump's pretty straight forward. He only wants to keep legal immigrants. And he don't consider babies on US soil illegally, part of legal immigration.

If they were legal, Trump policies does not include deporting them at all.

Their accent also doesn't sound very Californian, very strong Spanish tinge to it. How come people like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz who are hispanic also don't speak like that, but they sound American? They're legal Hispanic Americans.

I also find it very interesting there was plenty of Hispanic people on that YouTube channel, who were legal immigrants, showing support for Trump, because they felt it was unfair they had to do it the right way, and all these people doing it the wrong way are getting rewarded for their crime.

It just amazes me the huge camp on the left is for pardoning illegal immigration, basically, to continually embrace and accept illegal immigration. (And since people don't have to flash ID to vote in the US anymore to prove that you are citizen right? So I guess the Left are gunning for illegal people votes)

It's one of those World's gone mad thing! Let's just have open borders like Europe. See how that worked out for them.

Anyway, different culture, different school of thought. I cannot imagine anywhere in Asia where they will be as kind to illegals as the US. US is truly a very generous country.

OH DEAR GOD GRETA would you just stop talking?

I don't want to sound like an ass but it is so freaking fucking annoying watching you be so judgmental about a situation of which you are totally ignorant, and you are using ignorance about the US and its laws to support those judgments.





thompsonx -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/8/2015 5:16:35 PM)


ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

OH DEAR GOD GRETA would you just stop talking?

I don't want to sound like an ass but it is so freaking fucking annoying watching you be so judgmental about a situation of which you are totally ignorant, and you are using ignorance about the US and its laws to support those judgments.


Greta from singapore, who knows nothing of the laws and culture of singapore and all about the law in the usa would more likely be a rt wing sock from alabama[;)]




Wayward5oul -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/8/2015 5:32:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

OH DEAR GOD GRETA would you just stop talking?

I don't want to sound like an ass but it is so freaking fucking annoying watching you be so judgmental about a situation of which you are totally ignorant, and you are using ignorance about the US and its laws to support those judgments.


Greta from singapore, who knows nothing of the laws and culture of singapore and all about the law in the usa would more likely be a rt wing sock from alabama[;)]


I have no reason to believe that Greta isn't exactly who she says she is. I have no concerns about whether or not she is being honest. I am just beyond annoyed with her naivete and ignorance when it comes to the strong opinions she routinely expresses about the U.S.




thompsonx -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/8/2015 5:39:38 PM)

I have no reason to believe that Greta isn't exactly who she says she is.

Would you like a few dozen?[:)]




ifmaz -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/8/2015 7:31:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
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Their accent also doesn't sound very Californian, very strong Spanish tinge to it. How come people like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz who are hispanic also don't speak like that, but they sound American? They're legal Hispanic Americans.
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I'm sorry, what is "sounding American" exactly? Do people from New York "sound American"? New Jersey? Boston?

Do you also ponder why Morgan Freeman does not sound like the stereotypical black person or do you view the question as being a little bit ignorant?




MariaB -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 12:52:37 AM)

I was coming here to say something this morning but I see its already been said. All I can say is...thank fuck for that! This thread has to be one of the most cringe worthy things I've ever read on these channels.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 2:19:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MariaB

For those who suggest we deport the actors or parents of the actors in the video; do you get the point of what the video is actually saying?



I do get the point, actually.

The video is saying: "Fuck the rule of law. We have no use for it and we want a special exemption ... oh and my parental units are horrible examples of how to raise children".



Michael




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tj444 -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 8:04:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: tj444
easy peazy??? crossing dessert and putting your life at risk is easy peazy? seriously??? how about we drop you in Mexico and you try to cross that border.. risk your life, risk your children's lives, risk rape,.. they know they could die out there but where they come from is so bad that its still worth the risk..

How many illegals are there in the US again? And with American government always saying it's impossible to secure the border because it's too big. I would call that pretty easy peazy by the sheer numbers who succeeded.

dont you get that thousands of men, women, children have also died trying??? your comments are offensive to anyone with any sense of humanity..




thompsonx -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 9:38:25 AM)


ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


I do get the point, actually.
No actually you have made up what you wanted to see.

The video is saying: "Fuck the rule of law.

Actually it is you who is saying "fuck the rule of law" The constitution says if you were born here you are a citizen. Now if you do not approve of the constitution of my country then why do you live here. The door is wide open so please do not let it smack you in the ass on the way out.


We have no use for it and we want a special exemption ...


The only one calling for a special exemption is you seeking to keep the brown ones born here from being citizens.


oh and my parental units are horrible examples of how to raise children".

I have never seen you disparage south park in your post. Why is it that you approve of south park where children swear but not those who disagree with the donald?







kdsub -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 10:02:58 AM)

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Honestly, given how much hate there is in this country, why anyone would want to become a citizen of it is beyond me..


Welfare.




tj444 -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 11:15:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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Honestly, given how much hate there is in this country, why anyone would want to become a citizen of it is beyond me..


Welfare.

illegal immigrants dont qualify for welfare..




PeonForHer -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 1:15:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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Honestly, given how much hate there is in this country, why anyone would want to become a citizen of it is beyond me..


Welfare.


It's news to me that the USA has a great reputation for being easy and generous with welfare payments. Perhaps by the standards of certain South American countries ....




bounty44 -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 3:26:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tj444


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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Honestly, given how much hate there is in this country, why anyone would want to become a citizen of it is beyond me..


Welfare.

illegal immigrants dont qualify for welfare..


that doesn't stop some, if not many from getting it on their children's behalf:

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Illegal immigrants get little in the way of welfare or other taxpayer-funded largesse, according to Kirsten Powers...

POWERS: Geraldo, it is a complete and utter myth that illegal immigrants come and get welfare. You cannot get welfare unless you are an American citizen.

POWERS: They can't get food stamps, they can't do any of the things that people keep saying that they're doing. You can't get government benefits unless you are an American citizen -- period, end of story. I mean, it's just, that's the way it works.

[but...]

Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their America-born anchor babies.

Basically, the majority of households across the country benefiting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal [no differentiation unfortunately].

The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined. They include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the disabled, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), a nutritional program known as Women, Infants and Children (WIC), food stamps, free/reduced school lunch, public housing and health insurance for the poor (Medicaid). Food assistance and Medicaid are the programs most commonly used by illegal immigrants, mainly on behalf of their American-born children who get automatic citizenship.


http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2012/08/24/kirsten-powers-complete-and-utter-myth-illegal-aliens-receive-welfare-





bounty44 -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 3:33:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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Honestly, given how much hate there is in this country, why anyone would want to become a citizen of it is beyond me..


Welfare.


It's news to me that the USA has a great reputation for being easy and generous with welfare payments. Perhaps by the standards of certain South American countries ....


I just recently saw the headline to a link stating that most illegals that come here expect some sort of welfare.

bunch of stuff here that might bear you out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state

but it doesn't feel that way here I think...I don't remember the exact numbers but a fairly large percentage of the country is on food stamps and its possible for a single mother with a couple of kids to get more money from the government than she would from a moderately well paying job.




thompsonx -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 4:21:36 PM)


ORIGINAL: bounty44
that doesn't stop some, if not many from getting it on their children's behalf:

For the fools who never studied u.s. history those would be u.s.a. citizens dumbass



Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their America-born anchor babies.

For the fools who never studied u.s. history those would be u.s.a. citizens dumbass








thompsonx -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/9/2015 4:59:02 PM)

ORIGINAL: bounty44

I just recently saw the headline to a link stating that most illegals that come here expect some sort of welfare.

I just recently recently saw the headline to a link stating that you have your head up your ass all the time. But just like you I don't feel like citing my source.[8|]

bunch of stuff here that might bear you out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state


This from your cite:

"The charge of paternalism is chiefly made by the class that enjoys the largest share of government protection. Those who denounce it are those who most frequently and successfully invoke it. Nothing is more obvious today than the signal inability of capital and private enterprise to take care of themselves unaided by the state; and while they are incessantly denouncing "paternalism," by which they mean the claim of the defenseless laborer and artisan to a share in this lavish state protection, they are all the while besieging legislatures for relief from their own incompetency, and "pleading the baby act" through a trained body of lawyers and lobbyists. The dispensing of national pap to this class should rather be called "maternalism," to which a square, open, and dignified paternalism would be infinitely preferable.[41]


but it doesn't feel that way here I think...I don't remember the exact numbers but

You are willing to make shit up to fit your agenda[8|]. Have you ever considered bringing facts instead of opinions to a discussion?


a fairly large percentage of the country is on food stamps


Do you just open your mouth to change feet? Less than 20% of the u.s.a is on food stamps.



SNAP participation averaged, 45,480,644 persons in July 2015, a decrease of 29,507 persons compared with June 2015, and a decrease of 1,006,244 persons compared with July 2014.

http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/snapfood-stamp-monthly-participation-data/


and its possible for a single mother with a couple of kids to get more money from the government than she would from a moderately well paying job.

When you can't validate your insipid opinions it becomes abundantly clear that you are just making shit up. Put down the bottle bozo, learn to read. Or do you really think a minimum wage job is a "moderately well paying job"?




LadyConstanze -> RE: Leftist SuperPac ad attacking trump (11/10/2015 12:06:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

I have no reason to believe that Greta isn't exactly who she says she is.

Would you like a few dozen?[:)]


Not that I care much, but in general she seems to be a few fries short of a happy meal, so she might not be a troll and just generally a bit light on reality and brains.

I first thought language barrier, then figured maybe a troll, but no troll could keep up playing daft for that long, now I think the babysitter switches the computer on for a bit of peace and quiet.




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