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pandoravampire -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (12/15/2004 8:46:53 PM)

I am unable to claim that i too have NPD, or any other such official label. Mind you, having worked in psychiatry on both sides of the world, ive seen first hand, just how fickle these diagnoses are. Once that PD label is prefixed onto a person, then everything they say tends to be coloured, and not rosily by those of us there to help. Labels are pretty much subjective to culture i find.
But you having accepted that a collection of experiences have earnt you, solicited or otherwise the grand title of SNPD. That you recognise some pattern, and have mastered ways that work for you and yours is applaudable.
I apologies for assuming that bdsm was your lifestyle - clearly there are many alternative lifestyles. My knowledge is lacking. I have tended to concentrate on researching what alternatives pertain to me. Gorean is on the list to read up on, but as slavery is not something i would want to enjoy from either side, its on the back burner. My limited knowledge assumption that a more 'strict' form of D/s would provide more 'tools' for you to work with in conquering and living with NSPD.

I do not nor have i ever thought that others are below me. I stated that most Dom/mes i have interacted with do not seem credible for me. Do not inspire my submission. Nor would i imply that someone with a PD is not suitable for bdsm. I think in fact, that i stated the opposite, in that bdsm D/s in particular has much to offer. So does joining the forces, or other ritualised, contained lifestyles.
There are clearly though, some people who are dishonourable, who cause others suffering from their actions, on line or off. It is THESE that i judge as fools.

As previously stated, i meant no offense, i was genuinely intrigued by your thread. Thankyou for taking the time to address some of my questions.




MistressDREAD -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (12/24/2004 1:09:48 AM)

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Once that PD label is prefixed onto a person, then everything they say tends to be coloured, and not rosily by those of us there to help


You have been found GUILTY!! Of BEING HUMAN!!

I also wear the label of
Widow
Loveless
Mother
GranMother
Mullotta
Bitch
BBW
Minority
Artist
Writer
Know it all
Know nothing
Control Freak
Local Introvert
Longdistance Extrovert
Leader
Changeless
Honorable
Foodaholic
Spendthrift
Ecclectic
Pragmatic
Loyal
Mean
Prissy
Fat
Bent
Wicked
Survivor
Superior
CEO
BusinessOwner
Activist
Humanitarian
Simplistic
Arcade
Remorseless
Determined
Demonic
BeautifullyWeird
Sacrificial Eucharist
Egodystonic
Artistice compositional
Social Individualist
Enviromentalist
Farmer
Contractor
Daughter
Monster
Elaborator
Sloppy
Hoarder
Holistic
Levitator
Stupid
Antagonist
RelicRastifarian
Fatal
Turbulant
Poetical
Eloquent

And quite COLORFUL
for starters..................

I would never desire for ANY
to claim that which they are
not pandoravampire and your
words stateing that it is better to
hide that which one is only goes
to show a very vanilla way and
train of thought and arcade way
of training that you have fallen
into in YOUR psychiatry. I hope
that you do not fall on Your head
in that fall to rationalization.
~SMILES~
Welcome to MY WORLD!!
quote:

That you recognise some pattern, and have mastered ways that work for you and yours is applaudable

Thankyou HOWEVER I have Mastered Nothing Mistressed it maybe~
quote:

I apologies for assuming that bdsm was your lifestyle

No apoligies needed BDSM IS but One of My Lifestyles~~
quote:

My limited knowledge assumption that a more 'strict' form of D/s would provide more 'tools' for you to work with in conquering and living with NSPD

I live with much worse things then NSPD.
quote:

There are clearly though, some people who are dishonourable, who cause others suffering from their actions, on line or off. It is THESE that i judge as fools.

Those whom give suffering are not always fools nor dishonourable online nor off tho.
I dont Judge, I critique!! ~smiles~
Everyone here is here for a reason and most learn in that reasoning even Me pandoravampire.
Well actually I came here to lend this great site sum excitment and COLOR! And run a few leval headed Men absolutly bonkers............**snickers**




pandoravampire -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (1/21/2005 9:00:59 AM)

Hello once again Mistress Dread.
I am glad to of been found guilty of being human, evidenced with a similar list of labels such as you have listed here.

Mastered nothing, Mistressed-perhaps. How politically correct of you. I stand corrected, if not contrite.

"i dont judge, i critique". Doubtful, very doubtful.

Quote:
I would never desire for ANY
to claim that which they are
not pandoravampire and your
words stateing that it is better to
hide that which one is only goes
to show a very vanilla way and
train of thought and arcade way
of training that you have fallen
into in YOUR psychiatry. I hope
that you do not fall on Your head
in that fall to rationalization.
~SMILES~
Welcome to MY WORLD!!

My thinking, i would expect to be very vanilla in its style, as stated, im new to this lifestyle, and therefor have a vanilla cognitive style. But that is changing *smiles*.

My training, as a cognitive behavioural therapist, is not archaic. It does not use drugs, rather the skills that exist allready within the client, so find their solutions, to their challenges. But i shall not defend psychiatry to you. Im rather anti myself.
Clients with a personality disorder, in crisis, usually in an emergency situation, often involving at least one of the emergency services, need someone to take control of the situation temporarily, whilst their own coping mechanisms are suspended, to prevent futher damage to the clients life being done. That is when psychiatry steps in. When the subclinical picture, becomes clinical. Someone has to look after these people, as they lash out, causing grief and mayhem around them, to those they love. I simply in this crisis, help put the fires out on bridges they are burning.
Someone has to do it, why not me? Someone who knows these patterns of behaviour well, someone who can see past the behaviour they are presenting, someone who's been there. Empathy, is a very valuable tool i find, beats sympathy hands down id say.

Fall on my head in that fall to rationalisation? - of course i have, shall and will continue to, in order to modify my attitude, opinions and beliefs. This is how I grow.

regards
pandoravampire, without capitals, without malice, without deference.



bottominwa -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (1/21/2005 9:19:51 AM)

Thank You so much Mistress Dread for this thread it was really fabulous reading this morning....

Fancy terms...well in Your original post You asked that W/we define Ourselves for the community....she hasn't the time just yet to sit here and even attempt it...but she has one humorous side note....she has OCD...not to the extent Monk has OCD but she has been diagnosed with OCD, and she falls prey to not only the cleaning frenzy of it at times, but also the bizarre superstitions and need for ritual which likely in many ways underly why she is so happy in a Gorean dynamic and a military Gorean dynamic at that, with its rigid rules etc. A place for everything and everything in its place. she is fond of saying "yes i am neurotic but atleast its a productive neurosis." LMAO.

she doesn't give much weight to voodoo doctors of the brain...W/we are what W/we are...regardless of how W/we got there....pondering the why too much tends to make O/one a victim...victimhood is entirely too melodramatic and selfish of an existence for this girl.

Be well,

sabrina King

House of King



sammie -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (1/21/2005 11:41:00 AM)

Dear Mistress Dread:

Everyone comes into BDSM for various reasons. Some whom I have met are nutters! Others find it a relief from the pressures of every day life. Once in a while, I meet someone who fits because they cannot excerise their personality outside of BDSM. ...

For me, I have worked in an environment where I must make difficult decisions involving other people. My personality has never liked this task. I see the effects of those decisions on the lives of other people. Thus, I love D/s relationships! I can give-up that 'chance' to make decisions to another. I can trade them the power and authority in a relationship for the peace and quiet of my mind. Yes, they want to see that power work, test that authority, ..., but it is much less burdensome to me. It is like a drug as I relax afterwards!

On the other hand, I 'served' a Domme in a very intense ritual. She was a ballerina with a major company. She relaxed by having absolute control. We interfaced perfectly! The ritual served as her anger management program.

Each of us enters BDSM for various reasons. I stay for the enjoyment that it brings in that moment of relaxation. Some stay for the enjoyment of having a place to inflict pain upon another, but that is probably only a symptom of where they receive their enjoyment. I have served as a pain slut, oral slut, domestic slave, ..., but the emporia received as I relax is why I am involved.

Sincerely
sammie



pandoravampire -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (1/22/2005 4:30:44 AM)

I too have found this thread (lost it for a while in the middle then refound it) .

I so agree that we all come to alternative lifestyles for varying reasons.
I can fully understand the ballerina exact control as a way of relaxing, and for me now, the total submission of my will to another, cleanses me at the end of any kind of day. It is the place i feel most at home.

Voodoo drs to find out why we have what we have? its often irrelevant for me, its how i deal with things now that counts, not what i did at 14, 20, 30 etc. Looking back is victimish, forward is surviving, i agree wholeheartedly.
Besides which, 18 months of formal psychotherapy, well for a start, who's got that much bloody time? Not me, not most. And looking at the selection criteria these people have, most have to be well over it, before they are even accepted, i call that 'cooking the books'.

Much rather stay in and play me[;)]



liljoy -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (1/22/2005 6:59:52 AM)

i don't know much about Psychiatric mumbo jumbo stuff, i can't say i put much stock in the stuff.

i am hovever pretty good at reading people or so i've been told.

Dread i too applaude You for putting Yourself out there like this. Since You have i hope You don't take offence to my sharing some thoughts i've had about You? i find Your condtridiction of styles nothing less than amazing. No i'm not saying You are a split personallity. Just that from what i've seen of You on this board i see two very different sides.

Simplicitcally put i see Dread much like a rose.

i'll start with the thorns ecause that is the side that You seem to show most often.
The thorns are sharp, biting and cruel. Your bravado and bluster is all about the thorns.
The throns sere to protect the flower from damage,

Now for the flower which is not often shown.
i've seen this but a few times but it is a beautiful thing to see.
The flower i've seen in You is the kindness (OMG did i just use the "K" word in a discription of Dread?) ;)
i've seen the compasion and empathy of someone that has felt the pain that others are dealing with.

Last but certainly not least is the part that holds it all together. The stem.
If not for the stem the thors and the flowers would just be floating out there with little or no relation to the other.
This is the part that keeps You together and keeps You grounded... well to the extent that You are LOL.

i do wish that You would allow us to see the flower more often because of the beauty of that part of You and because tis the flower that keeps You reaching for the sky. i know that You will share that part only as much as You want. That is fine too because with every post of Yours i see that is all or mostly thorns i shall look for a glimps of the flower that i know is there.

This is not inteded to be an Ode to Dread or even an Ode to a rose. i'm not much of the kind of person to do an Ode to anyone or thing except to my Master. hmm perhaps i will do an Ode to Lazloe on my next post but i think i'll sleep first.

Just that i've had these thoughts for awhile now but hadn't had the opening to post them until now

lil_joy



realophelia -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (1/22/2005 7:04:20 AM)

quote:

Sexual Masochism:

Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving the act (real, not simulated) of being humiliated, beaten, bound, or otherwise made to suffer.

The fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

--Dr. John Grohol's Psych Central (nice site that summarizes all the DSMIV disorders)


I did some psychiatric testing when I first started counseling. I was told that I tested 'high' for masochism. (Not a real big surprise.) There was no diagnosis involved, however, because my behavior didn't interfere with my day to day functioning. My therapist was pretty good about accepting my sexual orientation and not trying to turn it into some sort of pathology, btw, even though he had no previous experience with a patient involved in BDSM.

~Ophelia



MistressDREAD -> RE: Psychiatric Alternate Lifestylers Personnas Defined.What personality do you hold? (10/19/2005 10:45:22 AM)

I dident get a chance to speak back to several
here due to the reched hurricanes but will
pass by and say something quick,

lil_joy
a lipsticked kiss on a sheet of blue tissue
with My favorite sent sprayed on it for
you. * bows and hands the gift over*

bottominwa
you can come and practice your productive
neurosis in My Homes any ol time! With your
Homes permission of course ~wink~

realophelia, pandoravampire, sammie,
thankyou all for the look inside you. [:)]


DREADS EYE LOOKING AT CHA



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