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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/13/2015 8:41:55 AM   
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how appropriate and timely is this thread given a quote by general douglas macarthur I just read in a section of a book I was referencing this very morning---and all the more in particular to left wing nut jobs who seem to be incredibly incapable of learning from history:

"in this day of gathering storms, as moral deterioration of political power spreads its growing infection, it is essential that every spiritual force be mobilized to defend and preserve the religious base upon which this nation is founded; for it has been that base which has been the motivating impulse to our moral and national growth. history fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. there has been either a spiritual reawakening to overcome the moral lapse, or a progressive deterioration leading to ultimate national disaster."

and viking, I cant say this for sure, but I believe the "political bigots" was aimed directly at you given your post...if not, it certainly should have been.




Silly shit like that why MacArthur never was Chairman Joint Chiefs, Or Supreme Commander US Army.

Spent a lot of time fucking around and sending Xtian Missionaries to Japan instead of tending to business, two failures in one, since he left most of occupied BY Japan in place (such as Vietnam, Korea...etc) which caused us great trouble thru the years.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/13/2015 8:51:05 AM   
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1)Uncontrolled and massive immigration

2)An entrenched criminal underclass to flourish largely unchallenged

3)Increase the national debt.

4)Start more foreign wars, antagonize other countries until WWIII finally happens.

5)Legalize hard drugs and gambling everywhere. Let people wallow in their addictions.

6)Automate more jobs and send more jobs to China or other developing nations so that more people are unemployed.

7)Put up as many barriers as possible for folks to improve their lot. Keep the rich rich and the poor poor.

8) Promote a culture that encourages short term gratification over delayed gratification and hard work.

9)Promote a culture that encourages people to despise all authority and do whatever they want whenever they want.

10)Don't invest in infrastructure. Let America crumble.

Which candidates are guilty of some of these things? Hehehe


Or condense your ideas down to just one: Hire Republicans.

Yes, every time we hire Republicans the economy goes to shit, we get into wars, ignore the domestic policies, and rape the US Constitution. Their 'religious' beliefs state they do not have to follow the rules of decency, morals, or just being a sane individual. In their minds, 'The Ends Justify The Means' in everything. They wear the Christian religion on their sleeve, since its a game to see whom can perform the most outrageous examples of the seven deadly sins. Corruption, is a big part of their activities; why help the vulnerable, homeless, hungry, and old; when one can line their pockets by giving huge sums of taxpayer money to mega corporations that hold little to no loyalty to the nation.

Which candidates are guilty? Pick any of the personalities with egos larger than Texas from the GOP/TP ticket. Three of them, Huckbee, Cruz, and Jindal were at a conference over this last weekend. The host called for rounding up millions if not tens of millions of GLBT US Citizens to be executed. The other GOP/TP candidates didn't attend on account of not having a good schedule, NOT, because the host was known for remarks like he gave over the weekend.

Vote Democrat if you want a good nation. Vote Republican if being a slave to megacorporations is what you want. Democrats are making the nation better, Republicans want to take us back to the 1950's. Democrats give a shit about the common American; Republicans care only about the 0.1% of the nation.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/13/2015 9:04:16 AM   
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how appropriate and timely is this thread given a quote by general douglas macarthur I just read in a section of a book I was referencing this very morning---and all the more in particular to left wing nut jobs who seem to be incredibly incapable of learning from history:

Macarthur???
Wasn't that the guy who pushed all of his aircraft together so the japs could bomb them easier?
Wasn't that the guy who got the 4th marines masacred at batan?
Wasn't that the guy who got the moh for loosing the phillipines to the japs?
Wasn't that the guy whose mommy went to west point with him?
Wasn't that the guy that the president sacked for insubordination?



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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/13/2015 9:19:31 AM   
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And that was his good points.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/13/2015 12:23:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

how appropriate and timely is this thread given a quote by general douglas macarthur I just read in a section of a book I was referencing this very morning---and all the more in particular to left wing nut jobs who seem to be incredibly incapable of learning from history:

"in this day of gathering storms, as moral deterioration of political power spreads its growing infection, it is essential that every spiritual force be mobilized to defend and preserve the religious base upon which this nation is founded; for it has been that base which has been the motivating impulse to our moral and national growth. history fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. there has been either a spiritual reawakening to overcome the moral lapse, or a progressive deterioration leading to ultimate national disaster."

and viking, I cant say this for sure, but I believe the "political bigots" was aimed directly at you given your post...if not, it certainly should have been.



Oh, you mean the General Douglas MacArthur who famously told off the Commander In Chief and wanted to launch a preemptive war against China? The guy who was removed from command for turning the Korean war from a done deal into a three year bloodbath? If that's your idea of learning from history, I'd say you have a few lessons to go yet.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/13/2015 4:05:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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20) Mindless Right Wingnut fanaticism
21) Klepto-corporatocracy
22) Religious zealots
23) Fox Noise
24) The Radical Right blogosphere / hatefest
25) Being seduced by Right Wingnut gloom and doom into believing nothing can or should be done
26) Disinvestment in education
27) Disinvestment in infrastructure
28) Wall Street
29) Big Oil
30) The Military / Industrial Complex




31) political bigots

oh the pot calling the kettle grimy arse LMFAO



Nah......She just felt left out.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/13/2015 9:42:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

how appropriate and timely is this thread given a quote by general douglas macarthur I just read in a section of a book I was referencing this very morning---and all the more in particular to left wing nut jobs who seem to be incredibly incapable of learning from history:

"in this day of gathering storms, as moral deterioration of political power spreads its growing infection, it is essential that every spiritual force be mobilized to defend and preserve the religious base upon which this nation is founded; for it has been that base which has been the motivating impulse to our moral and national growth. history fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. there has been either a spiritual reawakening to overcome the moral lapse, or a progressive deterioration leading to ultimate national disaster."

and viking, I cant say this for sure, but I believe the "political bigots" was aimed directly at you given your post...if not, it certainly should have been.



Many would argue with you that most 'moral decay' began and was omitted from his speeches, long before Macarthur. The institutionalizing of the international banking cartel is a good start. Sending a civilian cruise ship to hostile waters getting the US in WWI, is another. The creation and then the destruction of union rights, is one although its creation was just beginning under Macarthur.

His and other elites abysmal failure to stop an din fact, profit from the creation of the military indust. complex. The failure to prosecute a real conspiracy for a military coup in the US during FDR's first term. The CIA taking down both Iran and Iraq's democratically elected govt. in 50's. and 60's although the latter was after Macarthur, it is my guess that the 'moral decay' of the CIA et al...never entered his mind.

And yes, don't go the the 'Russian Soviet Bear' ruse again. There is always an enemy around when you 'need' one. In fact, most of America's so-called enemies of the 20th century, were created by western banking and industrial elites and specifically for the purpose of profit, power and hegemony.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/14/2015 5:03:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

how appropriate and timely is this thread given a quote by general douglas macarthur I just read in a section of a book I was referencing this very morning---and all the more in particular to left wing nut jobs who seem to be incredibly incapable of learning from history:

"in this day of gathering storms, as moral deterioration of political power spreads its growing infection, it is essential that every spiritual force be mobilized to defend and preserve the religious base upon which this nation is founded; for it has been that base which has been the motivating impulse to our moral and national growth. history fails to record a single precedent in which nations subject to moral decay have not passed into political and economic decline. there has been either a spiritual reawakening to overcome the moral lapse, or a progressive deterioration leading to ultimate national disaster."

and viking, I cant say this for sure, but I believe the "political bigots" was aimed directly at you given your post...if not, it certainly should have been.





I am thinking putting #32 right after it would have been a clue but apparently it went right over the head.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/14/2015 5:04:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

20) Mindless Right Wingnut fanaticism
21) Klepto-corporatocracy
22) Religious zealots
23) Fox Noise
24) The Radical Right blogosphere / hatefest
25) Being seduced by Right Wingnut gloom and doom into believing nothing can or should be done
26) Disinvestment in education
27) Disinvestment in infrastructure
28) Wall Street
29) Big Oil
30) The Military / Industrial Complex




31) political bigots

oh the pot calling the kettle grimy arse LMFAO





do you have any links to back up that lie?

If not perhaps rudesub can help ya out. Not that I am going to hold my breath. You have implied shit about me before never to return with any back up, so why would now be any different?

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/14/2015 5:17:03 AM   
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aw Im sorry boi
why dont you look at your own post history.
out of the last 300 posts made in P&R how many have been you spitting up bullshit over lefty posters. Its pretty easy to get a percentage.
do your own homework
Ive given you the easy method



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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/18/2015 2:55:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

aw Im sorry boi
why dont you look at your own post history.
out of the last 300 posts made in P&R how many have been you spitting up bullshit over lefty posters. Its pretty easy to get a percentage.
do your own homework
Ive given you the easy method




You made the claim, you back it up or show everyone what a *****Ah ah! That's not allowed. Be nice or be moderated!***** you are.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/18/2015 8:52:35 PM   
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This from someone who lives in a third world country where the majority of people live on welfare

We have some of the best infrastructures in the world. Maybe you really need to update yourself with facts.

https://agenda.weforum.org/2015/07/these-countries-have-the-best-infrastructure/

US Fail to be in Top 10, we are Number 2.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/18/2015 9:02:49 PM   
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Adolf Hitler made a speech very similar to that one of McArthurs that you quoted bounty. I believe he made it back in 1923 or 24 but I would have to look it up.........the one thing he mentioned that Dugout Doug left out was the students rioting in the streets *smile*. I think at that time in Germany, EVERYbody was rioting in the streets *smile*

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/19/2015 3:11:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

aw Im sorry boi
why dont you look at your own post history.
out of the last 300 posts made in P&R how many have been you spitting up bullshit over lefty posters. Its pretty easy to get a percentage.
do your own homework
Ive given you the easy method




You made the claim, you back it up or show everyone what a *****Ah ah! That's not allowed. Be nice or be moderated!***** you are.


I'm sorry, didn't realize the rules had changed.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/19/2015 3:25:42 PM   
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What will destroy this country.

1. Letting people who don't live here dictate what we do.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/22/2015 4:22:24 AM   
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2. Letting people who DO live here dictate what we do.

Seriously, why do people give a shit if someone else has an abortion ? Far as I am concerned kill your kids. What's more, what's up with these liquor laws ? Bars have to close at 2:30, can't get booze on Sunday. Sunday ? WTF is so special about Sunday, even if it was a Biblical think that day of rest should be able to include a little inbibation. Plus the fact that it is supposed to be Saturday, some Pope supposedly changed it. One hell of a job to be ale to change the "word of god". The Jews have that one right. Actually not sure, do they take the whole weekend ? If so, they are on to something.

But that is all republican shit. There is also the democrat shit.

I do not care if you have gender issues, the government should not be paying for your sex change operation, especially when you have been convicted of murder. (they seem to have partly come to their senses on this, 3:2 ruling though, should have been unanimous - http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/no_taxpayer-funded_sex-change.html ) I don't care if your little feelings get hurt by words, grow a fucking skin. And I don't care about some fucking bug in the swamp that should be extinct anyway. Get to work on figuring out how to get jobs in this country, and NOT government jobs. (of course both parties grow government) And if I had a daughter in school I would not want boys allowed in the girl's room.

Sorry folks, but you're both wrong. I also don't care if your kids shoot each other with your guns, but when shit like that happens usually someone should go to jail. And I don't care if you wear your seat belt. I don't care if you got car insurance. I come from a time when you got car insurance because you bought a house. And though I have made money correcting such things, I don't care if you burn your house down by fixing the wiring wrong, just don't do it to anyone else's family.

They are all wrong. The closest to anything right is the libertarian party but I got problems with them as well. First of all I think when a business gets to a certain scale of operations it should be regulated very very tightly. they don't seem to like that idea and want the electric company to be able to arbitrarily triple their rates in the middle of air conditioning season. You cannot let business go unbridled like that because they are all run by a bunch of fucking thieves. they also want you to pledge non-violence and I will not do that. While I do not advocate any such action at this time, I will not rule it out in the future.

And if you think we are just going to walk up to the whitehouse with a few .357 Magnums and an Airsoft, be corrected NOW. Millions of guns in millions of windows all over the place. They will not be able to collect taxes, evict anyone for not paying them. They get a cal for a loud stereo and get dropped, and nobody knows where it came from. When you make that many enemies they will be all over the place. But they have not made enough enemies as of yet.

They are definitely working on it though. They have actually busted people for planning to kidnap and kill cops. How they caught on to this I have no idea. Someone must have run their mouth. How else would they know ?

But it is already a known fact that more terrorist activity, even in light of 911, is domestic in origin. What McVeigh did was revenge for a specific action of the government, he had specific targets. Does anyone else know this or are you all just on the bandwagon that he was a nut ? Or that the 911 hijackers were just nuts ? Fact is neither were nuts, they had been hurt by the US government and sought revenge, and pretty much got it didn't they ?

The main thing that is going to destroy the US is the US government. We got so many enemies these days that a US passport is not desirable. they have classes on how to act like a Canadian when abroad so as not to get treated bad or targeted. But now, Canada has a Prime Minister who sucks ass worse than any US President and is imperiling Canadians abroad with his blanket support of the Israel/US regime. Watch out Kanucks, when you get on that big jet airplane be as paranoid as USians, because being Canadian is no longer an excuse. And if Harper ever uses those useless F-35s, really watch it.

I have no reason to leave this country, at least as a tourist. If I had kids I would probably move to maybe Germany or something to get them a good education, but all that assumes I can find work. And actually that isn't going all that well in Germany anymore. Fuckers are too productive. They went to considering a four day work week full time and now people are bitching they can't even get that.

And you expect full employment here where people can't even read their fucking diploma ? Unrealistic to say the least. But things have a way of correcting themselves. Like the rich. Know what the rich need ? Money. they see not making money as losing money, because it is. Fiscal policy makes sure that each year that dollar is worth a little bit less. That destroys your saving, if you have any. I read that the US has among the lowest rate of savings in any civilized country. In fact personal debt is higher than in most places. And people say have a ten grand debt they are paying high interest on like a credit card, and if they even have that much in the bank and could pay it off they don't. And believe it or not, for some of them that is the right choice. It can happen in an economy that has been manipulated to death.

And what most people do not realize is that without quantitative easing, the market would have crashed worse than ever. worse that 08. Worse than 29. And no way to recover. Even if we get into a fucking war, we import some really important military goods, and I don't mean just Molex connectors. We can't build a rocket to get up to service our satellites, we buy them from Russia. Go ahead and try to take over Ukraine for that pipeline revenue, which is what they did. Wait until Russia says no more rockets, china uses their new anti-sat system and we not only got no sat recon then we don't even have GPS. But they will, they got their own parallel system now.

And it is the government. the people who support starting this ext war are brainwashed or whatever. We do not need this. I don't know where Sanders stands on this but every other possibility for President WILL start the war. Obama's one achievement has been to avoid it. People do not get it, we cannot engage Iran. Look what happened in Iraq. What's more, attacking Iran is going to bring some allies out of the closet, like Russia. Russia now has missiles that go twice as far as ours and three times as fast.

What's the matter brainwashed bullies ? Can't stand it when another tough kid come to your playground ? The fucking WORLD has been preparing to defeat the US. Russia, China, and even a few of our supposed allies build weapons SPECIFICALLY to exploit defects and weaknesses in US weapons. they are getting ready because they know that eventually the US is coming because the megalomaniacs are insatiable. Worse than Hitler really.

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RE: List of Potential things that could destroy US from... - 11/22/2015 8:45:45 AM   
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On the subject of it being Republicans that get us into foreign wars; one word, "Vietnam".

The pattern in the last 25 years doesn't line up with party lines. The pattern is more like

Large U.S. identified corporations move into another country for resources.
Large U.S. identified corporations piss off the locals.
The locals start destroying or taking over large corporation assets.
Politicians owned by large corporations start screaming we have to intervene in the small country for U.S. security reasons.
Someone comes up with an emotional reason for needing to help the poor little bitty country.
U.S. troops get there boots on the ground with many losing their lives.

And I say U.S. identified corporations because so many corporations identified with the U.S. are no longer really U.S. corporations. i.e. Exxon, General Motors, Westinghouse, General Electric, and many more.

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