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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 10:48:34 AM

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Sorry Tom is rubbing off on me.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 10:50:58 AM

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I never have, I have more often pointed out that certain aspects of con and rep are arseholes( usually the fundies and the crazies) . NEVER gone for painting the whole bunch.
Find ONE post where I have painted ALL conservatives or repubs as being the same.
screw you.
Unlike you who claimed we are all justifying those terrorist acts. just a page or so ago.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 10:55:42 AM

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Lucy...the whole damn bunch are assholes... Just like with the so called moderate Muslims... the average Republican or conservative lets the party do as they please as long as they have guns...and are against Gay marriage... and abortion.

You can add consistent to honest...lol

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 11:13:33 AM

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lol... I even quoted the report and you refused to believe it...

No you did not. You quoted from the one report on the cops not the second report on the city council et al.

don't give me the Ferguson crap... As for the rest... letting the people decide, which they did in an election, is the only true honest way to govern...

How many seats on the council were up for a vote? How many of the original council are still on the council...oh yes the ones who were not up for an election. They are still the majority. The two things you left out would seem to be more than a little disingenuous.

you don't like the result... move here and join in the politics.. Otherwise you have nothing to say about the choices of the people...never stopped you before though.

The truth is that the people replaced the one third of the council who were up for re-election. Which is contrary to what you posted.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 11:17:47 AM

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Yes I did... do a little research... your memory is failing I'm afraid

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 11:18:06 AM

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What you hear in this country is no different than what you hear anywhere... at least in my experience...we are no better or worse...I really do believe that we...meaning the US... are for more likely than most to speak our minds... I personally think this is a good thing.

How many visas on your passport? Tell us of the coutries you have visited around the world gathering this "experience"?

Just notice on the world scale how we are often looked down upon by Europe because of our honest world views.

Honest world view on the red menace? Honest world view on the yellow peril? Honest world view on the gulf of tonkin lie? Honest world view on weapos of mass deception?

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 11:20:15 AM

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Sorry Tom is rubbing off on me.

You couldn't be so phoquing lucky

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 11:27:37 AM

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HERE... then read your response... It is ok to disagree but when I say I quoted the DOJ don't give me the NO YOU DID NOT crap.

This is the last I will comment on Ferguson... you are just trying to divert from the subject when you do not have viable reasonable answers.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 11:42:55 AM

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This is what you said.

No... read report... THIS is what it said

"Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his
perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects
of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown
as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat. "

This is what I said:
No you did not. You quoted from the one report on the cops not the second report on the city council et al.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 11:57:27 AM

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Bull... I am the one that said I quoted... you said I did not... Even now you neglected to post your direct response to the quote in that thread...It is over move on you were wrong and caught with your bullshit... the next posts of yours will not change that. Try keeping to the subject of the thread instead of trying to derail it.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 12:09:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

What you hear in this country is no different than what you hear anywhere... at least in my experience...we are no better or worse...I really do believe that we...meaning the US... are for more likely than most to speak our minds... I personally think this is a good thing.

Just notice on the world scale how we are often looked down upon by Europe because of our honest world views... then when tragedy strikes you end up doing exactly what you disparaged us about. We see the hypocrisy but understand.

Butch

Well,.. I am not used to this level of racism.. sure, every country has some but what goes on here is scary (to me).. and quite frankly it makes me thankful to be white.. I know i wont be stopped by a racist trigger happy cop while DWB.. Until I came here, the number of black people I met I could count on one hand.. so black people in western Canada dont encounter the kind of racism there is down here.. same for hispanics.. for me its quite shocking.. and I never want to get used to it..

As far as comments about immigrants go, I dont feel wanted or welcome and I am white, fairly well educated, fairly smart, entrepreneurial and all that.. I "blend in" but yet I dont..

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 12:13:46 PM

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HERE... then read your response... It is ok to disagree but when I say I quoted the DOJ don't give me the NO YOU DID NOT crap.

This is the last I will comment on Ferguson... you are just trying to divert from the subject when you do not have viable reasonable answers.

Butch
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"Given that Wilson’s account is corroborated by physical evidence and that his
perception of a threat posed by Brown is corroborated by other eyewitnesses, to include aspects
of the testimony of Witness 101, there is no credible evidence that Wilson willfully shot Brown
as he was attempting to surrender or was otherwise not posing a threat. "

the DOJ determined it was justified

Not quite the same thing...and...you left out the part where the doj said "wilsons" testimony was contradictory.

Of course it is... it means Wilson's account was truthful and lawful... the purpose was to find guilt ... there was none... he was justified...vindicated in his defense of his life... remember if he were not in defense of his life he could have been charged... Now he had every right just as you to defend his life... That is justification to me.

Correct me if I am mistaken but didn't the doj have some issues with this punk's contradictory statements? Because you seem to be trying to potray this punk as totally blameless which is quite different than prosecutable. And quite different than the doj's assessment.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 12:14:35 PM

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It does make a difference where you are of course... Did you not say Texas? If so that explains it...

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 12:16:32 PM

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It does make a difference where you are of course... Did you not say Texas? If so that explains it...

Not just texas but houston texas...Yes I used to live there. srperate facilities for blacks and whites.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 12:29:08 PM

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It does make a difference where you are of course... Did you not say Texas? If so that explains it...

Butch

online comments are from all over the US tho.. so just cuz someone is in CA or AZ or any other state doesnt mean they arent just as racist as a Texan.. CA has had its race riots, after all.. and I would say it has less to do with where you are and more to do with the level of poverty of where you are.. If you live in a rich area you arent going to be faced with racism as much, but then those rich areas are predominately white so the only blacks or hispanics to be seen are maids, nannies, gardeners, etc.. if you need someone to take care of your kids or mow your lawn you arent gonna be nearly as racist in front of them or to them, now are you?

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 12:35:38 PM

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Then California... that explains it too.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 12:45:34 PM

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Sorry tj... I know you are serious and earnest and here I am making fun... but I am not... those states have problems that are affecting their lives... they are loosing jobs to illegal immigrants and this will naturally cause friction and give you a false impression. As for the friction between whites and African Americans that is more nation wide and needs to be addressed in honest conversation...not political correctness. But relations should not be judged by the radical fringe elements. That said let me say this... as in my examples of Muslims...and conservatives... there is also guilt in America, both black and white, by our refusal to address the real and perceived racism in America... but these are not bad people black or white.

Butch

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 1:21:25 PM

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Sorry tj... I know you are serious and earnest and here I am making fun... but I am not... those states have problems that are affecting their lives... they are loosing jobs to illegal immigrants and this will naturally cause friction and give you a false impression. As for the friction between whites and African Americans that is more nation wide and needs to be addressed in honest conversation...not political correctness. But relations should not be judged by the radical fringe elements. That said let me say this... as in my examples of Muslims...and conservatives... there is also guilt in America, both black and white, by our refusal to address the real and perceived racism in America... but these are not bad people black or white.

Butch

you see it as a false impression, i see it as how they really feel.. imo its not false at all..

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 2:19:59 PM

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Yea false was not a good word... Understandable would be better. In tough times economic competition will produce animosity.

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RE: Going for the spotlight... - 11/17/2015 2:46:55 PM

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Yea false was not a good word... Understandable would be better. In tough times economic competition will produce animosity.

There is not a lot of competition for picking oranges or cellery.

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