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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This happened last year...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nick-cruwys-boy-aged-13-5318707
nothing to do with women or grope or rape, just violence.
it isnt just women that get hurt by gangs of drunk men.
Which is actually what started this hijack..

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

nah if you witness it or are a victim of it, you are a liar,
apparently

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This happened last year...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nick-cruwys-boy-aged-13-5318707
nothing to do with women or grope or rape, just violence.
it isnt just women that get hurt by gangs of drunk men.
Which is actually what started this hijack..

Who said they were drunk?

And, still no evidence of women being raped or groped at football matches.
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This happened last year...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nick-cruwys-boy-aged-13-5318707
nothing to do with women or grope or rape, just violence.
it isnt just women that get hurt by gangs of drunk men.
Which is actually what started this hijack..

Who said they were drunk?

And, still no evidence of women being raped or groped at football matches.
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i am the evidence

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

nah if you witness it or are a victim of it, you are a liar,
apparently

In that case...

I deposit cheques at the bank at least twice a week, I have never seen a bank robbery in person, therefore I conclude all bank robberies are just fake...

Nobody ever burned my house down, never watched anybody burning anything down, what's all this talk about arson?

Never been on the dole, therefore unemployment doesn't exist, it's all fake...

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This happened last year...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nick-cruwys-boy-aged-13-5318707
nothing to do with women or grope or rape, just violence.
it isnt just women that get hurt by gangs of drunk men.
Which is actually what started this hijack..

Who said they were drunk?

And, still no evidence of women being raped or groped at football matches.
-

i am the evidence

Are you? And the other lad is the evidence that women are being raped at football matches?

I'll reserve judgement on this one considering you three alone are the evidence of such groping and rape.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

FD, I just wanted to say how sorry I am for what happened to your son's gf and I hope she is OK.

Having worked in the media for a long time (and yes, willing to provide a ton of articles with my real name on it, since you got my name and phone and shit, not worried), the fact that it wasn't reported is actually good for her, there is a lot of shit that happens to victims, starting from terror, intimidation etc. As for why it isn't reported, the police doesn't report to the media, the media has to request info, that info then is filtered to protect alleged victims and criminals, simply because a report that won't even make it to court and ends up being withdrawn, could end somebody's career and life as they know it. Not a lot of news outlets will require how many rapes happened after a certain game, however horrible it is, the regular rape won't make the news unless it is a very dry day, it's too run of the mill, gropings hardly ever get reported unless extreme. A woman being groped tries to get away, if she goes to the police, yes they will file a report but unless she knows the name or the guy has a tattoo on his forehead, it's not going anywhere and it doesn't receive the same attention as a "real" crime. I'm not happy with it but I do understand the limitations of the system.

As for the fuckheads damaging your car, we didn't have the riot insurance and got caught up in the Manchester riots (basically scum looting and pretending it's Tiananmen Square), shit yes, that stuff can cost you a bundle, I seriously don't know why assholes switch their brains off when it comes to football, but even here in this sleepy corner of the UK, when Germany trashed the UK in the football worldcup, some brain dead asshat tried to kick one of my dogs, because you know, Dobie is a German breed and obviously she used her evil mind powers to make the Brits lose, nevermind that she was born in Liverpool (or at least that was the place where we rescued her from).

I think a lot less rapes and gropes would happen without peer pressure and guys trying to feel the need to show off, or if some of the guys who pretend it doesn't happen wouldn't deliberately look away and grow a fucking pair, heck, nobody expects that a scared little boy actually does something himself, but everybody has a mobile now, just calling the police might help A LOT, more than sticking the head in the sand in any case...

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This happened last year...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nick-cruwys-boy-aged-13-5318707
nothing to do with women or grope or rape, just violence.
it isnt just women that get hurt by gangs of drunk men.
Which is actually what started this hijack..

Who said they were drunk?

And, still no evidence of women being raped or groped at football matches.
-

i am the evidence

Are you? And the other lad is the evidence that women are being raped at football matches?

I'll reserve judgement on this one considering you three alone are the evidence of such groping and rape.

I said I was groped at a soccer match and attacked outside the club and more than once by soccer fans. I cant speak for anyone but myself ....you dont seem to be able to handle ANY of us.
Other than get your neck up and call liar.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This happened last year...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nick-cruwys-boy-aged-13-5318707
nothing to do with women or grope or rape, just violence.
it isnt just women that get hurt by gangs of drunk men.
Which is actually what started this hijack..

Who said they were drunk?

And, still no evidence of women being raped or groped at football matches.
-

i am the evidence

Are you? And the other lad is the evidence that women are being raped at football matches?

I'll reserve judgement on this one considering you three alone are the evidence of such groping and rape.

I said I was groped at a soccer match and attacked outside the club and more than once by soccer fans. I cant speak for anyone but myself ....you dont seem to be able to handle ANY of us.
Other than get your neck up and call liar.

Yes, you're the only woman ever to be groped and attacked at a football match. No one else, just you. There is no account of such an event except your claim: "I am the evidence".

And, the other lad "heard" something happened from a mate of a dog down the pub. And claims someone was raped but it didn't become news - instead of reporting to the police and ending up in the newspapers they told him instead.

Do you realise how ridiculous the three of you sound?

You haven't been anywhere near a football match or a football crowd. It's obvious from what you say.

You and the other two have this vision of marauding drunk crowds, one of you even talked about a gang of drunken lads from your own link - except in the very same link there was no mention of drunkenness.

You wanna forget the fairy tales and start living in the real world.

Funny how you and the snob put yourselves across as liberals but you're very quick to tell outright lies about working class people. You sure you're liberals or do you just read, digest and regurgitate any old shite?

Even the Tories don't bother with these scare stories anymore.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This happened last year...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nick-cruwys-boy-aged-13-5318707
nothing to do with women or grope or rape, just violence.
it isnt just women that get hurt by gangs of drunk men.
Which is actually what started this hijack..

Who said they were drunk?

And, still no evidence of women being raped or groped at football matches.
-

i am the evidence

Are you? And the other lad is the evidence that women are being raped at football matches?

I'll reserve judgement on this one considering you three alone are the evidence of such groping and rape.

I said I was groped at a soccer match and attacked outside the club and more than once by soccer fans. I cant speak for anyone but myself ....you dont seem to be able to handle ANY of us.
Other than get your neck up and call liar.

Yes, you're the only woman ever to be groped and attacked at a football match. No one else, just you. There is no account of such an event except your claim: "I am the evidence".

And, the other lad "heard" something happened from a mate of a dog down the pub. And claims someone was raped but it didn't become news - instead of reporting to the police and ending up in the newspapers they told him instead.

Do you realise how ridiculous the three of you sound?

You haven't been anywhere near a football match or a football crowd. It's obvious from what you say.

You and the other two have this vision of marauding drunk crowds, one of you even talked about a gang of drunken lads from your own link - except in the very same link there was no mention of drunkenness.

You wanna forget the fairy tales and start living in the real world.

Funny how you and the snob put yourselves across as liberals but you're very quick to tell outright lies about working class people. You sure you're liberals or do you just read, digest and regurgitate any old shite?

Even the Tories don't bother with these scare stories anymore.

This is why women dont report. Gobshites who refuse to listen to stuff they dont wanna hear.
You think you are more white trash than i am....hows that working out for you?
Be happy.

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This is why women dont report. Gobshites who refuse to listen to stuff they dont wanna hear.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: DocStrange

I happened to be in Manchester England during a local football game, Manchester United versus Birmingham. After the game there was a complete police escort walking the team and fans for Birmingham back to the train station. We are talking police in riot gear, guard dogs on chains, streets blocked off, sirens. I was shocked at how violent just getting the opponent out of the city was.

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Lemme ask you this: "you talk about being shocked at the violence" - but did you actually see any violence? Or did you see people just being marched down the street by the police?

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Lucylastic

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This is why women dont report. Gobshites who refuse to listen to stuff they dont wanna hear.

I love the irony in this one. Here we have Lucy ridiculing men for not doing something about a problem that affects men, and yet she excuses the "not doing something about it" when women aren't doing something about a problem.

Gotta larf

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

FD, I just wanted to say how sorry I am for what happened to your son's gf and I hope she is OK.

Having worked in the media for a long time (and yes, willing to provide a ton of articles with my real name on it, since you got my name and phone and shit, not worried), the fact that it wasn't reported is actually good for her, there is a lot of shit that happens to victims, starting from terror, intimidation etc. As for why it isn't reported, the police doesn't report to the media, the media has to request info, that info then is filtered to protect alleged victims and criminals, simply because a report that won't even make it to court and ends up being withdrawn, could end somebody's career and life as they know it. Not a lot of news outlets will require how many rapes happened after a certain game, however horrible it is, the regular rape won't make the news unless it is a very dry day, it's too run of the mill, gropings hardly ever get reported unless extreme. A woman being groped tries to get away, if she goes to the police, yes they will file a report but unless she knows the name or the guy has a tattoo on his forehead, it's not going anywhere and it doesn't receive the same attention as a "real" crime. I'm not happy with it but I do understand the limitations of the system.

As for the fuckheads damaging your car, we didn't have the riot insurance and got caught up in the Manchester riots (basically scum looting and pretending it's Tiananmen Square), shit yes, that stuff can cost you a bundle, I seriously don't know why assholes switch their brains off when it comes to football, but even here in this sleepy corner of the UK, when Germany trashed the UK in the football worldcup, some brain dead asshat tried to kick one of my dogs, because you know, Dobie is a German breed and obviously she used her evil mind powers to make the Brits lose, nevermind that she was born in Liverpool (or at least that was the place where we rescued her from).

I think a lot less rapes and gropes would happen without peer pressure and guys trying to feel the need to show off, or if some of the guys who pretend it doesn't happen wouldn't deliberately look away and grow a fucking pair, heck, nobody expects that a scared little boy actually does something himself, but everybody has a mobile now, just calling the police might help A LOT, more than sticking the head in the sand in any case...

This
its this bad with reporting rape now, and its better than it has been for decades.