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I think you'll find masses of people who have huge concerns about gender equality in the world.
There is this thing called "the empathy gap". Feminists are massive offenders of it.
First let's just call you on the deceitful way you attempt to dodge my original question. If your arguments were sound, you wouldn't have to try so hard to avoid questions, would you?
You claimed that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone on the left who supports any criticism against muslims or other cultures in general.
This is demonstrably bullshit. Throwing up a couple of links that talk about the empathy gap - Which, for your education, is a topic of concern to a lot of feminists - is absurd.
Just so you know, Fiamengo is building a reputation, and acquiring sources of funding, by deliberately creating specious arguments that appeal to halfwitted MRA activists. If you had a shred of intellectual honesty (which I know is a double ask for you) you'd view her nonsense with a critical eye, and then see if for the babble that it is.
The second video is interesting, of course any sensible person could explain why the perception of a taller stronger male physically abusing a smaller woman would cause more concern than if it were the other way around. Of course, it does touch on the question of DV perpetrated against men by women which - oddly enough is a cause that has been taken up by the gender equality movement.
Can you see how confused you are now?
I understand that you don't believe that you're lying, but you are. Your lies begin with you lying to yourself. And it's sad.
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So, you think it should be ok for men to deliberately intimidate women?
Nope. You are totally missing the point as always. It's fucking stupid to define it as "rape". Feminists throw around the word "rape" so easily and blithely. A man can even "rape" by farting. "fart rape" Feminists don't realise that it's taking away the level of seriousness with rape when they take it to such extremes like this. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
Ah but no... you're missing the point. I can understand that you're fixated on the choice of "rape", and your ideology requires you to associate it with a single and specific act, but "rape" can also be used in the context of "violation".
This, by the way, is where you and your pathetic MRA chums get all confused when the topic of "Rape Culture" arises.
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So you think it's "deranged" for women to expect equal treatment in the workplace and society at large?
No, it's deranged when feminists think up such fucking stupid things like I have been talking about. Yet, you totally miss the point and ignore that and come up with something that is totally off the mark of my claim.
Here's the problem.. I will freely admit that there are whackos in the feminist movement, just as there are whackos in every part of society. What you're doing is attempting to ascribe those same views to the whole movement. Which makes you look very stupid.
It is deranged of you to assume that because you have heard, or read (on your fave delusional MRA website, no doubt), or even - shudder - experienced something that is out of whack, that that thing is representative of the whole movement.
Deranged, and very very sad.
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It's clear that you don't understand what the term "rape culture" means, or the issues that it seeks to explore.
It simply means that society is accepting towards rape. This is nothing more than obnoxious hyperbole and androphobia.
I knew that you didn't understand it. It's more complex than that, it's about attitudes and behaviours that contribute towards a view that a woman's sexual agency isn't her own, which then contributes to rape. The subtle distinction is lost on you, and you are the poorer for your ignorance.
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There is a mountain of factual evidence that shows that there's a real problem with young white men objectifying women.
How does objectifying equal rape? Oh, "stare rape" I guess lol. Can feminists get any stupider?
There was no need for you to do this, it's already abundantly clear that you don't understand what rape culture means, but I suppose having you prove your ignorance beyond doubt in the very next line of your post does settle things.
It's not ok for a man to make a woman uncomfortable by deliberately staring at here in a nasty, pervy, predatory way. If you're too stupid to understand how allowing that kind of abusive behaviour contributes towards a general objectification of women then nothing any one says will ever help you.
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To point out the obvious, women objectify too, but why aren't feminists shouting about that? Oh I'm forgetting, it's a part of being a modern feminist to be a hypocrite. It seems non existent for a feminist to stop being a hypocrite for 5 minutes when it comes to gender discussion.
30 seconds of googling would have shown you that many feminists talk about harrassment of men by women as an issue. You're being lazy and silly now.
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It could be that you feel so weak and powerless that you believe you need some mandate that requires people to respect men whether they are worthy of it or not.
I certainly don't feel weak and powerless, I do however think western societies lack respect and empathy for men. For example, look how much consideration and media coverage appears for international women's day compared to international men's day.
I think you're in denial about this. You certainly come over as weak and powerless. Your whining is pathetic.
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It seems that the majority of conversation when it comes to men throughout history to the present, particularly from feminists, it's all focused on all the bad in men while totally ignoring all the good men have done and all the suffering men have done to make society what it is today.
Particularly feminists, they practically spit on the graves of the men from generations ago who did good deeds of hardship and suffering to make things better for everyone else.
This video is a good eye opener to this bigoted mindset on men.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNHWdQt_rI
Oh More shit from Fiamengo? I had to stop when she talked about other people's arguments being intellectually vacuous and dishonest. And you talk about hypocrisy.
It's babble. Does it help you feel better about yourself? Perhaps you should look elsewhere for your self-respect.
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There is no thank you and respect from feminists in regards of the good men have done. The ungrateful little brats.
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It could be that you're so terrified of losing your male privilege that you'll say any shit to try to preserve it.
What's left of my so called "male privilege".
Being a male, you are more likely to get harsher punishments for the same crimes compared to women.
Yup, this bothered me, until I did some research. This is largely a myth that is touted by drooling MRA types. Whenever you encounter top level statistics like this, you need to do a second order of analysis. What factors explain the differences in sentencing? Are those factors subject to gender bias themselves?
There's plenty of research that debunks the claim, but you will never see it unless you learn how to do research.
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You are likely to get taken less seriously being a victim of rape or DV compared to a woman.
I know. This is a serious issue. And the movement that is most effectively addressing this issue is the feminist movement.
Oh! The irony.
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Misandry is taken far less seriously compared to misogyny.
Yes, because misogyny is a far far more serious, and prevalent problem.
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Most government health funding will go to women.
MMM... so you think this is a feminist conspiracy? Or do you think there's a tiny chance that this might be about need ?
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Most support for homelessness goes to women.
MMM... so you think this is a feminist conspiracy? Or do you think there's a tiny chance that this might be about need ?
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Child custody.
AH! Yes, a single domain where gender based assumptions about suitability are wrong. I agree, along with many feminists, that there needs to be a more balanced approach to child custody.
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Do I need to say more?
I don't think so. I think you've made it abundantly clear that you're a whiner with an infantile understanding of the issues. But if you really want to parade more of your ignorance and neediness, I don't think I can stop you.
Besides, we all know you do need to say more... you won't be able to stop yourself.
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Gender quotas only seem relevant when there are more men than women but hardly or never considered relevant when there are more women at first glance.
This is not true at all. Do you research.
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Traditional privileges that favour women are still socially accepted. Such as placing the burden on men to pay for everything and do most or all the work in courting. Traditional privileges favouring men, such as, make me a sandwich, condemned! Women get to keep their privileges while men are expected to give theirs up.
A woman unemployed, stay at home parent, living with her parents, doesn't own a car...is way more acceptable compared to a man who has these things happening. That is why it's far more common to call a male a loser compared to calling a female a loser.
Feminism and/or consideration for women's issues, mainstream. Men's rights and/or consideration for men's issues, underground.
In all of these, it's feminism and feminists that are changing the balance. You should be grateful for the work that is being done by the gender equality movement.
Isn't it ironic that while the MRA movement is whining, the GE movement is acting to address the issue. Can you see why this makes the MRA movement seem so pathetic?
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I could go on and on. Western women truly have privilege coming out of their ears. It's amazing how feminists only seem to talk about male privilege while totally ignoring a huge fucking elephant in the room, female privilege!
You could go on and on. You can produce as many specious, false, whining arguments as you like. All you do is showcase your foolishness.
But... please do.
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