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Greta75 -> CBS Dem Debate (11/23/2015 6:31:29 AM)

I am late into this as again, this happened while I was on holiday.

I am just finally listening to it.

First of all!

I love the twitter idea! Fantastic! And I love this moderator too!

Great job CBS!

Good questions so far!

And I actually really really like O'Malley. He would be my dem favourite candidate so far from hearing how he debated, his very sensible and made alot of sense. Why isn't he popular? I also noticed him in the previous Dem debate, that he stood up alot to me.




Greta75 -> RE: CBS Dem Debate (11/23/2015 6:41:11 AM)

They practically asked all the questions I want to know! I'm super happy with this debate!

But Clinton dodged the how to screen the refugees question. I mean, she basically just said, yes she will screen them. But the question was HOW!? And she dodged that. So she does not know! I think that question should have been asked to each and every one of them.

O Malley wants to let 65k of them in after all, he should be asked that question.




Greta75 -> RE: CBS Dem Debate (11/23/2015 6:46:26 AM)

Lmao, bernie sanders says, super wealthy people will be taxed above 50% and below 90%.

So 80%?? Woo hoo!




Greta75 -> RE: CBS Dem Debate (11/23/2015 7:02:31 AM)

Min Wage:
Clinton : 12bux
Bernie and OMalley : 15bux

Bernie actually says, job losses are expected of any major policy changes, but he believes it would be for the over all good.

Then O Malley says, his done it in maryland, and it improved his economy.

Hmm..., I am not oppose to minimum wage, but usually the experience in my country is that, when wages rises, over all cost of living rises as well. So in the end, that value of seemingly high minimum wage will become smaller and smaller due to the cost of everything increasing to subsidize expensive wages. Catch 22.




Greta75 -> RE: CBS Dem Debate (11/23/2015 7:21:48 AM)

lmao, bill clinton tweets: As we are seeing tonight, @HillaryClinton has the best vision and ideas to move us forward and keep us safe!

Um.., I guess as a husband, he has to say that.

Shockingly, no tweet from Trump so far! Mike Huckabee and Jeb Bush, even Michael Moore and Al Sharpton tweeted.

I would have thought this debate is the perfect opportunity for Trump to join in the debate!

Hell, all debates should have live twitter feeds! Fantastic. I'd like to see dem candidates tweet live on next republican debate asking them tough questions.

Student loans at 8% interest!??? WTF? Government loans too!

Yea, that is fucked! Education should be 0% interest free loans. Who the hell allowed education loan to be such high interest? Which President fault was that!? And why didn't Obama do something about this!

Free education is too excessive. But Interest-free loans should be made available.

And I don't know how the loan works, I assume most college loans, you shouldn't have to start repaying until you find a job? Not sure if it works like that with US loans. But it should be, loan repayment starts when they find a job. This part is worth subsidizing and helping out alot!

Oh Trump finally join in on tweeting, but his only been insulting all of them lol. Aw man, come on! Ask some serious questions!





MrRodgers -> RE: CBS Dem Debate (11/23/2015 1:11:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Lmao, bernie sanders says, super wealthy people will be taxed above 50% and below 90%.

So 80%?? Woo hoo!

Wrong way to go about it. The income tax (1040) should not be a political football, no matter how much air is in it. Equalize taxes on capital and labor. Tax capital gains, carried interest and dividends the same as all 1040 income.

Bring the top rate down on all income below say $200,000 and then a very sparsely, highly graduated higher tax on super incomes like Million$ per year on the moral grounds that they pay a higher premium for defense and law enforcement because they have so much more to lose.

Education could be interest free or even paid but strictly as a scholarship reward...not for everybody. Germany is brilliant on education. Before entering the 10th grade in HS, you and your counselor decide, professional educ., i.e., doctor, lawyer, engineer...or, technical educ., i.e., equip. service, manufacturing or say...construction.

If, IF there need be any attempt at federal (or state) tax incentives, they should be directed at start-ups and/or those directly tied to new employment.

Limit the mortgage interest deduction to the median price of a home...of any type. Limit FHA and VA guarantees to the same amount. $215,975 per Zillow.com, $229,400 per CNN and $219,600 per YCharts.com

Remove ALL corp. tax credits, subsidies and means test agric. subsidies. All of that, is just a start.

Even Alex Hamilton the father of crony capitalism and among the nations first wall street bankers, monarchist, federalist and believer in a central bank with a debt based economy, said that govt. could be paid for with a small tax on business with obviously...no income tax on labor.




Greta75 -> RE: CBS Dem Debate (11/23/2015 8:33:35 PM)

Bernie brought up another interesting theory.

He mentioned in this debate that, if marijuana was fully legalised, they would free up alot of space in prison. And save the country alot of money there. I think he claims 80 billion dollars spent on prisons per annum? Maybe he said million, and I heard wrongly from his accent, I don't know.

One of his concerns is, too many people are in jail. So I mean, I get the impression that marijuana is easily obtain in the US, and practically almost every teen probably dabbled with it before once or twice.

Do they really jail people for it?

Although my country will probably kill people for having too much marijuana, that's how we keep our prisons empty, jailing drug addicts just will clog up prisons, but generally, I don't see the difference between cigs or marijuana, so I am not against legalisation of marijuana also.

Also, in many ways, I feel like vices like drug, gambling, alcohol, are people's choice. It's quite interesting why we bother having laws against it, it's almost like government is playing parenting role for adults. To keep them from doing things that are bad for themselves.

Very Nannying in many ways. But is it really necessary?





MrRodgers -> RE: CBS Dem Debate (11/24/2015 1:33:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Bernie brought up another interesting theory.

He mentioned in this debate that, if marijuana was fully legalised, they would free up alot of space in prison. And save the country alot of money there. I think he claims 80 billion dollars spent on prisons per annum? Maybe he said million, and I heard wrongly from his accent, I don't know.

One of his concerns is, too many people are in jail. So I mean, I get the impression that marijuana is easily obtain in the US, and practically almost every teen probably dabbled with it before once or twice.

Do they really jail people for it?

Although my country will probably kill people for having too much marijuana, that's how we keep our prisons empty, jailing drug addicts just will clog up prisons, but generally, I don't see the difference between cigs or marijuana, so I am not against legalisation of marijuana also.

Also, in many ways, I feel like vices like drug, gambling, alcohol, are people's choice. It's quite interesting why we bother having laws against it, it's almost like government is playing parenting role for adults. To keep them from doing things that are bad for themselves.

Very Nannying in many ways. But is it really necessary?



Depending on just who you read, it is between $20,000 and $40,000 per inmate, per annum to house a convict in jail. Either way, that means Billion$.

$80 billion is only $1.6 billion average per so.....?




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