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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 1:48:47 PM

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I think moderator 11 made a stupid mistake in moving this from its proper home and banishing it here. I don't think the moderator has the ability to admit they are wrong which is very very sad.

I was told I was gutless for saying this the way I did so I am posting it here and I will take my punishment like an adult, so I will be on moderation for a while, whatever that is.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 2:00:47 PM

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Oh, I see, well I hope this wont get me into trouble, but yes I agree with you, I don't think this is necessarily an off topic..topic. But I'm not a Mod for this site. I will say, Crappy I've been a Mod for another site, and it's not easy. It's often thankless and they are human too and often they get bombarded with stupid shit so that by the time something like this happens, they are to tired to be bothered with saying "i was wrong" Or "oh I didn't see it that way" or what have you.

I hope you wont be under moderation and I thank you again for posting the link

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 2:23:56 PM

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Maybe the mod was afraid that this would turn into a discussion of making subs come by mind control, and wisely chose to bin it early on.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 2:33:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

I think moderator 11 made a stupid mistake in moving this from its proper home and banishing it here. I don't think the moderator has the ability to admit they are wrong which is very very sad.

*sigh*

The thread wasn't banished. It's still accessable by all the users here and it's now in a more appropriate forum according to the wishes of the site owners. There was nothing "wrong" about moving it here no mater what you believe. Both you and the OP could have raised your points on the matter without resorting to insults but you chose instead to leap right to the childish insult stage.

If you or the OP actually want to discuss this matter further instead of using it as a platform to bash the moderators due to your bad feelings towards us over previous interventions concerning your inability to follow the system's rules, feel free to do so in email. Otherwise, this ends now.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 2:49:26 PM

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fast reply,

I have had experience with both topics under discussion.. both are real from the perspective of my own body.

and...

I managed to find this thread and post on it without any trouble at all.. I am thinking others can too.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 3:23:57 PM

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This is from one of my favorite sites, from the How To area, and under G Spot: http://www.bdsmcentral.com/bdsm/gspot.htm
and this from the area called Female Ejaculation: http://www.bdsmcentral.com/bdsm/ejaculation.htm

I don't want to copy and paste the entire thing, though the site gives permission, and I can't copy and paste parts of it.

Um, btw, it's supposed to come in one of two flavors, buttery or sweet...and I know which one mine is.

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Strangely enough, some things one might take as given are actually subjects of controversy instead. Here I ask you to weigh in on the following subjects of controversy:

1. The G-Spot: Does it exist? What does it do? How does it relate to the possible presence of the Skene's gland?
2. Female Ejaculation: Does it exist? What are it's characteristics? What is the fluid emitted? Squirt or gush? Clear or white? Is it merely uncontrolled urine?

Personally, and without giving away too much of my own opinion, I think these subjects are all very closely related to one another. I'm interested in anything anyone has to say on any of it.

1.....YES! Mine used to get stimulated during sex and since neither of us knew what we were doing, I didn't get to ejaculate...except sometimes it went off in my sleep after marathon, nonorgasmic sex. I was accused of peeing the bed at first, yeah it was that much. It was very slippery, not like urine, the wet spot on the white sheets had a hint of pink that was weird, not like any blood, but like Easter Egg pink. I was so offended at the accusation that I had peed the bed when I had just had a terrific orgasm in my sleep and he was messing up the afterglow for me with his whining, that I reached down and then tasted some.

It was sweet, not salty, and definitely in no way like urine.

I've not had a S.O. since before my teenaged unmentionable was born, so I'm looking way back in the past for this, okay? Oh, one time while having sex *cringes* in a bathroom in a donut shop...I should never have mentioned the two long metal rails on either side of the... Anyway, from the very first instant of stimulation, it was like having an orgasm with no beginning and no end, without contractions, that would keep up as long as the stimulation continued, it seemed. Too bad he came, lol, life is so not fair.

2. I'll add to "what does it do?" and "what are it's characteristics", etc. Just adding a different facet onto what others haven't brought up because THEY are sexually active recently and I'm...not exactly. (I don't want causual sex...I want it with someone I love, so I have it with myself, lol.) So, from this point of view... For those of us who are having multiple orgasms, sometime after 8 or 12, or after 4 with a really good assisted *coughs* fantasy, something very frustrating can happen; the G spot can swell up and be very uncomfortable...I've had problems peeing for often 3 days afterward. A G spot vibe? Forget it, mine doesn't do the job. *I'm open to hearing better brands that have worked for others.* Fingers? Mine barely reaches the outer edge, when my G spot is swelled up, and it's enough to drive me mad. (This is why I had to stop listening

to delicious pirate and kidnap bedtime stories over the phone. I feel sorry for men who have had "blue balls", as I think this condition feels a bit the same.)

If/when I find a significant other, this won't be a problem, as I'll tell him EXACTLY what to do, if he doesn't know already.

As for the thread being moved, maybe if you had asked about finding a submissive's G spot, or finding it after she's tied up...

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 3:29:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: desertdancer

Awww I'm disappointed, I was interested in the questions posed. It's sad to see when a possibly good thread can go down hill this quickly. Inquiring minds would like to hear more about this, any chances of pulling it back on track?

~dancer

There is plenty of good solid research on these topics. If anyone is interested they can easily go to sources of reliable information.

We're all online right now anyway. Why toss a question out to random passersby when some well-qualified people who have dedicated large portions of their careers to investigating this stuff are only a few clicks away?

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 5:46:02 PM

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Here's an article in the Thirdage Health Newsletter:

Often Elusive G-Spot Still a Mystery

By Faye Flam
It took decades for society to come to grips with the Copernican solar system and years to put together a complete quantum mechanical description of the atomic nucleus, so we shouldn't be surprised that sexologists are still grappling with the G-spot.
A German doctor, Ernst Grafenberg, first announced this female erogenous/orgasmic zone in 1950, and some people are still looking for it.
A few doctors have argued that the spot lacks any of the special mythological powers attributed to it -- it's like the Bermuda Triangle of female anatomy.

The rest of it is here: http://www.thirdage.com/news/articles/ALT02/06/07/05/ALT02060705-01.html

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 6:15:23 PM

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I am not sure what CD has said, but he seems straight, and I am not sure about the OP at all.................apparently, there are enough vaginas in the world that there is no copmpellling reason to call them phenomenon.............

on the other hand, I think that those that have them can certainly (in current colloquial language), be called cunts............

And I love them each and every one.
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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 6:32:16 PM

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In response to cynthiamarie's question about a better g spot vibrator speaking for myself the g spot vib did not do the trick howver if there is a good kink store near you there is a great selection of vibs, Master bought me my first vib with the clit stimulator, and we quickly burned that one out <eg> However we went shopping for another in a store where you can test the vibs including feeling the strength of the vib rotation etc. Apparently i have taken my kegal exersizes to the next level and i have rather strong vag muscles (which of course Master loves). i was able to find a vib thick enough and long enough that it reaches my g spot perfectly each time.

Good luck in the search they can be expensive but omg are they worth it.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 7:51:53 PM

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Thank you, Owned1.

I live in a tiny town and am limited to a Spencers and an XXX shop that seems to specialize in selling VHS tapes, outfits for exotic dancers, and a cheaply made and overpriced confusing array of dildos and vibes. I'm not derailing this thread much, since I'm asking about name brands, sites, etc. for G spot vibes that others have tested and

found to be lovely...

I'll have to order online, Owned1, so I'd appreciate it if you can either list the name brand and model, whatever, here or else in my mailbox...

Maybe some of us can answer the OP's q's better if we...um...*snickers*...do this scientifically.

...carefully catching the fluid in a glass or something and measuring it...

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 8:39:51 PM

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Well, I do know that both are very real, because I found the G-spot no problem and I have also seen and tasted a woman's cum. Yes, it is clear, but it is not tasteless. Actually it has a very faint scent and taste of urine.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 10:25:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: cynthiamarie

Thank you, Owned1.

I live in a tiny town and am limited to a Spencers and an XXX shop that seems to specialize in selling VHS tapes, outfits for exotic dancers, and a cheaply made and overpriced confusing array of dildos and vibes. I'm not derailing this thread much, since I'm asking about name brands, sites, etc. for G spot vibes that others have tested and found to be lovely...

I'll have to order online, Owned1, so I'd appreciate it if you can either list the name brand and model, whatever, here or else in my mailbox...

Maybe some of us can answer the OP's q's better if we...um...*snickers*...do this scientifically. ...carefully catching the fluid in a glass or something and measuring it...

It is the Sue Johanson Royal surfer vibrator, i found it online by doing a search for Sue Johanson and her sex products.

have fun <winks>

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 10:36:55 PM

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You can also insert two fingers inside and make the "come hither" motion very strongly; works every time!

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/18/2006 10:42:04 PM

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You can also insert two fingers inside and make the "come hither" motion very strongly; works every time!

Only if your fingers are long enough. (for those of us who know our internal anatomy)

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/19/2006 1:07:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: Chaingang
1. The G-Spot: Does it exist? What does it do? How does it relate to the possible presence of the Skene's gland?
2. Female Ejaculation: Does it exist? What are it's characteristics? What is the fluid emitted? Squirt or gush? Clear or white? Is it merely uncontrolled urine?

I've a friend doing research on related topics and have some of the most interesting pictures that are copyrighted and I'm not at liberty to share. But based on their work and my own experiences. . . Yes, it exists, it seems to provide an alternate class of sexual stimulation, and the presence of Skene's gland is up for grabs as far as I know.
Female Ejaculation: Exists as a ton of flooded towels can attest, clear, mostly tasteless fluid. It is ejected from the urethra as shown by photographs taken during the event with a most interesting device crafted from Lexan for the study. It's not urine, but there is still no proven origin as near as I know.

One question that I raised and so far seems more likely than several other theories is that given that male and female anatomy began the same and that the structures seem to be present in different forms on both sexes, it may be that the fluid present comes from a structure that fills with fluid much in the way the sponge like tissues of the penis do. At release, the fluid is drained through the urethra.

It astounds me that so little study is dedicated to female hardware, and so darn much to the male which seems a much more simple contraption.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/19/2006 5:41:55 AM

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A certain dubious friend of mine wanted me...
.... ....
to share my personal experiences with you,
because every woman should know great pleasures in sex and love.

And so, of course, here it is.

I remember with some laughter the very first time I experienced female ejaculation. It happened 15 years ago, long before I had discovered, in "Le Chateau"- a long-gone aol chatroom, that my secret desires had a name and that people actually DID these things I had thought were my original wicked fantasies.

I had just moved to Los Angeles and found a gorgeous, gregarious, generous-hearted, charismatic, sexually gifted, born-again-Southern-Baptist boyfriend. He was completely innocent, as was I, about D/s and bdsm but the man just had that "power" people wrote about recently in another forum here.
Anyhow, he would just go where the Spirit led him, and this day he had been led to do amazing things to me with his hands. I was hollering my approval when all of a sudden I squirted, and he leapt up horrified, hollering in a southern accent that I simply can't do justice to in print, "You PEED!!!"
I was shocked and dismayed and howled my protests. I didn't know what it WAS, but I knew what it WASN'T. He eventually calmed down and re-thought things, and soon set about seeing if he could make me do it some more. He could. He did.
The joy we had in this and other discoveries colored and illuminated the way I have felt about taking risks and letting go ever since.

The next time I will recount took place five years later on a day of firsts...first time I scened with my first Dom, first time I was bound, first long-awaited spanking, first flogging, and first fisting.

Oh my. Fisting.

Once his hand could close into a fist, every tiny move he made bumped my g-spot, and every time he moved I flooded again - and again and again and again...just incredible. I felt utterly, perfectly taken. The degree to which I had to surrender to open that much, the shockingly invasive quality of it...perfection.

The most recent time was a few months ago when a former Dom flew out to see me in my new apartment. I had been through a bad few years, had left a negative relationship and spent the year after it recuperating, playing only twice...and it had been years since this Dom and I had been together. He came in the door of my new place and kissed me hard for a long time, then reached between my legs and laughed aloud when he found panties...and then laughed again when I flooded right through them. Apparently, sometimes all the stimulation needed is in my head. Joy and anticipation can arouse me as much as any physically direct method.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/19/2006 7:01:51 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owned1

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

You can also insert two fingers inside and make the "come hither" motion very strongly; works every time!

Only if your fingers are long enough. (for those of us who know our internal anatomy)

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<<VWEG>> I have large paws ermm hands with very knowing fingers and a long flexable tongue.......

Was just remembering that long ere computers, we had the magazines which we could mailorder and which arrives wrappen in plain brown paper. Of course there was always the "Behind the dunny" discussions amongst us young tykes about sex and the mysterious people called women.. There was heaps of discussions about what their breasts looked like and what they would feel like {juvinile hardons here}and of course what they (females) looked like. Of course those with older sisters were begged to recount what they saw when they walked intothe bathroomand older sister was showering. Finally there was the myth that whilst caucasian vaginas had a virticle slit, oriental vaginas had a horizontal one which could suck you dri very fast and that negroid vaginers had on which had both virticle and horisontal slits which could suck you right in ball and all {juvinile orgasm with much trembling all over here} Such were the myths propegated from generation to geeration which now any net surfer can dispell with the touch of a mouse.. With the advent of the internet we lost the sence of innocense and anticipation where the first fuck (with a real humn woman person nd not you pillow, stuffed toy or pet sheep) was filled with unholy anticipation boardering on terror.

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/19/2006 7:59:06 AM

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Yes, Yes, YES it DOES exist and I'm SOOOOOO glad it does!!!!!!!

Here is a pretty good link that discusses female ejaculation in detail.
http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/ejacula.htm

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RE: Vaginal Phenomena: Myth or Reality? - 7/19/2006 8:12:57 AM

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Yes, it happens. And it is not always erm...clear.

When it first started happening, I was wondering What the hell????? I thought I needed medical help lol.

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