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Lucylastic -> 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/27/2015 6:52:53 PM)

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/261393-death-toll-rises-after-planned-parenthood-shooting


A man armed with a “long firearm" stormed a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, Colo., and exchanged gunfire with authorities for several hours, killing at least three people, before surrendering on Friday.

"The perpetrator is in custody. The situation has been resolved. There's no continuing peril to the citizens of Colorado Springs," Mayor John Suthers told reporters. "But there's a huge crime scene that has to be processed. We have to determine exactly how many victims there are."


The assailant, described as a white man wearing a trench coat, killed one police officer and two civilians before surrendering at 4:52 p.m. local time. At least eight others were injured, and the extent of their injuries is not known.
Police were able to end the incident, they said, when they stormed the clinic and shouted at the man to give himself up. Authorities feared for explosives inside of the building, noting that the suspect brought several unidentified objects with him.

“We don’t know what they are,” Buckley said. “We know that the suspect brought several items with him, and some of those are inside the Planned Parenthood building and some of them are out front of it.”

Several civilians were trapped inside of the clinic during the standoff, and police locked down nearby stores for several hours with customers and employees still inside.

Authorities said the initial 911 call reporting the shooting at 11:38 a.m. came from the Planned Parenthood facility.

Police spokeswoman Catherine Buckley said the clinic was the original site of the attack, though preliminary reports had indicated it may have been a nearby Chase Bank. The motive of the suspect was not immediately clear.

Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountain President Vicki Cowart said she did not know what drove the attack, but noted that a “poisonous environment” toward the issue of abortion may have played a part.

"We don't yet know the full circumstances and motives behind this criminal action, and we don't yet know if Planned Parenthood was in fact the target of this attack," Cowart said in a statement. "We share the concerns of many Americans that extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in this country.”

“We will never back away from providing care in a safe, supportive environment that millions of people rely on and trust,” she added.

Bryan Hawke, 35, a chiropractor who was locked down in his office across the street from the Planned Parenthood facility, told The New York Times the clinic is the site of protests “probably six days a week,” sometimes drawing as many as 200 people.
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I saw this this afternoon, when it started, and just picked itup again now that it appears to be over. Obviously the "facts" arent all available.
My heart goes out to the families and victims, the cops and civillians





Kirata -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 1:22:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

A man armed with a “long firearm" stormed a Planned Parenthood clinic...

That business about storming a Planned Parenthood clinic may be a bit of gratuitious legerdemain. The area is a shopping mall and the shooting started outside. One person was wounded at Elite Vision (Gazette). A manager at Supercuts reported seeing police pull up to a nearby Chase Bank and an officer get struck by a bullet there (New York Times). It appears that the shooter fled into Planned Parenthood as responders swarmed the area.

"We're still reaching out to confirm individuals, how they are. I believe no one of our staff was severely injured. I also believe at this time that none of our patients were injured," she [Vicki Cowart, of Planned Parenthood] told CNN. ~CNN

K.





Lucylastic -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 1:32:01 AM)

Yes, and i only posted what the news was . And that he had been caught.
I even put in the post what vicki cowart said.
6 hours ago.
3 are dead, and 8-9 injured.
Living breathing americans, shot.
Mind you, thank you for adding your links




Kirata -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 1:41:55 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Living breathing americans, shot.

As opposed to shooting Americans who aren't? [:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Mind you, thank you for adding your links

You're welcome. One more...

Gunshots were first reported near the [Planned Parenthood] facility on Centennial Boulevard in Colorado Springs at around 11:38 a.m. The shooter began firing in the parking lot and then entered the building, a law enforcement official told NBC News. ~NBC

K.





thompsonx -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 4:01:16 AM)


ORIGINAL: Kirata


ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Living breathing americans, shot.

As opposed to shooting Americans who aren't? [:D]

Either a belt and suspenders approach or suspected zombies[:D]





Kirata -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 11:48:20 AM)


~ FR ~

While I haven't seen the shooter's weapon identified anywhere yet, Yahoo News is reporting that Obama is already calling it an "assault" weapon and talking about "weapons of war" in the hands of people who have "no business wielding them". According to the Daily Mail there was a domestic violence incident in the shooter's past as well as one involving cruelty to animals, but he was found not guilty on the second charge and his wife at the time declined to press domestic violence charges.

Yahoo News
Daily Mail

K.




Lucylastic -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 12:06:10 PM)

I did see reference to an ak-47, but ...i could be mistaken. Ive read too many things, it could be mixed with other stuff.
Im still waiting on more details.

Concrete ones...
Its far too easy to jump into.




Tkman117 -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 12:40:25 PM)

Still surprised they haven't called this an act of terrorism




BamaD -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 12:42:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I did see reference to an ak-47, but ...i could be mistaken. Ive read too many things, it could be mixed with other stuff.
Im still waiting on more details.

Concrete ones...
Its far too easy to jump into.


Besides most of the press wouldn't know an AK from a buffulo gun.
Remember early reports that the Sandy Hook shooter had a 12 ga AR?
You are wise to take that report with a grain of salt.




servantforuse -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 12:57:23 PM)

I find it curious that Obama has no comment ever about the murder rate in his home town of Chicago. They are once again nearing 500 murders in 2015.




thompsonx -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 1:11:59 PM)


ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I find it curious that Obama has no comment ever about the murder rate in his home town of Chicago. They are once again nearing 500 murders in 2015.

Was one of those murders committed by a punkassmotherfucker named jason van dyke?




JanahX -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 1:26:37 PM)

Loved - LOVED the news reporting that was going on yesterday during this. Especially when CNN brought on that douchebag Rep. Adam Kizinger (R.-Ill.) to slam P.P. DURING the shootings - and how he was saying:“We saw these barbaric videos, and that was something that many of us have a legitimate concern about,” - Like this was justifying what the hell was going on. It was unbelievable. Then it just got better and better as he continued on with:“Obviously this is a person that has a mental-health issue that’s to some level psychotic and crazy," “If he is [targeting Planned Parenthood], he is taking a legitimate disagreement with a practice and turned it into an evil response.” This is going on DURING the shooting spreading information he had no confirmation about and was turning it into a partisan issue.

Then you gotta love all the information about how it started at the bank and at the grocery store - and how all the right wingers ARE STILL SAYING IT WAS A BANK ROBBERY.
Christ - ANYTHING but the fucking-right-spit-in-your-face-OBVIOUS.
The Republicans can't deal that this seed was PLANTED by the right,
Has been tended & CARED FOR by the right
& now that it's in FULL FUCKING BLOOM, they're trying to say...."oh it was a bank robbery that went on in Planned Parenthood."

I mean all I can say is: You. Peoples. Is. One. Dumb. Ass. Mother. Fuckers. Fo. Sho.




BamaD -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 2:59:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX

Loved - LOVED the news reporting that was going on yesterday during this. Especially when CNN brought on that douchebag Rep. Adam Kizinger (R.-Ill.) to slam P.P. DURING the shootings - and how he was saying:“We saw these barbaric videos, and that was something that many of us have a legitimate concern about,” - Like this was justifying what the hell was going on. It was unbelievable. Then it just got better and better as he continued on with:“Obviously this is a person that has a mental-health issue that’s to some level psychotic and crazy," “If he is [targeting Planned Parenthood], he is taking a legitimate disagreement with a practice and turned it into an evil response.” This is going on DURING the shooting spreading information he had no confirmation about and was turning it into a partisan issue.

Then you gotta love all the information about how it started at the bank and at the grocery store - and how all the right wingers ARE STILL SAYING IT WAS A BANK ROBBERY.
Christ - ANYTHING but the fucking-right-spit-in-your-face-OBVIOUS.
The Republicans can't deal that this seed was PLANTED by the right,
Has been tended & CARED FOR by the right
& now that it's in FULL FUCKING BLOOM, they're trying to say...."oh it was a bank robbery that went on in Planned Parenthood."

I mean all I can say is: You. Peoples. Is. One. Dumb. Ass. Mother. Fuckers. Fo. Sho.

Even in your quote the representative was saying that this was an evil act.
That it was a sick and twisted act.
According to the witnesses the shooting did start outside, then he went into PP.
It may be that PP was his intended destination but that is not yet clear.
If he was out to kill people in PP why didn't he kill them all in the time he had, he seemed to be more interested in shooting cops, he kill one of them and half of the wounded were cops, if he was out to kill PP employees he was totally incompetent.
No the right, much as you would like for it to be so, did not encourage this.




KenDckey -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 3:31:52 PM)

Since the reports I read indicated the shooting started outside and went into PP, I wonder how many people were wounded/killed by friendly fire? Regardless, the perp will be charged for their murders most probably because they occurred during the act of the crime, but still Just wondering.




bounty44 -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 3:46:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX
I mean all I can say is: You. Peoples. Is. One. Dumb. Ass. Mother. Fuckers. Fo. Sho.


I would put forth that if the guy was from "the right" and targeting planned parenthood---gee, don't you think he could have walked straight in and starting killing all the employees?

that being the case, you have the temerity to call people "on the right" dumb?




thompsonx -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 3:53:45 PM)


ORIGINAL: bounty44

I would put forth that if the guy was from "the right" and targeting planned parenthood---gee, don't you think he could have walked straight in and starting killing all the employees?

that being the case, you have the temerity to call people "on the right" dumb?

Comrade, how about we wait and see if you have both feet in your mouth at the same time?




Lucylastic -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 4:11:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I find it curious that Obama has no comment ever about the murder rate in his home town of Chicago. They are once again nearing 500 murders in 2015.

WHy dont you try and deflect it a little bit more you useless idiot.




Politesub53 -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 4:12:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44


quote:

ORIGINAL: JanahX
I mean all I can say is: You. Peoples. Is. One. Dumb. Ass. Mother. Fuckers. Fo. Sho.


I would put forth that if the guy was from "the right" and targeting planned parenthood---gee, don't you think he could have walked straight in and starting killing all the employees?

that being the case, you have the temerity to call people "on the right" dumb?



Dumb..... A word that doesnt do the American right justice. Colarado police Lt Buckley announced that the shooting had started inside the Planned Parenthood building, although initial phone calls from some of the public had thought there was shooting taking place outside the bank in the confusion of the event.. This was on CCN on Friday afternoon 4pm local time.

Police spokeswoman Catherine Buckley said the clinic was the original site of the attack, ~~ see where it clearly states Lt Buckley

Lucys OP even mentioned this, and that was posted on Friday as well. So if you could have been bothered to read her post properly, you would have fucking known that the target was the clinic and not the bank.






Lucylastic -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 4:20:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tkman117

Still surprised they haven't called this an act of terrorism

Bob Deitl tried to on fox saying.....

Again, this is our president acting like a fool. I mean to see something like this, we noticed when the attacks occurred in Paris, when the cops were in their car getting attacked, we have to prepare ourselves. This is a war. We’re against... terrorists are against this country.

It’s going to open up here in America, and we’ve got to be prepared. And we’ve also got to start training all our officers in the use of high powered equipment. We’re dealing with bad people. Our little 9 millimeters are not going to do anything against somebody with an AK-47. [unintelligible—moreso] This is an attack on us; it’s going to be for the next generation. We have to deal with it. We have to prepare ourselves for the worst, and pray that the worst don’t happen.
end quote.

THis was obviously before it was discovered that he was a single lone white shooter.*surprise bo*
This attack happened friday, until almost lunch time today not a SINGLE republican candidate had commented on this shooting....why???
Ted Cruz was the first, the others have been silent.
WHy???????






JanahX -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/28/2015 4:21:33 PM)

Well its starting to piece together. Slowly

"In one statement, made after the suspect was taken in for questioning, Dear said "no more baby parts" in reference to Planned Parenthood, according to two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case."

I never for one moment thought this was a random spot - from the moment I heard it was happening.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/planned-parenthood-shooting-suspect-made-comment-about-no-more-baby-n470706




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