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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:11:15 PM   
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I can congratulate you, doesn't mean I'm sincere or affiliated with you...

As for Faulx News, have you already forgotten the law suit they won saying they are not news but entertainment and therefore not required to be truthful?

Details, details

Surely you aren't ignoring the ISIS connection.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:18:45 PM   
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Why not do both Bama?

Fix the list but go ahead when we know that there are no facts to base it on penalize people just for the fun of it?
Lets see, we make a list of all people who have had their driving rights revoked, but we only list their names. Would you be ok with not getting to drive till they agreed that the person with your name isn't you? Sure it could take years to deciede and they don't have to tell you what they dicieded or even why you were on it, but thats ok, it helps keep drunk drivers off the road. And hey we are looking it to fixing it but up till then live with it. You do realize that every gun grabber like you could then just make one anonymous call on every gun owner you know and keep any of us from owning guns. But that thought never occured to you did it.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:24:38 PM   
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As to your comment about the illegality, I knew that. Here's the point...was the weapon then, after that modification, illegal? The answer is "yes, it was".

It is nice to see you agree with me. You do realize that taking the hi-cap mag out and putting the little one back in makes it legal again right?

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:27:18 PM   
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As to your comment about the illegality, I knew that. Here's the point...was the weapon then, after that modification, illegal? The answer is "yes, it was".

It is nice to see you agree with me. You do realize that taking the hi-cap mag out and putting the little one back in makes it legal again right?
Actually, it doesn't. Using a "legal" magazine doesn't change the illegal modification that was made.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:29:32 PM   
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I must admit I find it confusing that the US is prepared to sell guns to people it won't allow on planes because of their known or suspected links to terrorism.


Because the list inaccurate. I've had several clients that ended up on the list. I had a client's 3 year old son end up on the no fly list. The redress procedures through DHS tend to be long and drawn out.


If this is so, then the obvious solution is to fix the list, not enable the sale of lethal weapons to terrorists or suspected terrorists. Duh!

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:30:41 PM   
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As to your comment about the illegality, I knew that. Here's the point...was the weapon then, after that modification, illegal? The answer is "yes, it was".

I gave you the cite for both the "ace" mccain being a pimp,liar and traitor but you can't be bothered to read his book where he admits it.
I gave you the cite for cops in furgastan extorting the decendents of slaves out of their money but you could not be bothered to read it.
Your self imposed ignorance is yours and yours alone.
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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:36:54 PM   
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As to your comment about the illegality, I knew that. Here's the point...was the weapon then, after that modification, illegal? The answer is "yes, it was".

It is nice to see you agree with me. You do realize that taking the hi-cap mag out and putting the little one back in makes it legal again right?


Actually, it doesn't. Using a "legal" magazine doesn't change the illegal modification that was made.

So you lied about knowing what a bullet button is.Gee I am so surprised.
I know you are too lazy to look this up but it is a button on the side of the weapon that cannot be operated by hand it requires a tool. The button releases the magazine. A pointed bullet is the tool used to depress the bullet button which will release the magazine. Once the little one is out the hi-cap is inserted. The law is a technical thingie. Since a bullet is defined as a tool and the law requires that the alteration must be accomplished by the use of tools and not just a mag release.




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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:42:47 PM   
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I can congratulate you, doesn't mean I'm sincere or affiliated with you...

As for Faulx News, have you already forgotten the law suit they won saying they are not news but entertainment and therefore not required to be truthful?

Details, details


The problem you guys have with FOX Nuuuuuuze is the fact that all the other TV media has a liberal bias and FOX, with their conservative viewpoint is kicking all of their asses put together in the ratings. They have fair debates with liberals vs conservative. You just need to learn to tell the difference when some one is presenting a fact or an opinion. All the news networks have editorial programs and debate. They all have hard news programs too.


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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:49:22 PM   
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The problem you guys have with FOX Nuuuuuuze is the fact that all the other TV media has a liberal bias and FOX, with their conservative viewpoint is kicking all of their asses put together in the ratings.


McDonalds sell more fatty, sugary and generally unhealthy meals than any other restaurant. What's your point?

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 3:59:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I can congratulate you, doesn't mean I'm sincere or affiliated with you...

As for Faulx News, have you already forgotten the law suit they won saying they are not news but entertainment and therefore not required to be truthful?

Details, details


"Claim: Fox News won a 2004 court case allowing the cable channel to lie to viewers."
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Can you check out this about Fox News winning a case in 2004 where they don't have to provide the truth in the news?

Claim: Fox News won a 2004 court case allowing the cable channel to lie to viewers.

FALSE


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Rumors have circulated since at least 2009 claiming that the Fox News cable television channel fought successfully in court for the right to lie, misinform, or deceive viewers. The claim that Fox News legally won the "right to lie" has been repeated across the internet despite its being factually inaccurate on more than one level.

if you are interested in all those "levels", go here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/foxlies.asp

details details...

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 4:46:26 PM   
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SoCal jihadist wife pledged allegiance to ISIS before massacre, Fox News confirms

Is anyone other than a Democrat really surprised by this?


Really? Must be true if FOX 'news' states it....

On the day this all took place, FOX 'news' was pushing this as terrorism even before any facts were apparent. The moment they knew the names, they simply assumed it was a Muslim attacking the nation; STILL, with no evidence to back that statement up.


speaking of evidence then comrade birdbrain, kindly show the evidence that fox actually did that.


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After the Planned Parenthood attack in which a...

....White....Male....Conservative....Pro-NRA.....Pro-Lifer....armed to the teeth stormed the clinic and did many bad things to good people....


you are without a doubt the biggest moron on the forum. the only part im fully aware of is "male", as to everything else, unless you provide some evidence im going to suggest your observation flows from your unfortunate delusional world. but gee while you are at it, maybe you can make the guy a christian, anti-gay, sexist, and an islamophobe too while you are at it??

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....FOX news needed a story to push upon the Low Information Voters. Someone has an un-English like name = Muslim Terrorist.


see my point above about evidence. people of all "information" levels are on both sides of the political spectrum and can be found watching a variety of news networks. to pretend otherwise---see also my point above about your being a moron. I suppose all those Obama voters and Hillary supporters who cannot tell the difference between Obama's/Hillary's positions and those of their opponents watch fox?

I suppose you preferred the CNN coverage where one of their commentators effectively said right off the bat, hey, this looks like the work of an anti-government militia?

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The US Government has a very specific set of guidelines that determine if an act of violence is just a crime or terrorism. Because terrorism falls between crime and 'an act of war'. In fact, all three are different concepts. On the surface they all seem the same. But go down a few layers and there are big differences. A crime is simply breaking the law. The person does it not for political or territorial control/dominance. An act of war, is the opening salvo to push civilians away from their living spot, but the attackers are not doing it for petty crime. Petty crime to 'Act of War' is murder in the first.

An Act of terrorism in one in which locals are effected, but the aim of the attack extends beyond those attacked. Linguists have been grappling with defining terrorism. An we should be careful about labeling things to freely. Here is an article about the subject matter.


while its true that we do well to define the difference between normal crime and terrorism, rob essentially gave you evidence of the woman in questions connection to isis. what more might you want? or do you just like the intellectual masturbation?

while im here, linguists don't define acts or even words for that matter, they study language. and no, word definitions don't constitute language. the distinction between criminal acts and terrorism acts is a philosophical, not a linguistic one.

(thankfully you got out of that post without mucking up who and whom...but im sure you'll be right back at it as soon as those words are required)




No, no, you and CD are both wrong.....joether stated it, it must be true.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 4:49:14 PM   
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The problem you guys have with FOX Nuuuuuuze is the fact that all the other TV media has a liberal bias and FOX, with their conservative viewpoint is kicking all of their asses put together in the ratings.


McDonalds sell more fatty, sugary and generally unhealthy meals than any other restaurant. What's your point?


I was just responding back to yet another FOX News bashing post.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 4:51:56 PM   
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I was just responding back to yet another FOX News bashing post.


Fair enough. But Fox News really is crap, lovmuffin. The entire world knows this. You'll only ever be laughed at if you cite it. It's embarrassing, frankly.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 5:05:25 PM   
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I was just responding back to yet another FOX News bashing post.


Fair enough. But Fox News really is crap, lovmuffin. The entire world knows this. You'll only ever be laughed at if you cite it. It's embarrassing, frankly.



Indeed! Peon nails it.



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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 5:12:46 PM   
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As to your comment about the illegality, I knew that. Here's the point...was the weapon then, after that modification, illegal? The answer is "yes, it was".

It is nice to see you agree with me. You do realize that taking the hi-cap mag out and putting the little one back in makes it legal again right?


Actually, it doesn't. Using a "legal" magazine doesn't change the illegal modification that was made.

So you lied about knowing what a bullet button is.Gee I am so surprised.
I know you are too lazy to look this up but it is a button on the side of the weapon that cannot be operated by hand it requires a tool. The button releases the magazine. A pointed bullet is the tool used to depress the bullet button which will release the magazine. Once the little one is out the hi-cap is inserted. The law is a technical thingie. Since a bullet is defined as a tool and the law requires that the alteration must be accomplished by the use of tools and not just a mag release.



Funny...the button that released the magazine on my M-16 never needed a tool. Guess I must have been doing it wrong, eh?

But then, I never said anything about what the modification was or the tools needed (or not) to perform it, did I? What I said was that the modification was illegal and I seriously doubt...if the perpetrators were still alive and facing charges...whether the prosecutor would care if the illegality was a "technical" thing or not.

As for McCain...still waiting for those passages. Oh.. and the same for the Ferguson report. You want passages and cites, so do we.

The only person fine in their ignorance is you and that's only because you don't realize it.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 5:13:57 PM   
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I was just responding back to yet another FOX News bashing post.


Fair enough. But Fox News really is crap, lovmuffin. The entire world knows this. You'll only ever be laughed at if you cite it. It's embarrassing, frankly.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mRPj8jEo5A

go fox!

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 5:14:20 PM   
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I was just responding back to yet another FOX News bashing post.


Fair enough. But Fox News really is crap, lovmuffin. The entire world knows this. You'll only ever be laughed at if you cite it. It's embarrassing, frankly.
The entire liberal world believes this.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 5:20:15 PM   
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So you do not believe there is any need or excuse for the no fly list?

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 5:24:21 PM   
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I was just responding back to yet another FOX News bashing post.


Fair enough. But Fox News really is crap, lovmuffin. The entire world knows this. You'll only ever be laughed at if you cite it. It's embarrassing, frankly.
The entire liberal world believes this.



No, the entire world knows it. Even non-liberals - outside of the USA, that is - start laughing when Fox News is mentioned. It's possibly the most laughed-at news organisation in the world.

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RE: Shooting in California - 12/4/2015 5:25:51 PM   
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I was just responding back to yet another FOX News bashing post.


Fair enough. But Fox News really is crap, lovmuffin. The entire world knows this. You'll only ever be laughed at if you cite it. It's embarrassing, frankly.
The entire liberal world believes this.


no...just the sane parts of the world believe this

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