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maysubgirl -> Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:04:14 PM)

hello mistresses ,

how do you treat female slaves ? do  they get equal   punishment as of male slaves  or  do you treat them lil softly .



thetammyjo -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:09:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: maysubgirl

hello mistresses ,

how do you treat female slaves ? do they get equal punishment as of male slaves or do you treat them lil softly .


Since I only punish when necessary and the punishment fits the offense, sex or gender is irrelevant to me.

During training I determine what kind of service someone is most useful for and fulfilled by. Again sex or gender is not a real factor her at all.



maysubgirl -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:20:35 PM)

thanks for replying mam but  i personally feel male slaves r  stronger than female slaves.. so   should  not  female slaves get 50% of  what male slave get as   punishment  for  same offense .just a thought



MsKatHouston -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:45:21 PM)

Are you talking about corporal punishment?  In my situation, I rarely...if ever...punish using corporal.  So, strength doesn't come into play there.  The answer to your OP is that yes, I punish fems the same as males.  There is no gender preferences.  A transgression is equally offensive coming from a fem as a male, so they would get the same punishment.  You can read some forms of punishment on this thread:

http://www.collarchat.com/tm.asp?m=485715



mp072004 -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:46:51 PM)

Absolutely not. Like TammyJo, I tailor service and punishment to the person. This rarely correlates to gender.

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i personally feel male slaves r stronger than female slaves.


Why?

Monica



maysubgirl -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:47:56 PM)

thanks  but i have heard  that women  are  soft hearted   as they are mom, wife  etc ... so does mistresses punish slaves more brutally than males or  not .



MsKatHouston -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:48:04 PM)

to add:  if talking about play, I would guage what was done based on the individual slaves.  There are some fem subs I know who can take a lot more than males.  There are some maes who can take more than other males.  Each person is different.  But even there, gender is not a consideration but the individual is.



maysubgirl -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:49:38 PM)

hello mpo7 mam  i  feel  males body is  more hard and  they can bear more  than females thats why  military is full of males ..



MsKatHouston -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 2:50:10 PM)

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...as they are mom, wife  etc ...


which may mean they are even better equipped to be stronger than males, eh? [8D]



mp072004 -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 4:56:38 PM)

Punishment isn't necessarily physical, so the bodies of men and women aren't relevant to punishment.

However, if you're interested in the relationship between physical fitness and pain tolerance, that's an interesting question. It's not one that gender will help you with. While the strongest man is stronger than the strongest woman, many women are stronger than men. I'm not exceptional, but I can run faster and longer and pick up heavier things than several of the guys at my gym.

Further, if we are talking about the relationship between gender and pain tolerance, my experience agrees with MsKat's. Actually, the heaviest SM bottom I know is a woman.

Monica



MistressTexas -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 5:09:22 PM)

Funny thing, its been proven that women have a far higher pain tolerance than males do. Take childbirth for instance. it would literally send a man into cardiac arrest, whereas women do it every day. Plus women whine less about pain lol.



Cloudz -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 5:51:07 PM)

Thanks Texas,

I was reading the thread wondering when someone would state the obvious. Childbirth, CARRYING a living, growing human in your body for 9 months, single parenthood, working full time and raising children, the list goes on and on...WHO said women are weaker?




peterK50 -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 6:21:56 PM)

With all do respect women do not have a higher pain tolerence. The pain of childbirth is somewhat dulled by endorphins & nature pain killers as a stress response.
A scientific study was undertaken in the 70's to study pain tolerence. The subjects forehead was colored black & the chin was placed on a rest 12" from a heat lamp. The time to subject could remain on the chin rest was determined to be their pain tolerence,[the average of 3 attempts]. The results were that men had a higher pain tolerence by a slim margin, [ about 20 %]. My apology's to all Mistresses & sister-submissives.



LadyHugs -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 6:29:00 PM)

Dear maysubgirl, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eye, slaves and submissives are gender neutral.  Gender is just the package that embraces the soul/spirit of submission.
 
That said, I give no preference regardless of gender. 
 
Each slave's/submissive's punishment will be tailored to them in a most personal of ways.  My displeasure will be known.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs



Cloudz -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 6:33:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: peterK50

With all do respect women do not have a higher pain tolerence. The pain of childbirth is somewhat dulled by endorphins & nature pain killers as a stress response.
A scientific study was undertaken in the 70's to study pain tolerence. The subjects forehead was colored black & the chin was placed on a rest 12" from a heat lamp. The time to subject could remain on the chin rest was determined to be their pain tolerence,[the average of 3 attempts]. The results were that men had a higher pain tolerence by a slim margin, [ about 20 %]. My apology's to all Mistresses & sister-submissives.


Dearheart,

With the glory of the Internet, one can find studies to prove or disprove nearly any point. I am not bored enough to do a search (where is LA when we need her) but I assure you there are many many studies to prove both my point and yours...but I still think I am right <grin>. Be well.



peterK50 -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 6:40:14 PM)

Yes Ma'am, of course you're right. Where is LA? I'd ask her what time it is but she'd tell me how to build a watch [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m16.gif[/image]



Lashra -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 6:52:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: maysubgirl

thanks  but i have heard  that women  are  soft hearted   as they are mom, wife  etc ... so does mistresses punish slaves more brutally than males or  not .

LOL please don't believe that hogwash its not true. I know some women who can slam a guy and stomp all over him. Gender has nothing to do with it, its all about the individual. If I look at my male sub with displeasure, he crumbles, I don't have to lift a finger to him.

~Lashra



Lashra -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/18/2006 6:55:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: peterK50

With all do respect women do not have a higher pain tolerence. The pain of childbirth is somewhat dulled by endorphins & nature pain killers as a stress response.
A scientific study was undertaken in the 70's to study pain tolerence. The subjects forehead was colored black & the chin was placed on a rest 12" from a heat lamp. The time to subject could remain on the chin rest was determined to be their pain tolerence,[the average of 3 attempts]. The results were that men had a higher pain tolerence by a slim margin, [ about 20 %]. My apology's to all Mistresses & sister-submissives.

I want to see a man give birth so that this test will be unbiased. Also I've had kidney stones THREE times, that pain makes childbirth a breeze. So guys eat lots of calcium get those stones to form and lets see who handles it better.

~Lashra



thetammyjo -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/19/2006 9:36:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: maysubgirl

thanks for replying mam but i personally feel male slaves r stronger than female slaves.. so should not female slaves get 50% of what male slave get as punishment for same offense .just a thought


What is your definition of punishment?

If it is physical that still isn't a matter of gender but of the individual. Fox is not a masochist at all but Nadia certainly was. I could beat Nadia to orgasm, probably longer than I could beat on Faith (a male slave FYI).

A punishment is to correct behavior or an error. It has many forms and since the goal is correction, I firmly believe that only those which are specific to the individual and to the problem will be effective. Generic punishments will only work ocassionally and may result in generic slaves not amazing slaves.

I, myself, only deserve amazing slaves.

*grin*




Delightb32 -> RE: Bi slaves? (7/19/2006 9:51:44 AM)

Here are a few different studies, all of which indicate that a man has a greater pain tolerance.  I do find it interesting that these studies were all done with temperature related tests and wonder how results would differ with impact testing, or hair pulling or skin pinching.  The world will probably never know.

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/mar2000/953452171.Me.r.html
http://www.webmd.com/content/article/14/1687_50940
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2294/is_2002_Dec/ai_98125312
http://clearinghouse.missouriwestern.edu/manuscripts/137.asp
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro02/web2/acunningham.html



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