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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 4:49:41 PM   
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"Part of the rationale for your claim was that Hitler made peace feelers towards Britain. "

Yeah. look at what happened to Hess.

"Rudolf Walter Richard Heß, also spelled Hess (26 April 1894 – 17 August 1987), was a prominent politician in Nazi Germany. Appointed Deputy Führer to Adolf Hitler in 1933, he served in this position until 1941, when he flew solo to Scotland in an attempt to negotiate peace with the United Kingdom during World War II. He was taken prisoner and eventually was convicted of crimes against peace, serving a life sentence."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess

They arrested an envoy of peace and that is just OK, because of who did it.

I got this figured out you know. the real witnesses are dead so they get to write whatever they want. But SOME people look beyond the surface and question how the fuck could this be ? Why would they do this ? And the responses from the status quoers is they were fucking crazy or something.

but of course the "leaders" of today are not crazy, and the drones and bombs are not for conquest though there has not been an attack in 15 years, and all these weapons are used to attack other countries, not to defend this one.

Just sick of the bullshit. Call a spade a spade. The US is not the new Hitler, he only wanted a good piece of Europe. The US is the new British Empire, striving for the day when the sun never sets. Most countries just caved in, the few that did not got bombed and puppett governments installed. And now, there are just a few corners to clean up. And that is how they see it.

I really wish there was a hell.

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 4:53:12 PM   
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"Secondly, h..."

Yeah, the UK is so perfect in its ideology, morals and methods. Just like the US.

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 5:01:17 PM   
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he wanted the german colonies back, and the chechs even voted to be under germany with 92% of the vote. The zionist jews are the ones who acted like mercenaries, not to mention the single richest family in the world is rothschild a zionist german jew who got his fortunate through fraud is considered the father of israel. The treaty of versailles had 117 zioinsts on the board giving away german lands to who ever wanted it. Gave the danzig mostly to the poles where the poles slaughtered between 50,000 to 60,000 men women and children. Hitler would have backed off if they only had agreed to give him a 1 mile wide easement instead they sliced germany in half. The high road british expected germany to sit back and say thanks you massa may I have anutha! It didnt take too long for germany to figure out that they had been lubelessly fucked by both the zionist jews and of course the high rad british who think that if they dont talk about their atrocities everyone will white wash it for them and everyone will simply forget. not everyone.





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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 5:05:19 PM   
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"No he wasn't. He was a complete fool with no brains. "

If so, then what are you ? you have no army, no political power, shitty knowledge of history which all probably came from grade school. you have not implemented a plan of mass manufacturing automobiles like Henry Ford, who is a friend with mutual respect. you hav enot convinced anyone to take up arms against anyone else. You know nothing of running a country or a war.

So he was a complete fool who accomplished all these things and you have not. What does that make you ?

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Sorry, you stepped into it. I learned long ago to not put down my betters. I mean like when I was young.


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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 5:09:02 PM   
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I see now where all this anti-British sentiment is coming from.

You three are even bigger idiots than Hitler. At least he could paint.




it comes from facts, that which we have provided plenty and you have provided none. You dont have enough white paint to cover the shit mess your imagined 'high' road country created through out the world.






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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 5:11:56 PM   
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"he wanted the german colonies back, and the chechs even voted to be under germany with 92% of the vote."

Interestingly, a recent poll in Austria came out with the majority favoring a Nazi type government. And don't forget they elected that guy who was suicided after being made to sit in the back of parliment. The guy who the Israelis said the ELECTION of whom was a "slap in the face of democracy". His name escapes me at the moment. But they shunned him and he died under very curious circumstances, I mean moreso than the ones the Clinton Arkansawian regime got rid of. But see, you won't see much about this because of who controls the media. you have to look in goddamn archive in bumfuckt the moon or something. Like Dodge and Dunn finding the "Titles Of Nobility" act. That shit ain't easy.

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 5:13:11 PM   
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Hag something ?

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 5:42:20 PM   
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a snippet:

Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish [Zionist] tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation.

Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times.

World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. What happened?

Not a shot had been fired on German soil. Not one enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: "Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started." England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that -- seriously. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.

While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because it's a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make -- they said: "Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally." The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They told England: "We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war." In other words, they made this deal: "We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey." Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain, that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. However, they did make that promise, in October of 1916. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German, entered the war as Britain's ally.

I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. [go to war with russia and kick russias ass] The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought beside Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.

The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I.

After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war." They didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.

That is where all the trouble started. The United States got in the war. The United States crushed Germany. You know what happened. When the war ended, and the Germans went to Paris for the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know.

Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations who claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, said, "How about Palestine for us?" And they [the upright high road cough british] produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, "Oh, so that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war." The Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered the terrific reparations that were slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and were determined to get it at any cost.

That brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany. You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers -- the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. The Germans felt: "Well, that was quite a sellout."

It was a sellout that might be compared to this hypothetical situation: Suppose the United States was at war with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: "Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing." And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass. Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we had thought were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, then, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn't be enough convenient lampposts to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel.

Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so nice to them: from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact that they wanted Palestine as a so-called "Jewish commonwealth."

Now Nahum Sokolow, and all the great leaders and great names that you read about in connection with Zionism today, in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, and 1923 wrote in all their pa and the press was filled with their statements -- that the feeling against the Jews inpers -- Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by Jewish intercession in bringing the United States into the war. The Jews themselves admitted that.

It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economic. It was anything but religious. Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said "Shema 'Yisroel" or "Our Father." Nobody cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat.


Gent you can try to substitute 'politics' for facts till hell freezes over. Good luck with that because anyone who is paying attention can see it nothing more than a bullshit white wash job to cover up brit/french/us atrocities where they create the problem so they can solve it outside legitimate means and the spoils of war are illegitimate.


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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 5:47:13 PM   
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"he wanted the german colonies back, and the chechs even voted to be under germany with 92% of the vote."

Interestingly, a recent poll in Austria came out with the majority favoring a Nazi type government. And don't forget they elected that guy who was suicided after being made to sit in the back of parliment. The guy who the Israelis said the ELECTION of whom was a "slap in the face of democracy". His name escapes me at the moment. But they shunned him and he died under very curious circumstances, I mean moreso than the ones the Clinton Arkansawian regime got rid of. But see, you won't see much about this because of who controls the media. you have to look in goddamn archive in bumfuckt the moon or something. Like Dodge and Dunn finding the "Titles Of Nobility" act. That shit ain't easy.

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that because they can see that there is no democracy beyond electing our next plutocratic oligarchs. we dont vote on any damn thing in our so called 'democracy'.




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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 6:02:50 PM   
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the chechs even voted to be under germany with 92% of the vote.

The treaty of versailles had 117 zioinsts on the board giving away german lands to who ever wanted it.

Gave the danzig mostly to the poles where the poles slaughtered between 50,000 to 60,000 men women and children.



None of this is remotely true.

I would give you source reference, but you and the other two "banker/Jewish conspiracy" crusaders are bat-shit crazy and so it's pointless.

Over and out.

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 6:14:30 PM   
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you cant be serious if you think these are the only sources, its not internet 1995 anymore, the net is overflowing with the real story behind ww2 and how we are fighting to make the rich richer and the atrocities that is all being covered up knowingly or unknowingly by people like yourself who merely discuss 'politics' and military strategy as if that and a quarter would ever buy you a cup of coffee. People are fed up with the bullshit my friend.

If you think none of it is true then you better roger fucking ready to prove it, since over and out to anyone with more then 2 brain cells to rub together simply means you have no defense and are bailing before we continue to mop the floor with your theories.

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/27/2015 9:22:43 PM   
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quote:

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the chechs even voted to be under germany with 92% of the vote.

The treaty of versailles had 117 zioinsts on the board giving away german lands to who ever wanted it.

Gave the danzig mostly to the poles where the poles slaughtered between 50,000 to 60,000 men women and children.



None of this is remotely true.

Over and out.



Just to drive the point home, you dont even need to go any farther than wiki! Like I said Hitler was set up and as usual your historical information sux because its all wrong! I give you plenty of data and you simply turn a blind eye and pretend it isnt what it is!


Jew Calls for Holy War Against Germany

When Hitler had been soundly established, Samuel Untermeyer, a New York Jewish Lawyer, called for war on Germany. The call was made through radio station WABC on 8-7-33. He had just returned from a world conference of Jews at The Hague. In the broadcast, he said he was calling for a "holy war", and described the Jews as "the aristocrats of the world".

This same gentleman was connected with the Foreign Policy Association of New York and the worldwide organisation to move Jews out of Germany, not only into the United States, but to Palestine and other countries. These activities were tied in with the organisation known as the "International Boycott on German Goods", of which Untermeyer was the head!

From that time the "Hate Germany" campaign was intensified and made worldwide, with a special Jewish-organised "National Conference of Jews and Christians" assisting! These are the hate-spreaders, but they never grow tired of praising themselves. That marked the beginning of the Jewish exodus from Germany.

Danzig
Poland was given full rights to develop and maintain transportation, communication, and port facilities in the city.[4] The Free City was created in order to give Poland access to a well-sized seaport. While the city's population was majority-German, it had a significant Polish minority as well.[5][6][7] The German population deeply resented being separated from Germany, and subjected the Polish minority to discrimination and ethnically based harassment. This was especially true after the Nazi Party gained political control in 1935-36.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_City_of_Danzig




Massacre of Volksdeuterhers (ethnic Germans) by Polish military and civilians.

Most real scholars of World War Two are aware of the reasons that Adolf Hitler sent the Wehrmacht into Poland. When we look back on what we now know, it was easy to understand why England and France threatened Hitler not to invade Poland. They all knew it was inevitable and they all knew why. Most governments knew of it; but the well-spun propaganda and controlled press made it appear that a power-crazed Adolf Hitler only wanted to kill Jews and rule the world. Even today, this same false propaganda is taught in schools.

Simply put - not only was Germany herself under attack from the World Jewish community (the call to boycott all German made goods in the early 1930's) but worse yet, the Polish authorities were engaged is mass murder, rape and robbery of Volksdeutscher (ethnic Germans) living in Poland. It reached such massive proportions that Hitler, as leader of the German people, could not ignore it. He had to send in the Wehrmacht.


Chez Votes for Adolf Hitler

December.[1] NSDAP candidates and "guests" officially received 97.32% of the votes.[2]






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election_and_referendum,_1938


Balfour Declaration
A letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.[1][2]




British Government

James Gelvin, a Middle East history professor, cites at least three reasons for why the British government chose to support Zionist aspirations. Issuing the Balfour Declaration would appeal to two of Woodrow Wilson's closest advisors, who were avid Zionists.

The British did not know quite what to make of President Woodrow Wilson and his conviction (before America's entrance into the war) that the way to end hostilities was for both sides to accept "peace without victory." Two of Wilson's closest advisors, Louis Brandeis and Felix Frankfurter, were avid Zionists. How better to shore up an uncertain ally than by endorsing Zionist aims? The British adopted similar thinking when it came to the Russians, who were in the midst of their revolution. Several of the most prominent revolutionaries, including Leon Trotsky, were of Jewish descent. Why not see if they could be persuaded to keep Russia in the war by appealing to their latent Jewishness and giving them another reason to continue the fight? ... These include not only those already mentioned but also Britain's desire to attract Jewish financial resources.[15]

At that time the British were busy making promises. At a War Cabinet meeting, held on 31 October 1917, Balfour suggested that a declaration favourable to Zionist aspirations would allow Great Britain "to carry on extremely useful propaganda both in Russia and America."[16]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration


and consequently UNDERMINE any peace offering made by Germany/Hitler.

I can do this all day long. Citation after citation proving you wrong.


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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/28/2015 1:56:07 AM   
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the chechs even voted to be under germany with 92% of the vote.

The treaty of versailles had 117 zioinsts on the board giving away german lands to who ever wanted it.

Gave the danzig mostly to the poles where the poles slaughtered between 50,000 to 60,000 men women and children.



None of this is remotely true.

I would give you source reference, but you and the other two "banker/Jewish conspiracy" crusaders are bat-shit crazy and so it's pointless.

Over and out.

All throughout history, the great intellectual axiom for the serenely educated upper classes, and even I guess, the not so educated, was that anything they didn't want to believe...was not true. The two most popular were that the world was round and did revolve around the sun.

That axiom still holds today and that thinking is just the thinking that is assumed to prevail in most current sociological, political and economic debates.

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/28/2015 6:33:09 AM   
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the chechs even voted to be under germany with 92% of the vote.


All of the czechoslovakians or just 92% of those living in the sudetenland which was about 92% german?

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/28/2015 6:48:48 AM   
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this is the 1938 Sudetenland vote of course - and the result was very predictable since Henlein (leader of the Sudetendeutsche Partei) got a majority even before the Anschluß

the Czech population (those still present) could not vote because they had no German citizenship

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/28/2015 6:58:21 AM   
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"No he wasn't. He was a complete fool with no brains. "

If so, then what are you ? you have no army, no political power, shitty knowledge of history which all probably came from grade school. you have not implemented a plan of mass manufacturing automobiles like Henry Ford, who is a friend with mutual respect. you hav enot convinced anyone to take up arms against anyone else. You know nothing of running a country or a war.

So he was a complete fool who accomplished all these things and you have not. What does that make you ?

T^T

Sorry, you stepped into it. I learned long ago to not put down my betters. I mean like when I was young.




Yeah, he was a wise man. Just like the Kaiser.

What they did between them was take a nation that was performing extremely well in areas of science, philosophy, literature, music and so on; an destroyed that nation. Between them they ruined decades of German people's endeavour and creativity.

That's not very clever by anyone's standards.

He didn't accomplish anything at all. He led Germany into the abyss. I suppose that is the fault of "the bankers", "the Jews" and the "meddling British". Nothing to do with Hitler and associates you'll argue.

Wise men construct and achieve; they don't lead a nation into inevitable destruction.

Any group of leaders can pour its resources into armaments. That's hardly an achievement. All it means that when you use this arsenal other countries are going to stop you.

And, Hitler having political power is hardly something to write home about. He's the last person you'd want to have political power.


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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/28/2015 7:08:04 AM   
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this is the 1938 Sudetenland vote of course - and the result was very predictable since Henlein (leader of the Sudetendeutsche Partei) got a majority even before the Anschluß

the Czech population (those still present) could not vote because they had no German citizenship

Yes...that was my point....a further point would be if one is agreeing with oneself how does one only get 92% compliance?

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/28/2015 7:29:16 AM   
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"No he wasn't. He was a complete fool with no brains. "

If so, then what are you ? you have no army, no political power, shitty knowledge of history which all probably came from grade school. you have not implemented a plan of mass manufacturing automobiles like Henry Ford, who is a friend with mutual respect. you hav enot convinced anyone to take up arms against anyone else. You know nothing of running a country or a war.

So he was a complete fool who accomplished all these things and you have not. What does that make you ?

T^T

Sorry, you stepped into it. I learned long ago to not put down my betters. I mean like when I was young.




Yeah, he was a wise man. Just like the Kaiser.

What they did between them was take a nation that was performing extremely well in areas of science, philosophy, literature, music and so on; an destroyed that nation. Between them they ruined decades of German people's endeavour and creativity.

That's not very clever by anyone's standards.

He didn't accomplish anything at all. He led Germany into the abyss. I suppose that is the fault of "the bankers", "the Jews" and the "meddling British". Nothing to do with Hitler and associates you'll argue.

Wise men construct and achieve; they don't lead a nation into inevitable destruction.

Any group of leaders can pour its resources into armaments. That's hardly an achievement. All it means that when you use this arsenal other countries are going to stop you.

And, Hitler having political power is hardly something to write home about. He's the last person you'd want to have political power.


Hitler did what he was put in power to do. Borrow and buy with western capital. What he did to Germany was of little consequence. As long as the western taxpayers foot the bill, mission accomplished.

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/28/2015 7:59:23 PM   
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"And, of course when he said Communism and 'the international bankers', he meant: "the Jews".

And he was 100 % fucking right. And still is today.

Since stalin was anti religion including jews. Perhaps you could tell us just how well the jews did under stalin&co?

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RE: Pearl Harbor Day - 12/28/2015 9:44:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"And, of course when he said Communism and 'the international bankers', he meant: "the Jews".

And he was 100 % fucking right. And still is today.

Since stalin was anti religion including jews. Perhaps you could tell us just how well the jews did under stalin&co?

Before Stalin, it was the Jews but after 1928, then came Stalin and things changed.

Lenin the defacto leader at the time of the revolution, was also 1/4 Jewish whose maternal grandfather, Israel (Alexander) Blank, was a Ukrainian Jew who was later baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church . So in the leaders of revolution and the institutions that followed...were mostly Jews.

Well-informed observers, both inside and outside of Russia, took note at the time of the crucial Jewish role in Bolshevism. Winston Churchill, for one, warned in an article published in the February 8, 1920, issue of the London Illustrated Sunday Herald that Bolshevism is a "worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality." The eminent British political leader and historian went on to write:

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate, Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combatting Counter-Revolution [the Cheka] has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.


David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution."

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, made much the same point a few months later: "Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

"The Bolshevik Revolution, "declared a leading American Jewish community paper in 1920," was largely the product of Jewish thinking, Jewish discontent, Jewish effort to reconstruct."

In the struggle for power that followed Lenin's death in 1924, Stalin emerged victorious over his rivals, eventually succeeding in putting to death nearly every one of the most prominent early Bolsheviks leaders - including Trotsky, Zinoviev, Radek, and Kamenev. With the passage of time, and particularly after 1928, the Jewish role in the top leadership of the Soviet state and its Communist party diminished markedly.

So yes, with Stalin, the Russian (communist) revolution was a done deal and the prominent Jews, gone. But it's not hard to see the influence of industrialists, bankers and warmongers that came to dominate the west.

A very interesting read: HERE with many objective sources.

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