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Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/18/2006 3:09:24 PM   
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I don't know if this post will get many replies..but it's worth a shot

Today, an old friend of mine told me that loving yourself meant that "You ('me') learn to be the lover/love in your life that you've sought outside yourself and make it within yourself..."

What is your idea of loving yourself? Do you have a favorite mantra or saying that brought you to the place of loving yourself completely?

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/18/2006 7:25:33 PM   
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Oops I guess this post isn't about masterbation..

Mine is in order to love others, you have to learn to love yourself first. Embrace the positive and the negative, change what you can and learn to live with what you can't.

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/18/2006 7:27:51 PM   
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Of course I love myself, if I didn't, then no one else would want too.

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/18/2006 7:39:30 PM   
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I don't love everything about myself.

But I love my potential, and that's what I nurture with my self love.

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/18/2006 8:04:44 PM   
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i love and like myself.  My own words to live my life by were given to me by my Mother,  Whatever you do always ensure you can look yourself in the mirror in the morning.  Throughout my life that is the rule i live by and i am passing the same rule to my kids.

As i started out in this kinky life i sought to find out more about myself as i am a firm believer if you dont know and like yourself how can you offer yourself to another?

No i am not perfect (although i am a legend in my own mind) there are things i could do better etc, however life friends and family are the most important, my profession is what affords me the life i am living so it does not rule me. 

great question everyone should ponder this imho

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/18/2006 8:43:17 PM   
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Prolly wayyy too much! HAR!



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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/18/2006 8:54:57 PM   
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Not always. I have plenty of (sometimes daily) ups and downs in this regard - although I generally fake it well (I think), on the prinicple that if you fake it, you'll feel it, eventually. There are days and weeks that I do really love myself, though, and in general, I think my level of self-esteem in more healthy than not.

When I am feeling blue or down on myself, I try to remember what my mother used to say (she never,  ever in her life, it seemed, had a bout of lack of self-confidence): "Well, I just can't imagine anyone not wanting to be with me or talk to me; I am so much fun!"
(and she meant it - and she was fun and interesting, so it wasn't all hot air, or just bragging or inflated ego. She had a lot of interesting insights and read a lot and really was funny).

Somehow, I feel I will never muster up her level of self-confidence. But, it's nice to have someone in my immediate family who tried to teach me how to try to do that.

- Susan

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 12:29:25 AM   
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i try :)

i find touchy feely things, like journal writing, sark's books, free association, and lots of naps tend to aid in my endeavour to love myself.


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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 1:23:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: irishbynature
Today, an old friend of mine told me that loving yourself meant that "You ('me') learn to be the lover/love in your life that you've sought outside yourself and make it within yourself..."
Irishbynature
Irish, my first though was
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Lashra
Oops I guess this post isn't about masterbation..

Seriously, I think I am in a place now to honestly say I love myself and mean it... 

I got here by 1)embracing my shortcomings and accepting being fallible/imperfect, 2)recognizing that I am a decent human being with some very worthwhile qualities, 3)I do pretty well in terms of treating others as I'd like to be treated, 4)I don't measure myself against anyone else, and revel in the fact that I am unique; 5)I pray and have a strong family/friend support system; 6)I'm relatively smart, not bad looking, and can be a lot of fun, lol...  
I still have insecurities, and much growing to do in terms of acting in a way that shows love of myself as much as others, but I figure we are all works in progress while on earth.   M

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 1:37:04 AM   
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If I was a woman looking for a partner I wouldn't choose me.

I've never quite understood this self love line. I can't really find anything about myself to fall in love with. That being said, I am at ease with myself and care little what other people think about me.

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 2:47:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

Of course I love myself, if I didn't, then no one else would want too.

You hit the nail on the head cuddle.....very wise words indeed.
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ORIGINAL:Owned1
i love and like myself.  My own words to live my life by were given to me by my Mother,  Whatever you do always ensure you can look yourself in the mirror in the morning.  Throughout my life that is the rule i live by and i am passing the same rule to my kids.

I will try this!
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ORIGINAL:BlkTallFullfig
got here by 1)embracing my shortcomings and accepting being fallible/imperfect, 2)recognizing that I am a decent human being with some very worthwhile qualities, 3)I do pretty well in terms of treating others as I'd like to be treated, 4)I don't measure myself against anyone else, and revel in the fact that I am unique; 5)I pray and have a strong family/friend support system; 6)I'm relatively smart, not bad looking, and can be a lot of fun, lol...  
I still have insecurities, and much growing to do in terms of acting in a way that shows love of myself as much as others, but I figure we are all works in progress while on earth.

Thanks for such a truthful and soulful reply:)
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ORIGINAL: fullofgrace
i find touchy feely things, like journal writing, sark's books, free association, and lots of naps tend to aid in my endeavour to love myself.

I too love to write in a journal...and take naps!

SusanofO...love the honesty, thank you.
Caretakr and meatcleaver, Lashra.....loved your thoughtfulness as well.

Hugs ...again thanks everyone who replied
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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 2:53:48 AM   
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I am learning to love myself, it has been a long process.
 
It's hard to accept that I can be flawed and I can still be happy with myself.  I have my good days, and my bad ones.  There are days when I have the confidence of a goddess....and then the days where I just wanna hide my head under the covers and go away.
 
I hope this will get better as my journey continues..and I do long for the day when I can say that I love everything about myself.  Until then though, I can say I am a pretty cool chick..and I love myself a bit more every day.
 
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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 11:48:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: irishbynature

I don't know if this post will get many replies..but it's worth a shot

Today, an old friend of mine told me that loving yourself meant that "You ('me') learn to be the lover/love in your life that you've sought outside yourself and make it within yourself..."

What is your idea of loving yourself? Do you have a favorite mantra or saying that brought you to the place of loving yourself completely?

Thanks
Irishbynature



I have learned to love myself. Learned to accept myself. Learned to trust myself. Nothing special about it though; just part of growing up and maturing.

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 12:04:18 PM   
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"Love myself?" Only when I'm masturbating!
Like, yes and others seem to as well.

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 12:13:57 PM   
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It is only thru Self-Love that we can truly love another and be loved by another.  When we love ourselves, we know that we deserve love.  We can accept it, realize it and not be suspicious of it.  We do not need to seek validation outside of Our relationship.  We can feel secure because we know we deserve to be treated correctly.  We can fully love another because We can let go of that "What if...." scenario because people cease to be opportunities and experiences.  Loving somebody who does not love themselves is very sad and frustrating.  They never believe Your love is true.  They dont think they deserve You.  They seek validation from others, and self fulfill the destruction of the relationship by betraying the One who truly loves them thru their insecurities and self doubt.  It is heartbreaking.

The first love affair is the one with yourself.  It's the most important one.

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 12:47:47 PM   
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Can someone tell me where the idea came from that only through self love can we really love someone else?

I have never considered narcissim to be a positive trait. It's healthy to be comfortable with oneself and be confident but love......?

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/19/2006 1:10:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tikkiee
I have learned to love myself. Learned to accept myself. Learned to trust myself. Nothing special about it though; just part of growing up and maturing.


Thanks for posting this. It feels like hope.  

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RE: Do you really "Love Yourself?" - 7/22/2006 2:50:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Can someone tell me where the idea came from that only through self love can we really love someone else?

I have never considered narcissim to be a positive trait. It's healthy to be comfortable with oneself and be confident but love......?


A Narcisist does not "Love" themselves in a healthy way.  Read the tale of Narcisist... He died looking at his own reflection in the water and that is where the term "Narcisim" comes from.  The Moral of the story is obsession with ones own IMAGE will kill you.  That is not self love.  Most people who stare into the mirror alot are insecure and trying to convince themselves they are ok or if they change something about the way they LOOK people will then love them, or they will then love themselves.  People have plastic surgery, lose massive amounts of weight, etc. and find they still hate themselves because its an inward struggle, not an outward problem.  We deal with this all the time in the Transgendered world.  Self loathing makes people do radical things to change themselves sometimes in an attempt to gain acceptance.  If you hate yourself, you cannot accept or give love.  You dont understand what love is.

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