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chattelmansub -> For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/9/2015 7:16:43 AM)
I would like to know what you offer as individuals to a potential master? What you want and need and so seek from a potential master in return for being owned and cared for and protected by him?

OsideGirl -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/9/2015 10:01:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chattelmansub I would like to know what you offer as individuals to a potential master? What you want and need and so seek from a potential master in return for being owned and cared for and protected by him? Your post is the fantasy based version of D/s. The reality is that it's a symbiotic relationship with a power dynamic. I care for him and protect him as much as he does for me. I am not a one dimensional character in a BDSM novel, so the list of what I bring to the table spans many sections of life. We are people first, M and submissive second.

DesFIP -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/9/2015 10:22:30 AM)
I'm not a slave. I'm his and that's different. I offer the same things he does; love, caring, protection. I just do it from the other side. But we didn't meet as master and slave. We started as friends, became lovers, and slowly grew into trusting each other enough that the level of power exchange turned into this.

DarkSteven -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/9/2015 7:26:03 PM)
?? 1. The distinction between sub and slave is individually defined. So the definition depends on who does the defining. 2. It is entirely possible for a person to be slave in none relationship, sub in a second, and a Dom/me in a third. It's not the intrinsic property of an individual that you imply. The other person in the relationship has a huge influence.

chattelmansub -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/9/2015 9:58:15 PM)
Few responses except from the usual idiots who like to cause trouble. That said there are obvious diverse opinions and none actually answer the question itself. I am not here hiding. I often have many serious threads but the delivery micky takers of others threads and the liberal use of the convenient slang term sock puppet are decisive and solve nothing. They create problems and that is the sole reason a number of you spend 18 hours day here. What is the point and what is achieved by it that is positive? Nothing whatsoever. Now back on topic please.

chattelmansub -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/9/2015 10:01:40 PM)
This website has many inbuilt design faults and often changes spellings once the send button is pressed. This can cause a sentance to be out of place in context. So back to what the topic is about.

OsideGirl -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/10/2015 1:01:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven ?? 1. The distinction between sub and slave is individually defined. So the definition depends on who does the defining. 2. It is entirely possible for a person to be slave in none relationship, sub in a second, and a Dom/me in a third. It's not the intrinsic property of an individual that you imply. The other person in the relationship has a huge influence. It goes beyond that though - the primary reason that the majority of D/s BDSM relationships fail is because they go into them using D/s and BDSM acts to define compatibility. After a few months of good kinky sex, they realize that they don't even like the person they're with. Which is the "fantasy" aspect of the OPs post. Going into a brand new relationship with the concept of "Master" and 'ownership' before it's even started is like going on your first date expecting to get married. In the end, it's a relationship. If you want long term you should be more concerned about core values and similar life goals rather than acts. At the height of Castlerealm (blech) I was invited to dozens of collaring ceremonies, in all of the Castlerealm fluffiness. (One "slave" was owned by 3 different "Masters" in one year) Out of all of the ceremonies, only one couple is still together. Also, the OP assumes a one sided concept that the female submissive is a helpless thing. While I love the fact that he is caring and protective of me, he's not doing it because he is a "Master", he's doing it because he's my partner in life. I do the same for him. Next, we can give a beat down to the concept that "submission is a gift".

malefica -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/11/2015 7:56:49 AM)
I'm going to answer outside of the relationship. As in, while that is the main reason we entered into a dynamic, I can at least attempt to answer the aforementioned. - He likes my creativity with rope. - I do various chores around the house. - Versatility - Individuality and independence. But those are also qualities that have drawn us together outside of kink. Our relationship is a combination of tastes and aesthetics, kink and vanilla.

zombiegurlsos -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/11/2015 8:21:41 AM)
perhaps to restate what this means to me slavery is a goal, but to find the right one to be owned by you have to start as a submissive....

peppermint -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/11/2015 12:59:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chattelmansub Few responses except from the usual idiots who like to cause trouble. That said there are obvious diverse opinions and none actually answer the question itself. I am not here hiding. I often have many serious threads but the delivery micky takers of others threads annbant masoxhist and needed to search for a slave who was willibg to obey his do mne list.d the liberal use of the convenient slang term sock puppet are decisive and solve nothing. They create problems and that is the sole reason a number of you spend 18 hours day here. What is the point and what is achieved by it that is positive? Nothing whatsoever. Now back on topic please. I am not sure what the problem is that you have with the other answers you received. Each came up with great answers. Their answers were not confrontational nor were they written to cause any trouble. I believe their replies were sincere answers to your very broad question. Mine will be similar. I have always thought of BDSM relationships as being simbiotic. He receives companionship, a willing masochist for his sadistic side, someone to love, someone to share expenses. I received companionship, a sadist to match my masochistic side, someone I eventually loved, as well as someone to share expenses. To be truthful, these are only a few of benefits. There is someone to cuddle with on a cold night, someone to laugh at a joke, someone to share the national parks, and oh so many things. I remember reading a profile many years ago written by a self proclaimed male slave. He not only listed everything he was willing for his Mistress to do to him, he also listed the percentage of their time together that she was to do each activity. He became very angry when I suggested he was a dominant masochist and needed to seek a sadistic slave willing to stick to his do me list.

WickedsDesire -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/13/2015 12:42:32 PM)
I know of no slave anywhere, ever, spanning all of my time and existence - and was banned epochs ago from that forum on felife for saying that weird place ban no one disproving all of I, even part me, a common occurrence. Wretched slave urchins do not exist anywhere. I cannot even cite 0.1% of the population of submissive...the odd one will exist but these creatures are the stuff of myth and folklore. The exact origins of slave 1, patient zero, I am not sure as to its origins. Your question is not so much about definition. It is invalid and does not exist. Many claim to be slaves, many openly boast about it bites lip

crazyml -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/13/2015 1:07:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chattelmansub This website has many inbuilt design faults and often changes spellings once the send button is pressed. This can cause a sentance to be out of place in context. So back to what the topic is about. Hmm.. Does this sort of thing happen to you a lot? I'm pretty sure that the site has never once changed my spellings "once the button is pressed". So when I read "sentance", I'm betting it's not the site that's modified your spelling and that you're just a bit illiterate,

LadyPact -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/13/2015 1:28:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml quote: ORIGINAL: chattelmansub This website has many inbuilt design faults and often changes spellings once the send button is pressed. This can cause a sentance to be out of place in context. So back to what the topic is about. Hmm.. Does this sort of thing happen to you a lot? I'm pretty sure that the site has never once changed my spellings "once the button is pressed". So when I read "sentance", I'm betting it's not the site that's modified your spelling and that you're just a bit illiterate, Saw this on the scroll. Ummm... No, it doesn't. Every typo, misspell, and grammatical error that I've ever made, was on me. The site didn't do it. Perhaps you should check the auto correct on your electronic device. As to the original, and since you asked about female slaves in particular, I'm going to tell you now that I know some amazing women. One in particular, she and her Master used to be members here. The better question would be what doesn't she do for him. You never saw two people so much in love. The perfect yin to the yang. If it is possible for a person to do, she made him better and it wasn't exactly an easy task. From the time they get up in the morning (you should see the coffee service) until the time they go to bed at night, their lives are filled with love, laughter and fun. I tell him rather frequently that he's one of the luckiest son of a b^tches alive to have b as his slave. I often ask her if she has a brother just like her.

stef -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/13/2015 3:58:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chattelmansub This website has many inbuilt design faults and often changes spellings once the send button is pressed. This can cause a sentance to be out of place in context. Yes, I'm sure the site is changing the spelling of your posts. Funny how this only seems to be happening to you. Time for new tinfoil perhaps?

DarkSteven -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/22/2015 12:50:38 AM)
The claim is that there is an app associated with this site that selects properly spelled words of a single user and deliberately changes them. Very creative thought, but beyond illogical and ridiculous.

Wayward5oul -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (12/23/2015 5:23:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Next, we can give a beat down to the concept that "submission is a gift". I second that motion.

LilJuly76 -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (1/9/2016 2:56:08 PM)
I usually use compatibility as a key. Most Dominants that I have been involved with say I'm very much a slave (BDSM context) and sometimes in a relationship I am, but it depends on the relationship and the compatibility, I start off slow, relationships don't always work out. I have had relationships where I just played with people, I didn't consider myself a slave, I considered myself a play sub. I also don't like the submission is a gift line.

Sheilasockpuss -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (1/10/2016 4:58:35 AM)
You really should have a large erect cock in you're mouth OsideGirl to keep you occupied.

SlavePusskins -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (1/15/2016 2:32:47 AM)
Opinions are diverse just as those who have them are diverse. We form them from our own experiences and our own prejudice and bigotry. We are none of us perfect. Real slaves do exist. 15 years ago a UN second report stated over 33 million were legally owned. Not all nations outlaw slavery. In the USA only enforced slavery is illegal (unless the state are more precisely the ruling elite financiers and industrialists dictate otherwise). Consensual agreement to be owned by someone is not actually illegal but is also not formally recognised either so is a grey area. Not everyone is born to be free and not everyone wants to be free. Owning another person is a serious responsibility and cannot be taken lightly ever. No owner can be such if they abdicate that responsibility. We all have different perspectives and so will never agree. Up until the end of the nineteenth century husbands still owned there wives. A free woman knew she became a man's property when she married him and so lost her freedom. Her happiness was determined by her husband masters own attitude and his care and protection and looking after children and the home and still subjecting herself to satisfy her husbands sexual needs.

SlavePusskins -> RE: For women defining themselves as a slave rather than a submissive! (1/15/2016 2:47:55 AM)
Most women are attractive and curvaceous and we who are dominant do not just want to have a relationship with a women, we want to own and control them and possess their bodies has our property. Women are one of the universes most fantastic creations and are very desirable. Few men admire other mens bodies but most women admire other women's natural naked beauty. We are not perfect and our bodies have flaws. They change has we grow older and are less desirable but still wanted and needed. A woman looking at her own naked body after bathing will not appreciate her body that much yet others viewing it may take a more positive view. Frankly. A woman who is loving and obedient and who surrenders herself to a man has his property is the most highly prized and valuable property any dominant man can own be he rich or poor. Such servile women must be looked after and protected and provided for.

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