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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/15/2015 9:30:39 AM   
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To the OP...

BDSM does not involve in anything illegal. It had nothing to do with it or encourages it. When people post, "I'm paying a woman for sex" this has nothing to do with BDSM. It's prostitution and it's illegal. It's only in the BDSM community where they don't view prostitutes as sexually exploited women. It's only in the BDSM community where they don't believe prostitutes usually have drug problems. Just google "Prostitution and Drug Abuse" to find out.

Just saying....



It's only idiots who believe that all prostitutes have drug problems, just saying.... Some people who tend to get out a bit more know that in most parts of the civilized world it's legal, and that a certain type of guy is trying to take away the right of women to do what they want with their bodies by spreading BS, just google it.

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/15/2015 2:18:09 PM   
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To the OP...

BDSM does not involve in anything illegal. It had nothing to do with it or encourages it. When people post, "I'm paying a woman for sex" this has nothing to do with BDSM. It's prostitution and it's illegal. It's only in the BDSM community where they don't view prostitutes as sexually exploited women. It's only in the BDSM community where they don't believe prostitutes usually have drug problems. Just google "Prostitution and Drug Abuse" to find out.

Just saying....

What exactly does BDSM stand for where you live?



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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/15/2015 7:23:45 PM   
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To the OP...

BDSM does not involve in anything illegal.



Actually, not true. The law in the US considers BDSM to be assault and the law's view is that you cannot consent to assault. As BDSM has become more mainstream, there's been less enforcement of that law, but that doesn't mean that the law doesn't exist.

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/15/2015 8:50:05 PM   
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To the OP...

BDSM does not involve in anything illegal. It had nothing to do with it or encourages it. When people post, "I'm paying a woman for sex" this has nothing to do with BDSM. It's prostitution and it's illegal. It's only in the BDSM community where they don't view prostitutes as sexually exploited women. It's only in the BDSM community where they don't believe prostitutes usually have drug problems. Just google "Prostitution and Drug Abuse" to find out.

Just saying....

I love it when someone is so mentally ill that they think they are the mouthpiece for a Huge-HUGE group of people that are involved in bdsm or otherwise known as the lifestyle.
And what's even better is not only is he speaking for every single person in said group, he is absolutely wrong in just about everything he stated in this post PERIOD.

oh and how did Mr. Mental Health end his post? ~ just sayin'

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:06:06 PM   
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So there is "no other clients." Just me. I'm not being fooled by her because prostitutes do not french kiss their clients and spend the night just for $100.00.






I think they call that girlfriend experience, but yeah, for $100 a night you get that damned cheap, you are underpaying her!



Dude, first of all, why on earth would you pay a woman for lunch? You can find plenty of women on dating sites who will have lunch with you for free.

I hear so many people say, "I paid her $100 for the hour." Then all these women come on and say that's dirt cheap. You are underpaying her. I've heard people say at least $200 per hour is a fair price.

These women scoff and spit at the $100 saying it's not really making much. Wow, so many hard working people working minimum wage. After taxes, $100 could be two days work. I don't respect any woman who scoffs at $100/hour because she doesn't respect money. No wonder why those women are always broke and financially desperate.

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:17:40 PM   
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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:21:40 PM   
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Fucking men for a living should pay minimum wage?
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Well I would look at it like this. If she cannot make minimum wage, I am pretty sure I would not want to see her. Lol

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:23:09 PM   
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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:34:44 PM   
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Dude, first of all, why on earth would you pay a woman for lunch? You can find plenty of women on dating sites who will have lunch with you for free.

This is the part of your post I agree with.

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I hear so many people say, "I paid her $100 for the hour." Then all these women come on and say that's dirt cheap. You are underpaying her. I've heard people say at least $200 per hour is a fair price.

Since I just said this on another thread, I'll explain.

If you are talking about an actual PRO DOMME, with dungeon set up, equipment, and all that goes with it, you have to remember they shell out a lot of money for that stuff. I'm a lifestyle Domme and I've put a lot of money into my toy collection over the years. If people were paying me, I'd take the money I've already invested into account.

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These women scoff and spit at the $100 saying it's not really making much. Wow, so many hard working people working minimum wage. After taxes, $100 could be two days work. I don't respect any woman who scoffs at $100/hour because she doesn't respect money. No wonder why those women are always broke and financially desperate.

Not broke. Not desperate. I've worked blue collar in my day and I am acquainted with what it takes to earn a living.

At the same time, if I was a pro, I already know how much I've invested in acquiring topping skills and what my experience would be worth on top of the other things I've already mentioned. Depending on the location and the comparable rates, it would still be average.


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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:38:58 PM   
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I don't respect any woman who...


Have we discovered any woman that you DO respect?


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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:54:56 PM   
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So there is "no other clients." Just me. I'm not being fooled by her because prostitutes do not french kiss their clients and spend the night just for $100.00.






I think they call that girlfriend experience, but yeah, for $100 a night you get that damned cheap, you are underpaying her!



Dude, first of all, why on earth would you pay a woman for lunch? You can find plenty of women on dating sites who will have lunch with you for free.

I hear so many people say, "I paid her $100 for the hour." Then all these women come on and say that's dirt cheap. You are underpaying her. I've heard people say at least $200 per hour is a fair price.

These women scoff and spit at the $100 saying it's not really making much. Wow, so many hard working people working minimum wage. After taxes, $100 could be two days work. I don't respect any woman who scoffs at $100/hour because she doesn't respect money. No wonder why those women are always broke and financially desperate.



Darling, she's not serving burgers for minimum wage, she's letting some dude fuck her, for that it is cheap, you could add a freaking 0 on and I wouldn't do it. And sorry, I'm everything but broke and financially desperate, but then I also don't work for minimum wage.

I really have no problem if a woman decides she wants to work as a prostitute. it's her body after all, so why shouldn't she charge, nobody is forcing you to buy.

When it comes to pro dommes, you'll be lucky if you find anybody for $200, and that's pretty damned cheap, because dungeons cost rent, the furniture isn't cheap, nor is leather latex and all the tools, takes a while to clean up and sterilize, also takes a while to get the skills.

Simple facts of life.

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:55:24 PM   
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This guy is paying a woman for a "girlfriend experience." There is no mention of him paying for a Pro-Domme. Where did you get him paying for a Pro-Domme come from?

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:59:09 PM   
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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 3:59:10 PM   
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Why are all you woman saying he is paying for a Pro-Domme? He is paying for a prostitute. He is also paying for a "girlfriend experience." This has nothing to do with BDSM.

It sounds crazy to me to pay for a "girlfriend experience." Just go on a dating site and you get it for free.

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 4:06:06 PM   
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@LadyConstanze

Why are all you woman saying he is paying for a Pro-Domme? He is paying for a prostitute. He is also paying for a "girlfriend experience." This has nothing to do with BDSM.

It sounds crazy to me to pay for a "girlfriend experience." Just go on a dating site and you get it for free.



I didn't say he was paying for a pro domme, if you go back, he pays for GFE, something pretty intimate and usually not offered as cheaply as $100.

Yeah, guys just go on a dating site and they get sex on tap for free, uhhh, really?

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 4:16:37 PM   
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Darling, she's not serving burgers for minimum wage, she's letting some dude fuck her, for that it is cheap,


Minimum wage in CA is $9. He said, "$100 for the night". At 8 hours, $100 works out to $12.50 an hour. That's cheap. Especially, if he's getting the GFE.


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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 4:16:46 PM   
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I didn't say he was paying for a pro domme, if you go back, he pays for GFE, something pretty intimate and usually not offered as cheaply as $100.

Yeah, guys just go on a dating site and they get sex on tap for free, uhhh, really?


So why did you bring up Pro-Domme then? I've always noticed when a guy says he paid a certain price for a hooker, all these women come up and say, "Well, Pro-Domme's make at least $200.00." And then they give the reasons why. What does a hooker have to do with a Pro-Domme?

Yes, a person can create a profile on a dating site and meet women. Yes, a man can develop a relationship with a woman. Yes, a man can have an intimate experience with a woman.

OP, I've read your posts and it seems to me that you think all women are whores. THEY AREN'T! There are a lot of decent women who won't charge you anything to have lunch with you. You don't have to pay for a "girlfriend experience."

AND PAYING FOR A WHORE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BDSM!

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 4:20:20 PM   
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This guy is paying a woman for a "girlfriend experience." There is no mention of him paying for a Pro-Domme. Where did you get him paying for a Pro-Domme come from?

Did you miss the part where I said:

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Since I just said this on another thread, I'll explain.




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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 4:28:26 PM   
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I didn't say he was paying for a pro domme, if you go back, he pays for GFE, something pretty intimate and usually not offered as cheaply as $100.

Yeah, guys just go on a dating site and they get sex on tap for free, uhhh, really?


So why did you bring up Pro-Domme then? I've always noticed when a guy says he paid a certain price for a hooker, all these women come up and say, "Well, Pro-Domme's make at least $200.00." And then they give the reasons why. What does a hooker have to do with a Pro-Domme?

Yes, a person can create a profile on a dating site and meet women. Yes, a man can develop a relationship with a woman. Yes, a man can have an intimate experience with a woman.

OP, I've read your posts and it seems to me that you think all women are whores. THEY AREN'T! There are a lot of decent women who won't charge you anything to have lunch with you. You don't have to pay for a "girlfriend experience."

AND PAYING FOR A WHORE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BDSM!



It was simply an example about prices in the adult industry, since pro dommes don't engage in sex, it's usually cheaper than escorts, there are some who do both under different profiles and the prices for the escorting are considerably higher.

We are not talking about dating and meeting a woman, what he has is sex on tap, completely different. Apples and oranges.

Also apparently you don't have any idea what GFE is, it's not having lunch, it's sex like you would have with your girlfriend, French kissing included and sex without a condom, pretty risky if you ask me and underpaid with $100

And why do you feel the need to call the woman a whore? Look, as I said, I wouldn't be willing to do that job, but that's me and my personal feelings, if a woman is OK with it, it's her business, she doesn't deserve to be called a name. I seriously never get it if people are all gung ho about prostitutes, without buyers there wouldn't be sellers, and oddly enough porn stars do the same, they perform sex acts for money, the only difference is that there is a camera rolling.

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RE: A Question About Relationships - 12/18/2015 4:31:55 PM   
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There are a lot of decent women who won't charge you anything to have lunch with you. You don't have to pay for a "girlfriend experience."




Apparently, the OP feels otherwise. Because, if you look at his posting history, it's all the same theme repeating.

He lists himself as a "switch" which usually means sub - and I think he gets off on having to pay.


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