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Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/10/2015 1:46:04 PM   
Aylee


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Why they are calling this "groomed" I don't understand. They were raped, straight-up.





One of the teenage victims of a major grooming ring uncovered by police in Rotherham was forced into sexual relations with men on an almost daily basis and used as a commodity to settle her abuser�s debts, a court has heard.
The girl, who was in and out of care from the age of 12, was allegedly taken around the country and made to perform sexual acts on many men, becoming pregnant twice, once when she was only 14.

She had just turned 16 and was still in the care of the local authority when she was forced into sexual relations on almost a daily basis, the jury was told. She terminated the first pregnancy but later gave birth to a boy who was looked after by her mother.

The girl is one of 12 allegedly groomed in a child sexual exploitation ring led by seven people, including two sets of brothers and two women, who are accused of 51 counts of abuse at Sheffield crown court.

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The violence allegedly became regular and no one in the victim's care home expressed concern when she returned bloodied or shaken from encounters with the defendants, prosecutor Michelle Colborne QC told the jury.

Colborne said the victim recalled that on one occasion she ran away from Hussain but he caught her and bundled her into the boot of a car and set off to a house in Tottenham, north London, where she was asked to have sex or engage in oral sex with five men, all in their 20s....


"She was beaten, had a cigarette stubbed out on her chest, she was tied up, she was raped orally, vaginally and anally from a very young age, often by numerous men, one after the other, at the say-so of Arshid Hussain. She was insecure and vulnerable and believed he was her boyfriend."





http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/10/rotherham-grooming-ring-targeted-teenagers-over-three-decades-court-told



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RE: Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/10/2015 2:01:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		It sounds like a lot more than just rape. Grooming implies how devious an effort was made to draw these victims into doing such acts, probably willingly most of the time. Of course, consent doesn't apply due to their ages.

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RE: Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/10/2015 2:22:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

It sounds like a lot more than just rape. Grooming implies how devious an effort was made to draw these victims into doing such acts, probably willingly most of the time. Of course, consent doesn't apply due to their ages.


Remember, this involved 1400 girls. One thousand four hundred. Enabled and facilitated by the state.

It is awful that they keep calling it "grooming" and "abuse."

Makes it seem mostly inconvenient and unfair rather than decade long sexual slavery and continual gang rape.




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RE: Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/10/2015 2:31:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's exactly assholes like theses that needs the caning if prosecuted in my country! And then after that, just freaking put them to death. Their life is worthless to keep.

I don't think they were trivializing it by calling to grooming and abuse because they did further describe rape as part of the abuse that happen.

When they get charge, it's probably gonna be everything, grooming, abuse, rape, everything.

BTW, I can't help but notice these guys are possibly Muslims with Muslim names.

But the thing is, it's called grooming because that's how they gain the girl's trust in the first place. It sounds like it started out as consensual which developed into violence eventually.

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RE: Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/10/2015 2:45:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Your OP said "one of twelve". Nonetheless, the gory details have to be sanitized in the story's lead paragraphs.

And Greta hit it head-on. This wasn't just rape. Rape is over & done, physically, in a relatively short time. This is much worse.

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RE: Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/10/2015 2:55:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Your OP said "one of twelve". Nonetheless, the gory details have to be sanitized in the story's lead paragraphs.

And Greta hit it head-on. This wasn't just rape. Rape is over & done, physically, in a relatively short time. This is much worse.


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28955170

The entire thing encompassed 1400 victims in Rotherham. That does not count Rochdale or Manchester.

I think we should call it state-sanctioned sex slavery.


But hey, they are wanting to ban Trump, so that should make girls safer /sarc

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RE: Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/10/2015 5:05:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

Your OP said "one of twelve". Nonetheless, the gory details have to be sanitized in the story's lead paragraphs.

And Greta hit it head-on. This wasn't just rape. Rape is over & done, physically, in a relatively short time. This is much worse.


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28955170

The entire thing encompassed 1400 victims in Rotherham. That does not count Rochdale or Manchester.

I think we should call it state-sanctioned sex slavery.


But hey, they are wanting to ban Trump, so that should make girls safer /sarc


Its complicated, so I know you wont get it. The event you posted about is about twelve criminals, including two women.

The fact you mentioned the racist arsehole Trump makes light of your own thread.

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RE: Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/10/2015 7:23:54 PM   
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Only 12 criminals?

Wow. Talk about denial.

Nothing about the state sanctioned sex slavery?

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RE: Prosecutors Detail Rotherham Rapists' Hellish Abuse - 12/11/2015 4:28:12 PM   
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PS

Only 12 criminals?

Wow. Talk about denial.

Nothing about the state sanctioned sex slavery?


The only person in denial is you.

State sanctioned slavery ?.......... FFS you get more delusional by the day.

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