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Greta75 -> British Version of American Sniper! (12/14/2015 9:47:37 PM)

Movie! Movie! Please!

A veteran SAS sniper killed five Islamic State (ISIS) fighters with just three shots to foil a suicide bomb attack in Iraq. The sniper, who has served with the SAS for a decade, decided to shoot after he spotted the five Daesh (IS) fighters leaving a bomb making factory whilst wearing heavy and warm clothing in the desert sun.

He fired three well-aimed shots from 800 metres away, killing five of the over-dressed jihadis near the IS-controlled Iraqi city of Mosul. In August this year, another British sniper saved the life of a Shiite man and his eight-year-old son, who were seconds from being executed by the extremists after soldiers spotted the pair surrounded by headless bodies.

Of the three rounds fired, the first shot hit a man in the chest, detonating his suicide vest, killing him and two other jihadis nearby. This was followed by a man shot in the head as he tried to get back into the bomb factory.

The final shot detonated an explosive vest worn by another IS fighter - killing him instantly. The operation was said to have saved "hundreds of lives".

"This was a classic SAS mission," said a British Army source to the Express. "About three weeks ago the intelligence guys got information that a bomb factory had been set up in a nearby village. With just three well-aimed shots, that single team has probably saved the lives of hundreds of innocent people. The unit was sent in to see if they could identify the house and the bombers," the source explained.

"There were too many civilian homes nearby and children were often around so an airstrike was out of the question. Instead, the SAS commander in Iraq decided to use a sniper team and the operation was a complete success."

Mosul is located in the north of the country and fell to Daesh after much of the Iraqi army dropped their weapons and fled. Having seized Mosul, IS took control of Tikrit and parts of Baiji.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/fight-against-isis-sas-sniper-002417698.html



PeonForHer -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/15/2015 5:31:08 AM)

Indeed.



Staleek -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/15/2015 6:19:03 AM)

5 kills with 3 bullets.

Sounds like bullshit. American Sniper was already a huge mound of steaming bullshit, we really don't need an English version of that crap to embarrass future generations of English people.

But it down to a squadie having one too many.



Aylee -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/15/2015 8:59:49 AM)

I think there have been several British snipers that have out did themselves.



PeonForHer -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/15/2015 1:03:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Staleek

5 kills with 3 bullets.

Sounds like bullshit. American Sniper was already a huge mound of steaming bullshit, we really don't need an English version of that crap to embarrass future generations of English people.

But it down to a squadie having one too many.


I wouldn't mind betting that it was pretty commonplace during WW2. But, not something that would get me excited one way or another. I haven't watched American Sniper and have no interest in seeing it either.



jlf1961 -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/15/2015 2:39:08 PM)

Actually, with the statement that the sniper hit the explosive vests, I buy the story.

There is a credited statement from both sides that during the Stalingrad siege, a Russian sniper managed to get the perfect shot, three germans standing in a chow line, one shot punched through all three.

There is the Russian after action report, and the Wehrmacht report on the incident.

Now, as far as American Sniper goes, the movie was embelished a bit and I consider it more propaganda than actual fact, and I dare say there is a a lot of the story that is going unsaid.

As far as the SAS are concerned, having had the opportunity to train with them in the early 80's on the off chance of joint operations, those guys are some of the best marksmen on the planet. Where as physicicist come up with "thought experiments" I have seen SAS snipers come up with target experiments to cover just about any possible circumstance then spend days to solve the problem on how to make the shot.

An SAS sniper still holds the record for the longest shot resulting in a kill, although there is some debate when you talk to a few Navy SEALS.

So, yes, speaking as an ex army sniper, I believe the story, having witnessed some of the shots these guys set up for "fun."

Now for those who disbelieve the story, there is a international competition for military snipers. The SAS competitors are consistently top scorers.



PeonForHer -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/15/2015 3:06:28 PM)

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Now for those who disbelieve the story, there is a international competition for military snipers. The SAS competitors are consistently top scorers.


Quite possibly. I don't care, though, because being good with guns and killing people just doesn't matter to me. I wouldn't even be interested in a news story about this, much less a film. Tedious.



jlf1961 -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/15/2015 3:22:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:


Now for those who disbelieve the story, there is a international competition for military snipers. The SAS competitors are consistently top scorers.


Quite possibly. I don't care, though, because being good with guns and killing people just doesn't matter to me. I wouldn't even be interested in a news story about this, much less a film. Tedious.




I quite understand your point.

Unfortunately, with the human race as it is, some of us either have to develop that skill or utilize a natural talent.




BamaD -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/15/2015 4:45:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Actually, with the statement that the sniper hit the explosive vests, I buy the story.

There is a credited statement from both sides that during the Stalingrad siege, a Russian sniper managed to get the perfect shot, three germans standing in a chow line, one shot punched through all three.

There is the Russian after action report, and the Wehrmacht report on the incident.

Now, as far as American Sniper goes, the movie was embelished a bit and I consider it more propaganda than actual fact, and I dare say there is a a lot of the story that is going unsaid.

As far as the SAS are concerned, having had the opportunity to train with them in the early 80's on the off chance of joint operations, those guys are some of the best marksmen on the planet. Where as physicicist come up with "thought experiments" I have seen SAS snipers come up with target experiments to cover just about any possible circumstance then spend days to solve the problem on how to make the shot.

An SAS sniper still holds the record for the longest shot resulting in a kill, although there is some debate when you talk to a few Navy SEALS.

So, yes, speaking as an ex army sniper, I believe the story, having witnessed some of the shots these guys set up for "fun."

Now for those who disbelieve the story, there is a international competition for military snipers. The SAS competitors are consistently top scorers.

How many innocent people would have died if the vests had gone off where the wearers planed, while many don't like to admit it snipers often save the lives of innocents (in todays environment) and allies traditionally. War is ugly but once you are in it anything that protects your people has merit.



Greta75 -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/16/2015 12:01:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Staleek

5 kills with 3 bullets.

Sounds like bullshit. American Sniper was already a huge mound of steaming bullshit, we really don't need an English version of that crap to embarrass future generations of English people.

But it down to a squadie having one too many.

No idea why would you feel embarrass at your soldiers risking their own lives, saving the lives of innocents over there from suicide bombers.

They are far braver than you just sitting at home and doing nothing but defend Islam who oppress women right down to dictating their dress code. I admire them because I could never be so brave as to risk my own life in the middle east defending innocents over there being killed by extremist Muslims.

There is another great movie called Machine Gun Preacher. Although he didn't join the Army, but he took it upon himself as a good Christian to go after Bad Christians, to go to Sudan to free child soldiers from their evil Christian Terrorists. Those guys arm children to fight their wars. It's ugly. But he bothered going over there to face the ugliness and do something about it. It probably involves guns too, to defend the innocent kids, and I admire him too. It's a true story.

I'm still waiting for a great true story from some awesome Muslim warrior who put his own life at risk to fight Muslim Terrorists and free child soldiers ISIS is now gathering now.



Dvr22999874 -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/16/2015 12:50:36 AM)

Staleek. I have a better one for you to check out. Google 'The Port Arthur Massacre'...............35 dead and a couple of dozen wounded. John Howard (our then Prime Minister) used this incident as his lever to bring in our stringent gun laws. He would never have got them passed otherwise.
When you have looked this up, consider some very strange 'facts'........the guy was mentally retarded, using a weapon he had never used before (an SKS) and yet it is reckoned he was scoring one for one with every shot !!!! To misquote Shakespeare......."something in the State of Tasmania was decidedly rotten''



Staleek -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/16/2015 2:59:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

No idea why would you feel embarrass at your soldiers risking their own lives, saving the lives of innocents over there from suicide bombers.


The difference between someone sacrificing themselves for a bit of mud and grass with a certain coloured flag on it and someone else sacrificing themselves for some other fatuous belief is zero.

The only difference between a suicide bomber and a special forces soldier on a suicide mission is clothing and skin hue.



Real0ne -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/16/2015 5:42:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

Staleek. I have a better one for you to check out. Google 'The Port Arthur Massacre'...............35 dead and a couple of dozen wounded. John Howard (our then Prime Minister) used this incident as his lever to bring in our stringent gun laws. He would never have got them passed otherwise.
When you have looked this up, consider some very strange 'facts'........the guy was mentally retarded, using a weapon he had never used before (an SKS) and yet it is reckoned he was scoring one for one with every shot !!!! To misquote Shakespeare......."something in the State of Tasmania was decidedly rotten''


something horrible, then (war) and/or new legislation follows? damn what a coincidence! Who'd thwunked it



Real0ne -> RE: British Version of American Sniper! (12/16/2015 5:48:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Actually, with the statement that the sniper hit the explosive vests, I buy the story.

There is a credited statement from both sides that during the Stalingrad siege, a Russian sniper managed to get the perfect shot, three germans standing in a chow line, one shot punched through all three.


damn sure not center mass unless he was using a 50



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