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Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 1:17:48 PM   
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I just watched a National Geographic show called "The Human Family Tree" in which some geneticists took DNA samples from a bunch of people at a street fair in Queens NY.

First lets address race (aka skin color/eye lids):

Genetically speaking, the DNA for skin color and eye lid formation is less than .001% of the genetic makeup of the human being, and (shock for white supremacists) being fair skinned is a genetic mutation brought on when humans migrated out of Africa to cooler climates.

In other words you racist "white is superior" morons, we are mutants.

Heavier eye lids were adapted to deal with sunlight reflected off snow, another mutation.

Race is skin deep.


It seems that modern humans bebopped their way out of Africa and headed not to Europe first, but to central Asia (Europe was covered with these things called glaciers.)

Now, once in central asia, as the ice sheets receeded, some of them took the route into Europe and became in a couple of thousand years, fair skinned, to absorb as much sunlight as possible so the body could make vitamin D.

Now, a branch took a southern route and ended up in Australia, got cut off when the oceans rose, and became a bunch of lunatics driven crazy by big jumping critters and found out that swimming in rivers was detrimental to your health (big mother fucking crocs.)

Now some on the this route took to the oceans and settled in Oceana (all those freaking islands in the Pacific.)

Some of the folks in Asia took off across the land bridge into North America.

Now, the kicker, up until about 60,000 years ago, no one had left Africa! So for the longest period of human evolution, we were all dark skinned and wearing loin clothes dealing with the lion that figured hunting people was a hell of a lot easier than chasing down a freaking antelope that runs 40 miles an hour.

Bottom line, there are no "races" we are all mutants.

Religion.

Despite what Hawking said, I still go by the idea you dont get anything from nothing. So something had to trigger the big bang.

So, for the sake of argument, lets say there is some supreme being who decided to create the universe.

First, considering how big the universe is, they is no way this creator would put life on just one rock, if life was a conscious decision on his part.

Second, considering that every religious manuscript on the planet today was written by a human, albeit maybe dictated by this supreme being, humans still had final editing powers, so to take the bible, Torah, Quran as the absolute final word of God is a bit like taking anything ANY human says as the absolute truth.

In other words, read the religious text of your choice, understand that it was transcribed by humans, who knows how many times, and that humans are going to put their spin on it just to get it to say what they think he/she (GOD) wanted it to say.


AND UNTIL THE CUBS GO UNDEFEATED AND WIN THE WORLD SERIES IN FOUR GAMES, dont believe that any omnipotent deity figure is getting involved with people on this rock.

Lets face it, we have done our best to destroy each other and this planet since the dawn of man.

And no, the native americans were not good stewards of the land, because before the horse got back to the Americas, the easiest way to kill buffalo was to stampede them off cliffs, killing the entire herd. And even the largest band of Indian would not use that much meat so it was left for the vultures and other scavengers.

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 2:17:53 PM   
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Well said

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 2:36:33 PM   
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A humor piece?
The Australian Abo bit and the last paragraph are remarkably superficial and inaccurate conceptions of 'primitive' peoples who actually had profound and deliberate effects on the land. And deep understanding of the ecology and resources available to their technology. Most were fine stewards of the land, with obvious long term deficits in places, that were minuscule compared to Western Technology and it's blindness to effects beyond the Quarterly Profit bottom line. Since the steel tipped plow permitted breaking the Buffalo Grass plains for mass monoculture, the over 12" average topsoil of the Corn belt has been reduced (in less than 100 years) to an average of 3" to 4" at best. This topsoil had been building since the retreat of the Ice Cap, 12 to 20 thousand years ago. There is no evidence pre-Columbian tribes had any negative effects on the soil anywhere. In the Amazon Basin, the farming practices of Biochar fertilization are still evident in enhanced soil fertility on their plots. Estimates range up to 50 Million tribes people lived there till European diseases preceded Western human contact. Poor stewards??
The cliff ambush locations were quite rare, and even then, very undependable food sources till horses were available to 'herd' appropriate size groups of buffalo into the disguised entry funnel fencing, where their stampeding was useful. Even then these were feast and famine resources, hardly what a community can live on.
Horse hunting Buffalo tribes were an artifact of post-Columbus contact and never were more than a small minority of the North American native populations. In the great plains, pre-Columbian tribes seriously outnumbered the later buffalo nomads and were settled farmers much of the year, traveling in season to exploit other resources. These relatively peaceful settlements were enslaved, killed or driven off by the few nomadic hunters after they adopted the horse. Their new tactical mobility making them all-conquering raiders. (Described by several authorities as maybe the best Light Cavalry ever.) Previously no tribes had enough access or regular supply of herds to depend almost entirely on them. Their gardens, however, were dependable and sufficient for year round living in small territories.
The Eastern Woodlands were profoundly altered by deliberate human effort. Tree distributions were very 'unnatural' as beneficial food trees and other useful species were obviously propagated, and the controlled use of fire kept the forest an open canopy for ease of travel and hunting. Modern regrowth forest, even climax forest, is far different from the landscape described by all the early explorers who kept journals we can still read. European minds simply didn't recognize the signs of humans everywhere, as there were no fences, gates, formal gardens (monoculture), buildings or property defenders. The typical pattern in the forest outside the more settled communities in the SouthWest and the 'Five Nations', where larger communities and towns were emerging, was to farm small gardens of mixed species in season, exploit any seasonal abundance of natural harvest (Special emphasis on preservable foods to Winter over) and hunt every where opportunity or need occurred. Seasonal temps had great influence on many native life styles and movements. Higher in Summer, lower in cold weather.
Like any intelligent being, changes that made life better were constant. Planting useful species around their various seasonal camps was practiced world wide even by hunter/gatherers. Partly or fully settled agricultural communities groomed even more. Everywhere humans hunted, species declined, flourished or disappeared depending on the dynamics. As did many plants. Nowhere were humans inconsequential actors on the land and ecology. With dispersed populations, many effects increased the carrying capacity of the ecology and eased life. Over-population almost always decreases carrying capacity and simplifies or ruins ecologies. Industrial agriculture does this even faster and to more profound levels.

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 3:15:21 PM   
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Not so much humor as sarcasm.

So, a primitive band of nomads numbering 60 individuals routinely stampeding 300 or four hundred bison over a cliff is good stewardship?

The biggest impact to the Mega Fauna of the Americas was after humans crossed the land bridge. There are over a dozen places in Texas alone where the the fossilized remains of buffalo and other large animals lie at the bottom of a cliff with well over a quarter million individual specimens of various large species found.

The Cherokee practiced slash and burn farming, burning the forest down, then farming the area till the ground was played out before moving on. All you need to do to find settlements dating back a few thousand years is to rent a helicopter and fly over the area. Even where the forest 'recovered' you can see distinct differences.

And I am quarter native American and even I dont believe the bs about the Indians treating the land better than the whites.

As for the steel covered plow, the best thing it did in the American grain belt was to eliminate a native species of locusts, other than that it pretty much screwed the land up.

As it turns out, the 'modern' low impact farming techniques of scratch and plant are the same as the first farmers 30,000 years ago.

As far as religion goes, I will guarantee you that God is up there looking down at every preacher, priest, Imam and whatever screaming "THAT IS NOT WHAT I SAID!!!"

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 3:26:09 PM   
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And the Australian aboriginals used to start forest fires to drive the game out, thus eliminating thousands of animals they didn't need for food and thousands of acres of forest. I call that EXCELLENT stewardship.

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 4:09:07 PM   
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And the Australian aboriginals used to start forest fires to drive the game out, thus eliminating thousands of animals they didn't need for food and thousands of acres of forest. I call that EXCELLENT stewardship.


So fucking what? They weren't catering for 7 billion were they? Left to their own devices they would have done just fine

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 4:13:33 PM   
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Apart from turning large areas into desert or wasteland and wiping out a few species of wildlife, yes they were doing fine. And like Englands good king Richard, some of them were cannibals too, so yes again, they were doing just fine...................at least until the last one was eaten, they would never have been short of a snack.

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 4:22:18 PM   
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Apart from turning large areas into desert or wasteland and wiping out a few species of wildlife, yes they were doing fine. And like Englands good king Richard, some of them were cannibals too, so yes again, they were doing just fine...................at least until the last one was eaten, they would never have been short of a snack.

WTF has King Richard got to do with your post about aboriginals? They were there, doing just fine although their wifi was a bit patchy.... twat

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 4:27:19 PM   
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There speaks an expert.................and we have another name caller. Get the teacher into his playground to spank his botty.

Come to Australia and live among for a while mate. Even THEY will tell you they were starving a lot of the time, diseased most of the time and suffering from a great variety of different intestinal worms. Until then, go and fuck your shoes.

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 4:29:11 PM   
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And I used King Richard as an (possibly too obscure) example because there is the off chance you may have heard of him. He too was a cannibal...........see the connection ????

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 5:30:13 PM   
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Fire as ecological tool is far more complex and nuanced than any above post seems to grasp. Abo use wasn't unique to the area Anywhere. Natural fires everywhere tend to be more random and spaced than deliberate ones. This has both plusses and minuses, mainly Minuses. As fuel builds on the land, fires become more intense and large area. Often far more destructive of both wildlife and both plants and the soil community they live in and above. Seasonal fires (Few humans are dumb enough to light fires when they may grow to intensities that risk their own community and selves, other than modern pyromaniacs.) are the rule by hunters and gathering cultures. Much of the US Eastern Forest was regularly burned of shrub and ground cover in the cool of the Fall, when the forest canopy would survive well. Otherwise travel other than by boat on waterways would have been difficult to impossible in many areas, and hunting anything but small ground animals 'unproductive'.
The body count of regular fires in open ground typical of many areas in Oz are quite low. The mobile animals move ahead (to waiting hunters, by design) or to the side of the fire path. Most animals who aren't fast enough who've survived humans take advantage of burrows and other underground safety. Regular fires rarely reach the intensities and duration to cook soil and suffocate burrowing animals. 10 to 20 year natural fires (Absolutely inevitable until someone eliminates all Lightning) or even less common, on the other hand, are land and ecology altering in an order of magnitude greater. Species abundance below topsoil, in it, and above, of all phylum, reflect the fire history, short and long term. The same as it reflects the water and temp history of the location. There are no 'good' patterns, just different ones. The repressed fire practices in the Mountain West of the US is now showing the error of nearly 100 years of letting fuel build on the land. Combined with the gentrification of many wilderness areas, solutions are now desperately being explored.
In the true absence of fire, many 'normally seen' animals simply can't survive, and others flourish. The faster prey animals depend on open space to escape. The concealment prey animals have to have cover, the denser the better, for many. Flourishing predators are adapted to the ecology and prey at present. All available ecological niches Are filled, sparse human populations alter ecologies the same as any species. Only dense human populations impoverish whole ecologies. Till the various natural controls (The 'evil' parasites and diseases 'cursing' Abos, for instance) and undeveloped technologies kept many human populations relevant to their surroundings. Towns and cities that depend on mass agriculture enable and depend on environmental pressures that destroy ecologies, impoverish soils, exhaust water resources and often degrade to surviving on waring on less profligate neighbors for sustenance.
I'm not aware the Cherokee deviated from the garden/farming pattern elsewhere in North America, where each planting was accompanied by 'fertilization' (often a fish in each hole that seeds were dropped in.) and most plant growth was left on the land as cover for the Winter, maintaining fertility, preventing erosion and remaining useful cover for hunted small animals that helped feed the village, Not used as feed for livestock. How the Europeans exhausted soil quickly everywhere. (Biofuels suffer the same objection, soil fertility plummets when all growth is harvested.) The problem with developed communities and slash and burn, is the village has to have land resources that don't belong to other villages or tribes to move to. Hardly the case in the fairly well populated SouthEast. And a good location is never abandoned unless necessary. As trade was crucial, trails and navigable waterways defined excellent locations as much as soil and water.
Besides, assessments of the SouthEast peoples is a study of a catastrophic remnant of the previous emerging civilization. The De Soto expedition found emerging city states everywhere, and spread devastating European diseases to all that they didn't murder outright, on their path. Town on raised earth mounds with stockade exterior walls were almost the rule, with emerging ruling and priest classes, not all that far behind the stone building cultures of Mexico and the rest of all Central America. We know less of the Mound People of the Mississippi Valley but their constructions strongly imply mobilizing large numbers of people regularly. The landscape of the SouthEast was a hundred years all but neglected by humans as the native peoples returned to small group hunting and gathering as they struggled to survive in a new world where highly contagious diseases (Flu, etc.) no one had any immunity to caused mass deaths whenever more than a small group gathered. (The cultures in the NorthEast seem to have survived better, cold winters breaking contagion cycles?)
We are just starting to dig into the details of the pre-Columbian cultures and their millennium or longer Stable reign on the land and the details of their cultures and land practices. We know even less of the mass of peoples living in the South American forests and lowlands as most had vanished to the new diseases before any European penetrated to their areas. The Spanish recorded the peoples of some of Central America, and the Andes, before they slaved most out of existence, then ruined much of the arable land with cattle and sheep. Live stock that have ruined ecologies most everywhere they are herded. We now know land productivity overall harvesting the natural game preserves ecologies far better, provides more and better meat, but doesn't profit Individuals and specific communities near as well as domestic animal husbandry. Australia is just now coming to confront just how inappropriate transplanting the English ag and animal husbandry models to a drought plagued continent has proven.
Modern deep well technology is fast destroying most aquifers world wide, particularly in the Western US. Those that aren't over tapped are often being poisoned by Fracking! The pre metal cultures simply didn't have the technology to do even a fraction of the damage Technological Man does casually.

There was nothing 'Noble' or all that sustainable to any human culture, nor were diseases and parasites absent anywhere before Western Medicine. But the low technologies most everywhere meant damage was Slow and limited. Hawaiians were slowly lowering the productivity of much of the Islands, as in many areas were a few manage to profit from the labor of many. As human powers over their environments grew, damage escalated. We now believe we live ON the planet, on In it. This illusion is now being rudely shattered by a number of dynamics, Planetary Heating from the Greenhouse Effect is only getting more press. Soil and water use is now completely unsustainable most places, while population growth sadly lags any relevant technology to feed, clothe, water and house the masses. To say nothing of provide the energy and raw materials a consumer culture that is sweeping the Earth demands. We haven't defeated any of the forces controlling natural populations, we have only temporarily countered a few, so the population bloom and inevitable crash will be that much more devastating.

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 6:10:19 PM   
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This is exactly how worked up I get over General Hospital.

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 6:23:44 PM   
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They just got Jason Hayward from my beloved Cardinals... they just may do it.....

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/15/2015 8:57:15 PM   
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Race is skin deep.


It seems that modern humans bebopped their way out of Africa and headed not to Europe first, but to central Asia (Europe was covered with these things called glaciers.)

So for the longest period of human evolution, we were all dark skinned and wearing loin clothes

Bottom line, there are no "races" we are all mutants.

Religion.

Despite what Hawking said, I still go by the idea you dont get anything from nothing. So something had to trigger the big bang.



Second, considering that every religious manuscript on the planet today was written by a human, albeit maybe dictated by this supreme being, humans still had final editing powers, so to take the bible, Torah, Quran as the absolute final word of God is a bit like taking anything ANY human says as the absolute truth.

In other words, read the religious text of your choice, understand that it was transcribed by humans, who knows how many times, and that humans are going to put their spin on it just to get it to say what they think he/she (GOD) wanted it to say.


Lets face it, we have done our best to destroy each other and this planet since the dawn of man.

And even the largest band of Indian would not use that much meat so it was left for the vultures and other scavengers.


uhg white man no injun, speekum withum forked tongue

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Millions of buffalo once lived in Kansas. Plains Indians hunted the buffalo for food. Sometimes they ate part of the meat raw. Most often, meat was roasted or boiled in water over a fire. All meat from the hunt could not be eaten at once. Indians learned to preserve the meat by cutting it in strips and drying it. This long lasting food was called jerky.


They made jerky, and jerky if kept dry can be stored for a very long time. the indians left virtually nothing to waste, however there are only so many uses for bones once you have 20,000 needles. That is why they were considered good stewards.


As far as races are concerned, I cant remember a time where I agreed with the word since what is really being said when the word racism is being used is 'culturalism'.
Its the: those people are different from me therefore they must become like me or they are heathens head up le ass mindset.

Thats the beauty of gubblemint, it destroys all religions hence cultures so we can be one big happy family and sit around the campfire singing kum-by-ya.

big bang, agreed you cant get something from nothing unless you are the federal reserve bank, they have learned how to defy all the laws of physics and do it on a regular basis. Big bang is small thinking. try vortex, everything in nature is a vortex, where there is expansion there is also contraction somewhere else.

Religion is essential, its self governance of the individual according to ones will. Of course now days gubblemint atheists are at war with the people who think for and govern themselves where probable cause is now probable suspicion accoring to the iowa supreme court and 1st clearly states you have the right to obey the government and exercise its religion.





For mutations the human race can be traced back to central africa by genetic markers and people did not turn white because they moved into snow territory, the original tribes were fearful of albinos and banished them. well next thing ya know they started fucking and ya got all kinds of whitees running around in the mix.





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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/16/2015 10:39:53 AM   
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Race is most definitely not skin deep. That is one of the biggest lies ever told. Know how I know ?

Because a thousand years from now they will be able to tell your race from your remains, and I mean even WHICH SIDE of a mountain you came from. This is one of those contradictions that brings their whole politically correct theory into question.

Thus, I do not believe in this single point origin of homosapiens. I am NOT asserting it is not true, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. the difference here is that I distrust the source enough NOT TO ACCEPT IT AS FACT. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN CLAIMING IT IS NOT TRUE, understand ?

It is worse than global warming really. I do not deny global warming but I dispute the magnitude, or scope of it, how much of it is actually anthropologically induced and more importantly what should be done about it.

Again, I do not claim it to be untrue.

With the single point origin of homonsapiens, do you also claim that all breeds of dogs had a single point origin ? It would have to be, because the ONLY evidence of it is that the various breeds can successfully mate. (sometime with disastrous results I might add) that shit about the Adam and Eve chromosomes, tell you what, try human DNA with ape DNA and get back to me. They won't fucking do it, why ? WHY WON'T THEY TRY IT ? They got past stem cell research and fetal tissue, why not this ?

If successful it would certainly prove evolution to the fundies. But then they would have to kill us...

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/16/2015 4:37:21 PM   
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...try human DNA with ape DNA and get back to me...


excuse me---what exactly are you saying here?

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/16/2015 8:16:58 PM   
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Race is most definitely not skin deep. That is one of the biggest lies ever told. Know how I know ?

Because a thousand years from now they will be able to tell your race from your remains, and I mean even WHICH SIDE of a mountain you came from. This is one of those contradictions that brings their whole politically correct theory into question.

Thus, I do not believe in this single point origin of homosapiens. I am NOT asserting it is not true, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. the difference here is that I distrust the source enough NOT TO ACCEPT IT AS FACT. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN CLAIMING IT IS NOT TRUE, understand ?

It is worse than global warming really. I do not deny global warming but I dispute the magnitude, or scope of it, how much of it is actually anthropologically induced and more importantly what should be done about it.

Again, I do not claim it to be untrue.

With the single point origin of homonsapiens, do you also claim that all breeds of dogs had a single point origin ? It would have to be, because the ONLY evidence of it is that the various breeds can successfully mate. (sometime with disastrous results I might add) that shit about the Adam and Eve chromosomes, tell you what, try human DNA with ape DNA and get back to me. They won't fucking do it, why ? WHY WON'T THEY TRY IT ? They got past stem cell research and fetal tissue, why not this ?

If successful it would certainly prove evolution to the fundies. But then they would have to kill us...

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well I did a quick search and found this The Human Journey - In Search Of Human Origins I have not looked into this in several years so I dont know if there are any new or different theories.





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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/16/2015 8:48:22 PM   
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Well I am not sure anybody knows anything...for sure. Man for 500,000 years had nothing more than the wheel and fire, then for about 50,000 years created sharpened tools and finished iron. But then...

.....in the last few centuries of the ensuing 6-8,000 years, we put a man on the fucking moon and hitting everything we shoot at in the solar system with a rocket ship ?

I've written it before and still believe whether it was a god or who else but mankind was fucked with over the years and either god or that somebody just maybe had to wait for us to eat more protein and grow our brains...before it all took hold.

There are those that will tell you and I agree, that man didn't advance over the few millenia since the last ice age...man is recovering what he had. At least, some of them anyway.

As for racism and religion...ignorance and fear.

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/17/2015 4:24:30 AM   
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".....in the last few centuries of the ensuing 6-8,000 years, we put a man on the fucking moon and hitting everything we shoot at in the solar system with a rocket ship ? "

More than that, a comet, they damnear did it. And we got data coming in from outside the solar system now.

Who did that ? The most conquering, greedy, nasty races on this planet. Driven to excellence by greed and the want for fame. To be able to tell others "Look what we did". And that includes the Russians. They beat us into orbit, so we had to beat them to the moon.

AND WHO IS US ? It is we, who had our Parents assimilate into the system here, who took and chose the US as our country and were proud to serve to make it better, rather than bleed it dry like people do today. At one time, USian was a race, but now we got people who want this society to adapt to them, after their society which was adapted to them either rejected them, or they rejected it. Muslims in Canada wanted all pork taken out of the school cafeteria. WTF ! You can't just tell your kids not to eat it ?

People have different body chemistry and dietary requirements. Orientals cannot live on the same food as Swedes, South Islanders have a really weird diet and the jails in Florida had to hire someone to make the stuff they eat. And from what I heard, that shit is so gross to me I would starve.

And then you got the pork issue. First of all, there is such a thing as an allergy, or at least something like that, for pork. My Maternal Grandmother had it. She said she likes pork but it doesn't like her. Now, in later life it seems my Mother is developing the same thing. Seems hereditary.

So Jews do not eat pork. Now we all know better about the Bible now, it was written by Men. If they got ahold of some ergot or other hallucinogen, that would explain alot, especially Leviticus. But my own family seems to prove that a physical intolerance for pork might be genetic. Maybe I'll get it if I live long enough.

I have read alot on that, one Dr claims that people need different diets based on their blood type. Now, of course always the "racist" I wonder if certain blood types are more common in certain races.

Skin deep. Well what about Tay Sachs and Sickle Cell ?

Many Jews today are not Hebrew, and I am not sure who exactly gets the Tay Sachs. but at one time they were of those 12 tribes or whatever and genetically linked with the Muslim/Arab/whatever and both groups do not eat pork. Cause and effect - could it be that a significant part of their people had the intolerance to pork ?

And they both circumcise. Could both have been more prone to phimosis ? Phimosis can kill a male infant if not detected in time once prolapsed. Were these tribes more susceptible to these conditions ?

Much of this is questionable, and the politically correct do us a disservice by not taking race into consideration when doing medical tests and a few other things. Like say a doctor "Every fucking Italian I have seen is allergic to this drug" but it would be politically incorrect to stop prescribing that drug to Italians, or to publicise the fact. One doctor came up with an idea for a drug for Blacks that combined a blood pressure med along with something else. He wanted to help but got ostracised as a racist.

You go ahead and ignore race. And die and live poorly. you go ahead and be politically correct and soon someone will be able to sue you for saying "You stink". If they DO stink, it might not be their fault and you hurt their feelings. If it isn't true it is slander. you pay either way, no matter the race.

Yeah, the human race, to the bottom.

T^T

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RE: Racism/DNA/Religion - 12/17/2015 4:38:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
As for racism and religion...ignorance and fear.


people in general, and perhaps liberals in particular, are too quick to attribute to others with whom they disagree, or have different values, motivations that appear to diminish them. its both wrong to do, and incredibly arrogant/ignorant at the same time.

assuming for sake of conversation that "religion" can be defined as collections of spiritually minded people seeking some codifications and practices of their beliefs---then we can rather say that "religion" is more about people cultivating a relationship with god than it is about anything else.

is there some aspect of "fear" involved in that? yes, but its minimal and its not of the same nature of the kind of fear I am pretty sure you are referring to.

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