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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This is something you have done your self....
Or i would like a source.
Otherwise ill declare shennannigans and obfuscation plus a fair amount of bullshit.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

So you have an original source for the pictue itself.?
Thats no more believable than you are.
Cite it or quit pulling my dick

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

As i said you n your co worker thought the ranking were just gundeaths. Their ranking is to do with more than deaths So you wasted an afternoon and got it wrong....good job its a friday.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

So no link no proof the figs are even accurate and you expect me to even look at it without laughing.....
You're nuts.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

You are a bigger joke than i thought, un sourced material is not fact. Its fiction without data.
You can rabbit shit all day but without sources its just bullshit opinion

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

It's all propaganda till 'gun deaths' are separated into actual classes of events. Accidents, suicides, homicides, etc. High gun ownership states have higher accident and suicide rates by guns. DUH! Background checks help these?? Whether total suicide rate corresponds to gun ownership needs more study. The US has nothing like the suicide rates of several low gun ownership countries near the Arctic Circle, implying terrible weather is a bigger factor, along with alcohol use and cultural attitudes. These others are completely different problems than homicides, the area where background checks and close monitoring of gun sales and transfers may help.
Last I remember, a number of US areas had more suicides by gun than homicides. Which isn't even close to stats from urban centers with low gun ownership and lots of low income neighborhood crime and drug gang wars that spike homicide rates. When intramural gang wars are separated out, US gun death numbers plummet. Not sure it's useful to even consider gun laws affecting a culture that is importing over $100,000,000,000 (Yes, Billions) of illegal drugs into the country yearly. If anyone really needed a lesson in the futility of restrictive laws, minus a massive cultural imperative to solve a problem, the Drug War is the poster child. We have the most imprisoned society ever seen on Earth, and the biggest drug problem in the First World, by a factor of about 10. If Hollywood spent a quarter of the effort against violence and drug use they spend promoting addictive products and commercial product placement in general, both the gun violence and the drug problems in the US would vanish.

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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I wonder what the NRA are going to make of this...
http://gunlawscorecard.org/

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ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious

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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I wonder what the NRA are going to make of this...
http://gunlawscorecard.org/

Lol I know that chart is bullshit. It says Texas doesn't require background check. I had to wait a week for mine to come back. Left wing propaganda is all I can say to that

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

It's all propaganda till 'gun deaths' are separated into actual classes of events. Accidents, suicides, homicides, etc. High gun ownership states have higher accident and suicide rates by guns. DUH! Background checks help these?? Whether total suicide rate corresponds to gun ownership needs more study. The US has nothing like the suicide rates of several low gun ownership countries near the Arctic Circle, implying terrible weather is a bigger factor, along with alcohol use and cultural attitudes. These others are completely different problems than homicides, the area where background checks and close monitoring of gun sales and transfers may help.
Last I remember, a number of US areas had more suicides by gun than homicides. Which isn't even close to stats from urban centers with low gun ownership and lots of low income neighborhood crime and drug gang wars that spike homicide rates. When intramural gang wars are separated out, US gun death numbers plummet. Not sure it's useful to even consider gun laws affecting a culture that is importing over $100,000,000,000 (Yes, Billions) of illegal drugs into the country yearly. If anyone really needed a lesson in the futility of restrictive laws, minus a massive cultural imperative to solve a problem, the Drug War is the poster child. We have the most imprisoned society ever seen on Earth, and the biggest drug problem in the First World, by a factor of about 10. If Hollywood spent a quarter of the effort against violence and drug use they spend promoting addictive products and commercial product placement in general, both the gun violence and the drug problems in the US would vanish.

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ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious

And he's rigth BTW states with stricter gunlaws have higher gun related crime. That's on the FBI charts you posted. Seems that you're the one that's trying to manipulate the data. Typical liberal! Nothing but lies...

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious

And he's rigth BTW states with stricter gunlaws have higher gun related crime. That's on the FBI charts you posted. Seems that you're the one that's trying to manipulate the data. Typical liberal! Nothing but lies...

that picture, is one that ifmaz made up himself.
The original came from the site I posted wanting to know what the NRA will make of it....

Someone went over it in a paint program and added parts, which is WHY I called it bullshit. He posted it without a source, a cite or a weblink. It has nothing to back it up, he just posted it as if it was the holy grail.
But nice try.


BY the way, YOUR insistence, my second link showed only 6000 deaths(by race) which means that the FBI is wrong.... is so much idiocy in one sentence I had to take the night off.
at the bottom of the page are the following "notes"

1 The ethnicity totals are representative of those agencies that provided ethnicity breakdowns. Not all agencies provide ethnicity data, therefore the race and ethnicity totals will not equal.
2 Includes American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian; Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
NOTE: This table is based on incidents where some information about the offender is known by law enforcement; therefore, when the offender age, sex, and race are all reported as unknown, these data are excluded from the table.

THe information is just a subset of the main data that claims 11k gun deaths.
Of course if you can come up with government data (that states only 6000 were killed) go right ahead....otherwise... its not me thats the liar.
you havent proven me to be wrong, neither has ifmaz. All you have is your own belief system, and obfuscation. you changed the goalposts so many times you couldnt even keep up with yourself.
If you are an independent, Im the queen of narnia