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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

It is very hard for good cops to respect others when they have no respect for the cops.

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I honestly never really had trouble with the police and have a lot of respect for most of them, however this was a pretty shitty case and there were a lot of cases where I think they definitely went way way overboard, in my eyes, it's a bad thing because it diminishes the good cops who really joined because they want to do what's right. I'm kinda surprised that there isn't more of a movement from within the police force to clear those things up and regain trust and respect.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Yep. Pretty much waiting to see the reaction in the city. A lot of people tried to make sure the prior demonstrations were peaceful or kept peaceful. We'll see.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I honestly never really had trouble with the police and have a lot of respect for most of them, however this was a pretty shitty case and there were a lot of cases where I think they definitely went way way overboard, in my eyes, it's a bad thing because it diminishes the good cops who really joined because they want to do what's right. I'm kinda surprised that there isn't more of a movement from within the police force to clear those things up and regain trust and respect.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I honestly never really had trouble with the police and have a lot of respect for most of them, however this was a pretty shitty case and there were a lot of cases where I think they definitely went way way overboard, in my eyes, it's a bad thing because it diminishes the good cops who really joined because they want to do what's right. I'm kinda surprised that there isn't more of a movement from within the police force to clear those things up and regain trust and respect.

I think the cops in the van, unless there has been even more evidence withheld, screwed up big time. Negligent homocide seems reasonable, but murder 2?

They must have changed something in the Baltimore Dept. considering how crime has skyrocketed since the Freddy Grey case came up.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I really don't see much hope for more than one or two convictions of the six charged. I'm thinking the prosecutor expected one of them to testify against all of the others, or some other TV court show drama.

By overcharging, the juries will all be confused. Go to court with charges you can prove without a reasonable doubt, even if you can only get one or two on even manslaughter.

Civil court would be much different, but then it will be the City on trial.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I don't know if I am a cynic, but is the prosecutor trying to appease the masses and possibly aiming for a political career, hence going way overboard?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I don't know if I am a cynic, but is the prosecutor trying to appease the masses and possibly aiming for a political career, hence going way overboard?

It looks that way.
Which is not to say that none of the cops did anything wrong.
They failed to follow procedure, it requires them to put prisoners in seat belts.
It certainly seems that the officers in the van were at least negligent. I think to the point of criminality. But other than playing to the mob I can see no reason for charging everyone who got near the van.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Let me clarify, I think the majority of cops do a great job, therefore they should be interested in not having bad apples who give all of them a bad name.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I don't know if I am a cynic, but is the prosecutor trying to appease the masses and possibly aiming for a political career, hence going way overboard?

It looks that way.
Which is not to say that none of the cops did anything wrong.
They failed to follow procedure, it requires them to put prisoners in seat belts.
It certainly seems that the officers in the van were at least negligent. I think to the point of criminality. But other than playing to the mob I can see no reason for charging everyone who got near the van.

By going overboard they are actually harming the case, it's actually stupid unless there is something going on in the background to give the guilty parties as little legal punishment as possible by deliberately effing up, which could be another angle, while appearing to be all gung ho about the case...

I think it might be pretty hard to find evidence that they wanted to deliberately hurt or harm the prisoner unless they'd admit to it, but he got harmed while being in their custody and due to their "neglect", I think that should be serious enough to throw the book at them.