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Fifth Republican Debate - 12/17/2015 4:34:41 AM   
Greta75


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Status: offline 		I just took the time to watch the whole thing.

Wow! Wow! Wow!

Few Thoughts.

Carly Fiorina - She brought up that the government should seek private company help and they would help. But then I fact checked on this online and other medias has claimed that the government has approached Apple and Microsoft to give them a backdoor to encrypted messages, and the companies have refused because they feel that if they put a backdoor exclusive for the US government, eventually Russia and China will be able to hack into it.

Clearly cyber security is a complex issue. So the issue now is, when terrorists use these encrypted messages worldwide, US intelligence are unable to read them. Catch 22. I don't know what the solution is. Trump might still be going somewhere here about temporary ban of ISIS zones access to the internet, IF this was even possible to achieve technically.

But over all, Carly just lacks charisma and she's regurgitating the same old thing over and over again.

Ted Cruz - I feel like his like George W Bush Version 2. Anyway, looks like IF Trump is nominee, he will be the VP candidate. They seem to have tag teamed!

Marco Rubio - It's just me that I will never support anybody who can't handle personal finances properly to be head poncho of any country. So I just can't take him seriously. Because he actually has to find this money and make money grow to implement alot of things he wants to implement.

Rand Paul -I get it that his fiscally conservative to the extreme. Put him as President, I think they wouldn't be able to spend anything, there will be cuts for practically everything, be like totally function on basic skins mode! But is he really socially conservative? I don't know.

Kasich - Not a good idea to tell people you hate politics, especially when you are running for President. You are suppose to love your job!

Carson -Ever since it can't be verified his a stabber. His ratings tanked. This is some of the strange things of this election ha! He was one of my favourites though. But of course anything military and war strategies was out of his depth as his a surgeon who saves lives, not plot to take lives.

chris christie - I've always loved plump guys, big fetish for them, I got to admit, I am most physically attracted to him, and his a straight talker, just like me. I really like him but I know he stands no chance, but I believe if we meet, we'd really get along in conversations.

Jeb! - I can see he has already stopped fighting and admitted defeat. His mission in this debate is to discredit and make Trump look as stupid as possible. He practically spent ALL his time to speak telling Trump he will never be President! Ha! Didn't get to hear any new ideas from him at all. It was quite amusing the squabbling between those two!

Trump - my favourite man to win, all i can do is critique his performance. First of all, I think he was a little over confident. It sounds like the republican party has assured him, the nominee will be strictly by the votes, and not some earlier rumour that regardless who wins, they already pick their candidate, so his all confident it's gonna be him and I think he kinda let it go a little in this debate.
But I face palm when he keeps making childish funny faces throughout in response to what other candidates are saying! He really needs to stop that! That's too pre-school! He should have got some Tech Expert to train him on how to internet speak, so that he can articulate more efficiently about his ideas for battling ISIS on the internet. The way his saying it makes him sound like a tech dinosaur. Also there was one stupid question about how building a wall and banning muslims means isolating USA from the entire world. He handled it very well. Muslims and illegal immigrants is not equivalent to the entire world. And I hope it stays that way!
Other than that, he stuck to his guns. Good for him!

Now, curious who will win the republican nominee!

I mean, I truly believe any other republicans would just make it a landslide win for Hillary. But I believe since Trump was democrat pretty much most of his life. When he goes against Hillary, his gonna start saying stuffs that appeal to democrats by then! Because now, his mission is to win Republican vote.

I wanna enjoy a fun 2016 election. Entertainment news for me! So I can't vote, but I can hope!

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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/17/2015 3:36:04 PM   
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New numbers overnight from a NBC-Wall Street Journal poll show how republican front runners would fare against Hillary Clinton.

The poll found that both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz would lose to Hillary Clinton if the election were held today; Trump by 10 points, and Cruz by three. Ben Carson and Marco Rubio could both beat her, but they're not topping the field.


http://www.nwahomepage.com/your-local-election-headquarters/new-poll-shows-how-republicans-fare-against-hillary-clinton

that is different from the last time I posted something like it...so things are constantly in flux.

recently guy benson pointed out that sometimes when trump criticizes his competitors, he does so from the left. that, and given some other things trump has in his history, help to point out that he's not really a conservative.

recently glenn beck suggested if trump is the nominee, voters will stay home in droves and it'll damage the republican party horrifically on multiple levels all around the country, not to mention we'd end up with a Hillary president. I lean towards agreeing with him.

your question about rand paul---while paul himself, that is, in his own life may be socially conservative (I don't know the answer to that), he is philosophically and politically a libertarian. among other things that means he wants to maximize government staying out of the lives of people.


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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/17/2015 7:46:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well Ted Cruz in a recent interview with fox said with certainty and conviction that Trump will not win nomination.

Does this means, even if he did win by votes, they have already chosen their candidate.

But it baffles in the past how did George Bush win over some Lib votes to win majority states. Why didn't libs back then support Al Gore more! Al Gore was the climate change pioneer after all.

That to me is still the strangest victory ever.

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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/17/2015 7:53:20 PM   
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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/17/2015 10:50:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just because Chris Christie got the name of the current King of Jordan wrong, doesn't mean his wrong about everything.


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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/18/2015 3:07:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Well Ted Cruz in a recent interview with fox said with certainty and conviction that Trump will not win nomination.

Does this means, even if he did win by votes, they have already chosen their candidate.

But it baffles in the past how did George Bush win over some Lib votes to win majority states. Why didn't libs back then support Al Gore more! Al Gore was the climate change pioneer after all.

That to me is still the strangest victory ever.


its doubtful any liberals at all voted for George w. bush greta. you might be referring to moderates and/or independents and some (but very few) democrats. the election was very close so one can assume al gore got plenty of support from liberals. although, that said, bill Clinton mucking up with monica Lewinsky didn't help gore much.

concerning your question about trump and the nomination---if such a thing is legally possible, I trust it would be catastrophic from a social/political perspective. while it might be safe to say that the rnc and the average republican out there doesn't want trump as the nominee, I cant see anything occurring where some official body steps in and denies him the nomination if it wins the election. I don't know enough about the law or the processes involved, but oh what a nightmare that would cause. the unrest would just as surely hand the presidency to Hillary.

that all said...I do hope we start to see a shift in the polling soon with a candidate lower than trump gaining ground, and with him losing some (lots actually).

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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/18/2015 11:37:34 AM   
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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/19/2015 12:50:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Just because Chris Christie got the name of the current King of Jordan wrong, doesn't mean his wrong about everything.





Really? Well maybe your parents weren't all that wrong about everything....

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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/19/2015 4:07:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		"“Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild."

Wonder not why I have not watched any of the debates. First of all they will say anything to get elected, truth or not. Plus the fact that they are al elitist and beholden to the real money people, like that one family that controls $230 trillion fucking dollars by the lowest estimate by Credit Suisse. The family that after decades of secrecy on these matters announced their support for Romney. They had never done such a thing and I think they did it to make him lose.

And f you get someone like me in office, who WILL fix this shit, they will blow my head off in a matter of days. Kennedy told the Jews he was going to cut off their aid if they went ahead with their nuclear ARMAMENTS program. He also signed an EO that would take some of the power away from the international (Jewish controlled) banks.

He got assassinated like quick. It was not a crazy who got this to happen. Of course they used a crazoid motherfucker to do it, and had backup shooters in case he missed, but the people who planned and orchestrated it were totally sane and had a vested interest in having the vice President in charge, who did what they told him to do. That was to continue aid to Israel and not implement EO 11110.

Greta, you seem to have a slightly warped view, but you got your head on fairly straight. We cannot shoot nor vote our way out of this, it is too late. But the system runs on money. Money is gotten by creating wealth and we ain''t doing that anymore. the system is going to collapse. Famine follows. Don't even need a revolution, as the police and soldiers no longer get paid nor fed, they will no longer be loyal to the despots.

That is why there is QE to prop up the stock market, that is why there is NSA, that is why they love to give out SS disability and food stamps, to buy loyalty. the people have proven themselves for sale. the rich vote for less taxes and the poor vote for more welfare. And it is all the same. you want food stamps with a republican President, they know how to tie it to a bill authorizing a military expenditure that will make their buddies at McDonnelll Douglas and others a bunch of money. We do not have line item veto, so they can ride anything on anything.

That means a President is not very useful. they have coercion both ways, but nobody coerces for the Peoiple who elected them once in. They do it for their corporate sponsors.

Nothing is going to change, except for the worse. I am surprised thaat someone so seemingly intelligent has any interest in this country.

T^T

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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/19/2015 7:59:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Marco Rubio - It's just me that I will never support anybody who can't handle personal finances properly to be head poncho of any country. So I just can't take him seriously. Because he actually has to find this money and make money grow to implement alot of things he wants to implement.

Have you paid any attention to posters who have pointed out multiple times that your horse Trump has bankrupted businesses? But you are willing to overlook that for him, and not for others. Makes total (non)sense.

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RE: Fifth Republican Debate - 12/19/2015 8:47:30 PM   
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