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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 12:55:45 PM   
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No, because those criminal republicans are out fixing elections, they dont got time to vote.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 1:16:10 PM   
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Interesting counter question;

Are most cowards Conservatives?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds

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Peering inside the brain with MRI scans, researchers at University College London found that self-described conservative students had a larger amygdala (link is external) than liberals. The amygdala is an almond-shaped structure deep in the brain that is active during states of fear and anxiety. Liberals had more gray matter at least in the anterior cingulate cortex, a region of the brain that helps people cope with complexity.


Corroboration:

http://www.browndailyherald.com/2013/02/08/study-links-genetics-of-fear-and-conservative-politics/

http://www.wired.com/2008/09/fearmongering-h/

http://mic.com/articles/26911/people-who-are-fearful-tend-to-be-politically-conservative-study-says#.LcHLUylEa

http://www.alternet.org/story/155210/why_is_the_conservative_brain_more_fearful_the_alternate_reality_right-wingers_inhabit_is_terrifying

http://www.salon.com/2010/12/29/conservative_brains/

http://www.rawstory.com/2010/12/conservatives-fear-center-brain/

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 1:37:32 PM   
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I never knew that was a question, I was sure that was an axiom if not an outright tautology.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 1:42:58 PM   
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note that the area of the brain is merely larger in conservative types...and not completely absent in liberals. its a part of everyone's brain. everyone but the physiologically deficient experiences fear.

as it is, I say so what? but show me data that says that size necessarily translates into experiencing more fear, and id still say "so what?"

alternatively, let me turn this (and your thinking) on its head. if there is a "so what" im likely to say being better equipped to recognize danger, and chose the "fight or flight" option (or some other alternative) is better than not, or being less equipped to do so.

also, going from the statement of conservatives having a larger or more active amygdala to "are most conservative cowards?" is pretty good evidence of the part of your brain (and comrade critter parts too) that uses logic as being deficient.

fear can be and is overcome by cognitive processes--show me data that says conservatives eschew activities or professions that require courage, especially compared to liberals, and then i'll think maybe you have something. otherwise, not and i'll just chalk it up to mnottertail being a sad and bitter unhappy fellow.

here’s a good tidbit to end the section on:

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it’s still unclear what a bigger amygdala (or a bigger anything in the brain) actually means in terms of behavior, not to mention how most brain regions have multiple functions. [in case you are wondering, that quote is from the author of the study]


http://www.zdnet.com/article/gray-matter-liberal-brains-vs-conservative-brains/

by the way---one of my old a&p texts tells me the amygdala is central to memory. if its smaller in liberals, gee, that might help explain why you all have such trouble learning from history.

gotta love this:

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The amygdala is also thought to participate in the height of a person's emotional intelligence. It is particularly hypothesized that larger amygdalae allow for greater emotional intelligence, enabling greater societal integration and cooperation with others.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala

in the meantime comrades, itd be better if you just owned up to being kissing cousins to the criminals...

and next time---it also might be better if you got someone to interpret results of the study who doesn't have a vested interest in making conservatives look bad? we are supposed to believe its the truth because you found 6 liberals with the some opinion? maybe we'll all believe conservatives are greedy, racist, sexist, homophobes too since the huffington post, media matters, move on and mother jones say so? right...

to that very point, try reading the actual article: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(11)00289-2.pdf...as opposed to a liberal blogger's spin on it.


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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 1:54:02 PM   
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Do you really want felons to have a say in selecting Judges?

If they are citizens why are you against them being able to vote?

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 5:22:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Staleek

Interesting counter question;

Are most cowards Conservatives?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds

quote:

Peering inside the brain with MRI scans, researchers at University College London found that self-described conservative students had a larger amygdala (link is external) than liberals. The amygdala is an almond-shaped structure deep in the brain that is active during states of fear and anxiety. Liberals had more gray matter at least in the anterior cingulate cortex, a region of the brain that helps people cope with complexity.


Corroboration:

http://www.browndailyherald.com/2013/02/08/study-links-genetics-of-fear-and-conservative-politics/

http://www.wired.com/2008/09/fearmongering-h/

http://mic.com/articles/26911/people-who-are-fearful-tend-to-be-politically-conservative-study-says#.LcHLUylEa

http://www.alternet.org/story/155210/why_is_the_conservative_brain_more_fearful_the_alternate_reality_right-wingers_inhabit_is_terrifying

http://www.salon.com/2010/12/29/conservative_brains/

http://www.rawstory.com/2010/12/conservatives-fear-center-brain/

Rather, it could be not cowardice really but that overriding fear that they missed a few tax deductions. [It] will often even changes the look on their faces. Something akin to pain.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 5:56:53 PM   
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just goin on the title of the thread.
Yes is the obvious answer.



Well, at last we can agree on something...had to happen, sooner or later.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 5:59:30 PM   
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Yeah i love it when my sarcasm is so strong, stupid people buy it.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 6:09:54 PM   
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Love your signature line. Jeff Cooper was a fine gentleman of the old school.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 6:18:50 PM   
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Yeah i love it when my sarcasm is so strong, stupid people buy it.


And I love it when my sarcasm, about other (equally stupid) people's sarcasm, is so strong they buy into it, as well.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/18/2015 6:28:08 PM   
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Lmao not even a good try, lmao sarcasm is something you shoulnt play with, if unnarmed.
I have visuals of monty python sketches now.
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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/19/2015 8:26:03 AM   
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by the way---one of my old a&p texts tells me the amygdala is central to memory. if its smaller in liberals, gee, that might help explain why you all have such trouble learning from history.


The amygdala is the core fear system in the brain. the nutsucker textbook you are looking at must be from Texas.

If it does have any issue with memory, it would explain why nutsuckers never learn history, or never know it, and try to rewrite it by repetitive lie.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/19/2015 10:57:32 AM   
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"Felons Voting Illegally May Have Put Franken Over the Top in Minnesota, Study Finds"

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The six-month election recount that turned former "Saturday Night Live" comedian Al Franken into a U.S. senator may have been decided by convicted felons who voted illegally in Minnesota's Twin Cities.

That's the finding of an 18-month study conducted by Minnesota Majority, a conservative watchdog group, which found that at least 341 convicted felons in largely Democratic Minneapolis-St. Paul voted illegally in the 2008 Senate race between Franken, a Democrat, and his Republican opponent, then-incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman.

The final recount vote in the race, determined six months after Election Day, showed Franken beat Coleman by 312 votes -- fewer votes than the number of felons whose illegal ballots were counted, according to Minnesota Majority's newly released study, which matched publicly available conviction lists with voting records.

Furthermore, the report charges that efforts to get state and federal authorities to act on its findings have been "stonewalled."

"We aren't trying to change the result of the last election. That legally can't be done," said Dan McGrath, Minnesota Majority's executive director. "We are just trying to make sure the integrity of the next election isn't compromised."

He said his group was largely ignored when it turned over a list of hundreds of names to prosecutors in two of the state's largest counties, Ramsey and Hennepin, where fraud seemed to be the greatest.

"What we did this time is irrefutable," McGrath said. "We took the voting lists and matched them with conviction lists and then went back to the records and found the roster lists, where voters sign in before walking to the voting booth, and matched them by hand.

"The only way we can be wrong is if someone with the same first, middle and last names, same year of birth as the felon, and living in the same community, has voted. And that isn't very likely."

The report said that in Hennepin County, which in includes Minneapolis, 899 suspected felons had been matched on the county's voting records, and the review showed 289 voters were conclusively matched to felon records. The report says only three people in the county have been charged with voter fraud so far.

But the report got a far different review in Ramsey County, which contains St. Paul. Phil Carruthers of the Ramsey County attorney's office said his agency had taken the charges "very seriously" and found that the Minnesota Majority "had done a good job in their review."

The report says that in Ramsey, 460 names on voting records were matched with felon lists, and a further review found 52 were conclusive matches.

Carruthers said Ramsey County is still investigating all the names and has asked that more investigators be hired to complete the process. "So far we have charged 28 people with felonies, have 17 more under review and have 182 cases still open," he said. "And there is a good chance we may match or even exceed their numbers."

McGrath says the report shows that more still has to be done.

"Prosecutors have to act more swiftly in prosecuting cases from the 2008 election to deter fraud in the future," he said, "and the state has to make sure that existing system, that flags convicted felons so voting officials can challenge them at the ballot, is effective. In 90 percent of the cases we looked at, the felons weren't flagged."

"If the state had done that," he said, "things might be very different today."



nah, there's no "voter fraud"...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/12/felons-voting-illegally-franken-minnesota-study-finds.html


You really should try to keep your Information Updated. It does show many things that FOX 'news' either got wrong in its reporting, or simply lied whole sale; yet again, showing conservative media is about as honest as a Republican candidate running for public office...


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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/19/2015 3:44:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Lmao not even a good try, lmao sarcasm is something you shoulnt play with, if unnarmed.
I have visuals of monty python sketches now.
Disarmed....


Ehhhh, it's just a flesh wound....


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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/20/2015 12:21:02 AM   
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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/20/2015 3:47:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Lmao not even a good try, lmao sarcasm is something you shoulnt play with, if unnarmed.
I have visuals of monty python sketches now.
Disarmed....

Ehhhh, it's just a flesh wound....

Come back here you coward I will bite you in the knee.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/20/2015 7:09:53 PM   
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Convicted felons can't vote. Their right to vote is taken from them. So it doesn't matter if they're dem or repub


In the U.S., the constitution implicitly permits the States to adopt rules about disenfranchisement "for participation in rebellion, or other crime", by the fourteenth amendment, section 2. It is up to the states to decide which crimes could be ground for disenfranchisement, and they are not formally bound to restrict this to felonies; however, in most cases, they do.

Your local venue may vary.
Some states automatically restore voting rights when sentence is served.
Some states require a petition to the Governor to restore voting rights.
And a couple of states have voting precincts inside their prisons.

My home state requires a petition to the court to "restore full citizenship rights".
"Having served his debt to society and demonstrated the ability to be an upstanding, contributing, member of society.. etc"
The restoration of full citizenship rights restores the right to vote, along with the ability to engage in public contracts, and the right to own a firearm. (Engage in public contracts: actually do business with the government. One thing convicted felons can't do.)

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/20/2015 7:14:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MercTech


quote:

ORIGINAL: ChrchofDrk

Convicted felons can't vote. Their right to vote is taken from them. So it doesn't matter if they're dem or repub


In the U.S., the constitution implicitly permits the States to adopt rules about disenfranchisement "for participation in rebellion, or other crime", by the fourteenth amendment, section 2. It is up to the states to decide which crimes could be ground for disenfranchisement, and they are not formally bound to restrict this to felonies; however, in most cases, they do.

Your local venue may vary.
Some states automatically restore voting rights when sentence is served.
Some states require a petition to the Governor to restore voting rights.
And a couple of states have voting precincts inside their prisons.

My home state requires a petition to the court to "restore full citizenship rights".
"Having served his debt to society and demonstrated the ability to be an upstanding, contributing, member of society.. etc"
The restoration of full citizenship rights restores the right to vote, along with the ability to engage in public contracts, and the right to own a firearm. (Engage in public contracts: actually do business with the government. One thing convicted felons can't do.)

In my state it requiers a second restoration to regain the ability to own a firearem. A simple restoration of rights is a restoration of all rights not having to do with weapons. That requires a seperate restoration signed by the governor.

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/20/2015 7:20:46 PM   
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Do you really want felons to have a say in selecting Judges?

If they are citizens why are you against them being able to vote?

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RE: Are most criminals democrats? - 12/20/2015 7:30:58 PM   
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In my state it requires a second restoration to regain the ability to own a firearm. A simple restoration of rights is a restoration of all rights not having to do with weapons. That requires a seperate restoration signed by the governor.

I actually kinda paraphrased. You petition the courts who review and validate the petition then it is signed off by the governor. You have to specify in the petition which rights you are asking to have restored. (Mississippi - late 1970s - time may have changed things)

I found it interesting. An old high school friend asked me to do a deposition. The high school buddy had a father that just inherited the family business, a paving company. Back when his dad was a YDFC 19 year old; he was part of a bar brawl and everyone involved ended up with a conviction on "felony assault & battery". He had served 90 days in county and a year probation and thought that was the end of it. It was not an issue and he stayed out of trouble. But the issue became huge when a criminal records check was done on him as the new owner of a company contracting state and county paving services.

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