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AAkasha -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/21/2015 8:06:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaveLuke

im confused maybe this my autism but im struggling to work out who is attacking me and who is defending me here.



There are dominant women who are single and want sexual, sensual, romantic and long term relationships with men who are various levels of kinks. Yes, they do exist.

The thing that submissives need to realize is that femdoms seeking this kind of ongoing, real femdom/FLR/kinky relationship for the long haul are also, in many cases, very capable of pursuing vanilla men who are often wildly interested in their adventuresome nature and taboo edge. And many vanilla men, at the same time, possess a natural desire to please. Just as there are lots of totally vanilla couples (ZERO KINK at all in bedroom) where the woman is fully in charge and the man treats her like a princess and loves it - he is the guy that gets called "pussy whipped" by his macho peers and gets teased about her carrying his balls in her purse. He doesn't care, it's what he likes.

When I was single, most of my long, serious relationships were actually with vanilla guys I 'coerced' into exploring my kinks. I found it easier to locate and connect with vanilla guys, and I developed a pretty good sixth sense for finding men that enjoyed a woman who would "take charge." While experimenting, I found that wildly kinky and self-aware "submissives" often came with a TON of expectations for how I should behave, they watched way too much porn, had very lackluster drive (part of their submissive nature that bled into their personality) and worst of all they had no idea how to interact with a woman.

They had no idea how to court a woman, romance a woman, be polite and charming without being meek and boring. Most of their ideas of how real world relationships work came from fantasy or porn, and at the same time, they did not date, ever. So they had no real life experience as they were waiting for the "femdom of their dreams" -- and as they got older, their lack of experience became more glaring.

My advice is that you date, socialize, learn to be a pleasant man that women like -- you are going to have to satisfy a woman's expectations as a partner (romantically) and as relationship material. This means a whole lot of chemistry. AND -- you have to be into her as well! I see WAY too many submissive men or kinky guys "settle" for a woman that is clearly not right for him, because "It's better than being alone" or "OMG there are a million guys for every femdom, even though she's totally wrong for me and treats me like garbage, I am 100% instantly replaceable and she is not!"

A femdom has to RESPECT her submissive partner. That requires attraction, connection, chemistry, and he has to be pretty savvy at nuances in relationships to adapt to and foster the kinky aspects of the relationship without being needy, whiny or controlling. That means no pouting, no passive aggressive behaviors, etc.

It's a tall order. But if you focus on a ton of self improvement and awareness and also become comfortable with women, it will help your chances immensely. You may also realize that you connect well with a woman who's more borderline kinky, and not what you imagine it to be like -- which, for all we know, could be a false fantasy.

Akasha



NookieNotes -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/22/2015 5:16:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
You may also realize that you connect well with a woman who's more borderline kinky, and not what you imagine it to be like -- which, for all we know, could be a false fantasy.


And often is.



PeonForHer -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/22/2015 5:46:24 AM)


I asked the same sort of questions and even in the same tones when I first came here, David. The answers are 'Yes, they do indeed exist' and 'They're people, so they'll be used to forging relationships with like-minded sub males'. You can find one.



DaveLuke -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/23/2015 5:06:09 PM)

i guess i am having real trouble with this. despite googling everywhere I cannot find a single article that says yes women can be faithful to a submissive guy. everywhere it is stated the women can enjoy the service of the submissive guy but will want to sleep with a dominant man.

sometimes i wonder if I am looking for the white unicorn when I seek a women who will dominate me but be faithful.

I am beginning to concur with all this material out there and reading through it, that maybe the fetish scene isnt where I will find the girl I am looking for.

But I don't think i should leave it either.

you know over the years I have began to identify with and understand the gay guy, not because I am one ( I am definitely 100% heterosexual) but because a guy been submissive in society is very taboo. it is also one thing i cannot discuss with anyone, its off limits and I dont know where to get advice from because all advice tells me to be the typical guy most women want and be alpha etc.

My older brother constantly tells me to stop been " a bitch" when he has not figured out yet that actually i like been a girls bitch.

but everywhere over the scene dominant females want to sleep with guys outside of there submissive or submissives. it seems that online is constantly telling me also that females will cheat on submissive guys. as if it is literally impossible to find a female that can like a submissive guy and be faithful to them.

I guess I am also looking for a relationship, and a girl to spend my life with. but I cannot deny my sexuality either.

I have three possibilities as I see it.

1. be the alpha male act out of my character get married and have children etc. this kind of makes me feel like the gay guy in the sense that I am living a lie and not living to my true self and what I really want.
2. find a dominant women and reluctantly go along with been cuckholded
3.go through a series of short term relationships where I have fun and good times eventually she cheats on me and i break it off.
4. find the white whale a female that will dominate me but appreciate and love me and stay faithful to me.

I think realistically options 1 and 2 seem the most realistic and if it wasn't for my experience with an abusive ex, I would probably go that way. but what that experience taught me was something contrary to all the advice.

a lot of people tell me there is someone out there for everyone, i know this to be factually wrong, the truth is most people will find someone, but some people truly die alone. It was because no one could be honest with me or themselves in this regard that I did not take them seriously and remained in an abusive relationship because i really did fear dying alone and no one would take that fear seriously and always dismissed it.

after a year of therapy i learned that been alone even for a whole life is not the worst possible option that I would rather be alone then be unhappy in a miserable relationship.

hence why i can rule out option 1 and 2.

So i guess my plan is to go looking for option 4 whilst been prepared to face the reality it may just always be option 3 and single in between. at least I can have fun along the way though.

I hope i do find option 4 some day.

the truth is I dont have a lot of experience and I need to experience more things to fully know what i do and dont like.

I know i do like pleasing a girl and that does mean things like doing her dishes or chores etc as well as the kink stuff. However is it the same if I am living with them I just come home from work and there is 3 hours of chores mounted up?
I think a 24/7 slave master relationship is unrealistic, i like to be in service to a girl and lifestyle etc, but I do need to be my own person and do my own things as well. and whilst I endeavour to be submissive to a girl to serve them and try to be obedient the reality is sometimes I will probably have to say no, and will have my limits.

this idea of just been a total slave is certainly sexy as a fantasy but not realistic as a full time life style. However there has to be a middle ground between been 100% vanilla and been 100% total slave.

I guess what I need from the scene is an open place where I can talk about things I cant with family and friends be open get advice and make friends who i can discuss my issues with. i think thats why I will go to munches but I dont think its the place to find what I am looking for etc.



MisterP61 -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/23/2015 5:24:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaveLuke

the truth is I dont have a lot of experience and I need to experience more things to fully know what i do and dont like.


There is a "rub" here. In order to do this you actually have to get out and meet people (munches, dungeons, play parties, ETC.). You may have to find a play partner (mind you this is not the long term you seek) and try out what you are interested in. Go slow, there is no rush but go. Really the best way to find what you are looking for.


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ORIGINAL: DaveLuke
I guess what I need from the scene is an open place where I can talk about things I cant with family and friends be open get advice and make friends who i can discuss my issues with. i think thats why I will go to munches but I dont think its the place to find what I am looking for etc.

Believe it or not, you can get this here. Not everything you read will jibe with you. Weed out what you want and leave the rest. Not all advice is "cookie cutter". Hell you might not even like what I am saying, which is 100% OK. Truthfully from what I have seen you post so far, you seem pretty level headed, and that is a huge plus around here [:D]



dreamlady -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/23/2015 5:45:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaveLuke
I cannot find a single article that says yes women can be faithful to a submissive guy.

sometimes i wonder if I am looking for the white unicorn when I seek a women who will dominate me but be faithful.

but everywhere over the scene dominant females want to sleep with guys outside of there submissive or submissives. it seems that online is constantly telling me also that females will cheat on submissive guys. as if it is literally impossible to find a female that can like a submissive guy and be faithful to them.

I guess I am also looking for a relationship, and a girl to spend my life with. but I cannot deny my sexuality either.


That's your problem, then. You have been reading up and/or viewing FemDom porn and taking this misinformation authoritatively instead of going out there yourself to find what you're looking for. You've been TOLD already that we exist.
I don't make a habit of reading female profiles, but I doubt that Cuckolding is listed in every one belonging to a Dominant woman. If it is listed, she may also be confusing cuckolding with polysexuality.

Some of us have been trying to tell you that we aren't into cuckolding, and if you take Dommes-for-hire out of the equation, then remove bisexuality (because this can often indicate an openness to having multiple sex partners), you are left with HETEROSEXUAL LIFESTYLE DOMMES who tend to seek a MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP COMMITMENT.

Let me repeat myself: There are just as many, if not more, HETEROSEXUAL LIFESTYLE DOMMES seeking a traditional MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP COMMITMENT, than there are poly lifestyle Dommes. Go check out aboutflr.com, which has a dating service which is free for women but has a nominal fee for men to join.

Btw, having multiple subs does not make for a poly Domme either -- there are non-sexual service subs and non-sexual play partner sub-bottoms.

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ORIGINAL: DaveLuke
everywhere it is stated the women can enjoy the service of the submissive guy but will want to sleep with a dominant man.

The misinformation you are being fed is astounding. The only requirement that Cuckoldresses customarily observe is for HER BULL TO BE MORE DOMINANT THAN HER CUCKOLDED PARTNER. Her bull doesn't have to be a maleDom or male switch, he could be poly vanilla, he could be her bull slave; neither does her cuckolded primary partner have to be a sub.

Please clean the wax out of your ears for your own good, because no woman wants a whiny pessimistic, fatalistic-sounding bitch (not saying that's what you are, but you have tied your erroneous and prejudicial thinking around in knots). Seriously, you are just being hardheaded and unteachable. Nobody wants an unteachable sub!

DreamLady



LadyPact -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/23/2015 6:16:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DaveLuke
i guess i am having real trouble with this. despite googling everywhere I cannot find a single article that says yes women can be faithful to a submissive guy. everywhere it is stated the women can enjoy the service of the submissive guy but will want to sleep with a dominant man.

I don't know what you are reading but whatever it is you are finding is giving you a very limited view. It took me less than five minutes using the search on the other site to find threads about those in monogamous female led relationships. Whoever is writing "articles" [8|] that all female Dominants want to sleep with Dominant men is assuming way too much and doesn't know enough Dominant women.

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sometimes i wonder if I am looking for the white unicorn when I seek a women who will dominate me but be faithful.

I am beginning to concur with all this material out there and reading through it, that maybe the fetish scene isnt where I will find the girl I am looking for.

This is silly. You've already said you haven't even tried going anywhere to meet Dominant women, so you really don't have much of a frame of reference.

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But I don't think i should leave it either.

Maybe I'm misjudging you. Exactly what have you done about meeting real people? How many events, munches, clubs, or gatherings have you attended that you didn't see *any* monogamous Dominant women?

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you know over the years I have began to identify with and understand the gay guy, not because I am one ( I am definitely 100% heterosexual) but because a guy been submissive in society is very taboo. it is also one thing i cannot discuss with anyone, its off limits and I dont know where to get advice from because all advice tells me to be the typical guy most women want and be alpha etc.

Personal pet peeve of mine. You don't know what it's like to be gay. Being a submissive male doesn't come near what that experience is for members of the LGBT community to have to deal with. Yes, being outed as kinky can royally suck. Still doesn't quite stack up with having to be afraid of what will happen to you just for kissing your partner in public.

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My older brother constantly tells me to stop been " a bitch" when he has not figured out yet that actually i like been a girls bitch.

but everywhere over the scene dominant females want to sleep with guys outside of there submissive or submissives. it seems that online is constantly telling me also that females will cheat on submissive guys. as if it is literally impossible to find a female that can like a submissive guy and be faithful to them.

Get better resources. You're not listening to people right here on this thread who have said it's not the case, so it's your choice to believe what you want to.

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I guess I am also looking for a relationship, and a girl to spend my life with. but I cannot deny my sexuality either.

I don't see anyone here saying this but you.

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the truth is I dont have a lot of experience and I need to experience more things to fully know what i do and dont like.

Yes. That's apparent.

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I guess what I need from the scene is an open place where I can talk about things I cant with family and friends be open get advice and make friends who i can discuss my issues with. i think thats why I will go to munches but I dont think its the place to find what I am looking for etc.

You've made this determination without even attending one. Kind of a defeatist attitude, isn't it?

Hang out here and learn some things. However, it's not the only avenue to become educated. Do you know they have things out there like submissive support groups, beginner classes, and low pressure events where people just go and hang out?

You're kind of basing your opinion on stuff you are reading on the internet, rather than meeting real people. Maybe, instead of jumping to conclusions, it might be worth gathering a little more information that doesn't come from a screen.



DaveLuke -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/24/2015 12:17:45 PM)

few things. yes the rebuttals stand I should put myself out there.

I do have, some social anxiety which is why i hide away from getting out there, but i can't hide forever.

apologies if i seem not to listen, i usually need to hear stuff from more then one person. its just my mentality I will be putting myself out there and attending munches.

I also plan to be attending clubs where many members of the scene go, to try and meet people.

its not the dominants that scare me from putting myself out there. I am not scared of dominants, i am scared of people I need to face that.

I guess you are right I should not be basing my research on borderline porn sites or articles online. One is not based on reality and often has unrealistic fantasies not representing true people, and the other is written for shock value to get attention and may not be representative of the scene.

Sorry if I annoyed people, I am scared enough of people as it is so going looking for this makes me anxious but I know what I want, and needed to ask questions to quell my anxieties.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/24/2015 12:23:59 PM)

Your profile says you are in the UK, if you want to, PM me your location (roughly, county will be enough) if it's anywhere near me, we can meet up and have a chat, I am not looking and I'm in a relationship, but if it will relax you a bit, I'm willing to go to munches with you (provided we are roughly in the same area), because usually with a woman along it's a lot easier to meet people.

Would that help?



WickedsDesire -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/24/2015 12:42:14 PM)

Bestest post I have seen this eve LadyConstanze

and that's basically how I went to my first club..a couple came got me dragged me, promised me drambuie and corset boots - the perfect bounty..Now, I am INTJ and we are introverted basket cases and we guffaw, with much merriment, at generic statements like social anxiety.

Now..occasionally, when it is not clearly apparent-transparent, I give someone the benefit of the doubt and offer them my reality in exchange for theirs, be it singles couples....but my time is wasted at a ratio of about 99:1. And that is a lot of my time

You have a fine offer I will be greatly saddened if you fuk with it in any way.



ToyHartaDIdiots -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/24/2015 9:34:16 PM)

Good morning,

Your post title...Dominant Female exists?............. Answer YES

Before participating on your post, I've visited your profile and.. I Have not read anything that would tell/talk Me that you are submissive, nor your alikes nor your previous experience in living your submission. That didn't Helped Me to understand you.

At your post, you mention several things that could be answered but I Am not quite sure you are really interested in getting them so I Will just focus on My doubt after reading your post.

Im a little confussed, regarding the couckholding issue because it seems to Me you are mixing different things:
1.- "....I want to have a sexual relationship with my dominant partner...."
2.- "....I want just to be one on one not me or my more likely my dominant having multiple partners..." IF your Owner Has 3 submissives on property and Do NOT fuck with them.. that also would count on your problem of "multiple partners"?

Having in mind that I always talk on My Humble and Personal opinion/experience and this shall not be taken as intention to be anyonelse's guide....

WHY should I, as Owner, "Have" to:
... fuck with My property?
... give any explanaition on what I Do in My Personal life (including IF I fuck or not ,nor with who or whoms), to My property?

Besides I guess you haven't really think about what you said "1. anything that could ruin life or do long term/ permanent damage eg psychical injury illegal activity or behaviors that could put me in destitution, or criminal activity. "..

There are a lot of practices/techniques as ones played on Medical alikes (sounding, clamps, etc) Spanking (which might causes bruises & skin damages for some days) and OTHERS that all could be sensitive to be considered by law criminal/illegal activities.. THIS creates a very small tinny circle of practices that could be Done with you, as a property.









DarkSteven -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/26/2015 12:48:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaveLuke

i guess i am having real trouble with this. despite googling everywhere I cannot find a single article that says yes women can be faithful to a submissive guy. everywhere it is stated the women can enjoy the service of the submissive guy but will want to sleep with a dominant man.


The Internet is not the most reliable source of info, but this is ridiculous. The Dommes I know - some are poly, some are mono. And while I DO know some Doms that are paired with Dom men (e.g., LadyPact), they are the exception rather than the rule.
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sometimes i wonder if I am looking for the white unicorn when I seek a women who will dominate me but be faithful.

I am beginning to concur with all this material out there and reading through it, that maybe the fetish scene isnt where I will find the girl I am looking for.

But I don't think i should leave it either.


You stand a much better chance of finding a Domme in the kinkworld than outside of it. Especially since I consider your fundamental assumption at 99% of Dommes are poly, to be erroneous.
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you know over the years I have began to identify with and understand the gay guy, not because I am one ( I am definitely 100% heterosexual) but because a guy been submissive in society is very taboo. it is also one thing i cannot discuss with anyone, its off limits and I dont know where to get advice from because all advice tells me to be the typical guy most women want and be alpha etc.

My older brother constantly tells me to stop been " a bitch" when he has not figured out yet that actually i like been a girls bitch.


You definitely have a point. The kind of man admired by society has a high-powered job, money, and sophistication. However, a lot of submissives are men and women that hold the Dominant role out in society and become subs at home. Could you do that?
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but everywhere over the scene dominant females want to sleep with guys outside of there submissive or submissives. it seems that online is constantly telling me also that females will cheat on submissive guys. as if it is literally impossible to find a female that can like a submissive guy and be faithful to them.


Again, I don't know what your sources are, but I haven't seen this.

Please note that you are confusing cheating with poly. Cheating is when a person has sex outside of a relationship WITHOUT their primary's knowledge/consent, and poly is the same thing but WITH their primary's knowledge/consent. The difference is huge. Please don't confuse the two.
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I guess I am also looking for a relationship, and a girl to spend my life with. but I cannot deny my sexuality either.

I have three possibilities as I see it.

1. be the alpha male act out of my character get married and have children etc. this kind of makes me feel like the gay guy in the sense that I am living a lie and not living to my true self and what I really want.
2. find a dominant women and reluctantly go along with been cuckholded
3.go through a series of short term relationships where I have fun and good times eventually she cheats on me and i break it off.
4. find the white whale a female that will dominate me but appreciate and love me and stay faithful to me.

I think realistically options 1 and 2 seem the most realistic and if it wasn't for my experience with an abusive ex, I would probably go that way. but what that experience taught me was something contrary to all the advice.


Option 1 is entirely feasible. Would you be capable of submitting to a woman at home, but taking charge at work?

Option 2 makes me think that you may have some confusion. Cuckolding is a very specific kink, in which the cuckolded person sees their partner with someone else, and has their nose rubbed in it, frequently doing some cleanup duty. Many more men have fantasies about being cucked than women do regarding doing it to their partner. Simply having an outside partner is NOT the same as cuckolding.

Option 3 shows that you have some odd connection in your mind between women being Dommes and them cheating. Why is that? Also, note that "cheating" involves you being unaware or otherwise not agreeing to an outside relationship. I suspect that if a Domme wanted an outside relationship, she'd discuss it with you. That would not be cheating.

Option 4 - Fella, do NOT call a woman a white whale. Just... don't.

When you say " a female that will dominate me but appreciate and love me", you've described a healthy FLR relationship. You simply want a Domme that is mono, that's all.
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a lot of people tell me there is someone out there for everyone, i know this to be factually wrong, the truth is most people will find someone, but some people truly die alone. It was because no one could be honest with me or themselves in this regard that I did not take them seriously and remained in an abusive relationship because i really did fear dying alone and no one would take that fear seriously and always dismissed it.

after a year of therapy i learned that been alone even for a whole life is not the worst possible option that I would rather be alone then be unhappy in a miserable relationship.

hence why i can rule out option 1 and 2.

So i guess my plan is to go looking for option 4 whilst been prepared to face the reality it may just always be option 3 and single in between. at least I can have fun along the way though.

I hope i do find option 4 some day.

With all due respect, there are Dommes that are single and simply found the right sub man. You now need to focus on becoming that man, and spend less time lamenting and spinning your wheels. I'll give you a hint - women love a man who likes conversation and is good at it.

the truth is I dont have a lot of experience and I need to experience more things to fully know what i do and dont like.

I know i do like pleasing a girl and that does mean things like doing her dishes or chores etc as well as the kink stuff. However is it the same if I am living with them I just come home from work and there is 3 hours of chores mounted up?
I think a 24/7 slave master relationship is unrealistic, i like to be in service to a girl and lifestyle etc, but I do need to be my own person and do my own things as well. and whilst I endeavour to be submissive to a girl to serve them and try to be obedient the reality is sometimes I will probably have to say no, and will have my limits.

this idea of just been a total slave is certainly sexy as a fantasy but not realistic as a full time life style. However there has to be a middle ground between been 100% vanilla and been 100% total slave.

I guess what I need from the scene is an open place where I can talk about things I cant with family and friends be open get advice and make friends who i can discuss my issues with. i think thats why I will go to munches but I dont think its the place to find what I am looking for etc.




Lucylastic -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/26/2015 8:41:29 AM)

fr..


yes dominant women do exist. yes they exist without a need for cuckolding.
yes they exist even mono ones, yes they exist without the need for chastityand crossdressing,yes they exist without the need of a man, yes they exist in millions of ways.
you just need to be smart and able to find the ones that are compatible with you.



DaveLuke -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/28/2015 7:17:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ToyHartaDIdiots

Good morning,

Your post title...Dominant Female exists?............. Answer YES

Before participating on your post, I've visited your profile and.. I Have not read anything that would tell/talk Me that you are submissive, nor your alikes nor your previous experience in living your submission. That didn't Helped Me to understand you.

At your post, you mention several things that could be answered but I Am not quite sure you are really interested in getting them so I Will just focus on My doubt after reading your post.

Im a little confussed, regarding the couckholding issue because it seems to Me you are mixing different things:
1.- "....I want to have a sexual relationship with my dominant partner...."
2.- "....I want just to be one on one not me or my more likely my dominant having multiple partners..." IF your Owner Has 3 submissives on property and Do NOT fuck with them.. that also would count on your problem of "multiple partners"?

Having in mind that I always talk on My Humble and Personal opinion/experience and this shall not be taken as intention to be anyonelse's guide....

WHY should I, as Owner, "Have" to:
... fuck with My property?
... give any explanaition on what I Do in My Personal life (including IF I fuck or not ,nor with who or whoms), to My property?

Besides I guess you haven't really think about what you said "1. anything that could ruin life or do long term/ permanent damage eg psychical injury illegal activity or behaviors that could put me in destitution, or criminal activity. "..

There are a lot of practices/techniques as ones played on Medical alikes (sounding, clamps, etc) Spanking (which might causes bruises & skin damages for some days) and OTHERS that all could be sensitive to be considered by law criminal/illegal activities.. THIS creates a very small tinny circle of practices that could be Done with you, as a property.









hi im finally back so to clarify then, by long term damage i meant stuff that could affect me permanently in a negative way if i had a bruise for a month i would not consider that long term damage. I meant stuff that could ruin my personal appearance permanently damage my penis or affect in a negative way, an injury or risk of an injury that could permantly affect/limit my ability to move or do cognitive damage.

brusing scratching and marks in discrete places do not count.

i dont know where your from but I am in the UK as far as I am aware BDSM and sub dom stuff is not illegal or criminal in the uk. i mean the usual stuff theirs always some people that take it to the extreme. when i was at lockin event in a local kink shop some some of the kinksters mentioned the weirdest fetishes they had seen there was talk of people using power tools on each other and also collecting stds as fetishes. needless to say both of these fit into the category of not wanting to do something that perm ruins my life.

however when I refer to criminal or illegal stuff i am referring to things which would impact third parties. if its just between me and a domme and its not doing any perm damage or negative effect its not an issue. I heard of one case in america where one women tried to be a dominatrix to get a load of submissives to murder her ex husband. they were going to go through with it but the police found out somehow and it never happened but thats more what i was getting at.

I am not just looking for a dominant i am looking for a relationship with a girl,

a girl could just as easily say in a strictly vanilla relationship why should i have to fuck you etc, and the answer is simple

no you should never have to fuck me no one should ever have to fuck anyone, if someone is doing something sexual that they dont want to do but are been obligated or coerced in some way that is really not cool.

in fact one word comes to mind to describe that and we all know what that is.

no I wouldnt assume that because a girl was my girlfriend she had to fuck me, I would ask if she never wants to fuck me why is she been my girlfriend, those are two different positions.

if i find a dominant i want them to be my girlfriend as well as my dominant. sex isnt an exchange for my submission my submission is a gift of service end of. but I would hope my girlfriend if i had one would want to have sex with me.

if a girl is my dominant GF then yes id expect them to be commited to me.

I am sure there are some guys that like the idea of been nothing but disposable objects to be used abused and discarded at any dommes whims.

that is not me.

clearly me and you would not be suited to each other, we clearly want different things.

I would hope there are dominants out there that do not agree with your philosophy if not i have a problem.



DaveLuke -> RE: Do dominant females actually exist? (12/28/2015 7:23:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Your profile says you are in the UK, if you want to, PM me your location (roughly, county will be enough) if it's anywhere near me, we can meet up and have a chat, I am not looking and I'm in a relationship, but if it will relax you a bit, I'm willing to go to munches with you (provided we are roughly in the same area), because usually with a woman along it's a lot easier to meet people.

Would that help?



thanks you really are a decent person, i will message you later, when i am not to clogged up i am bit tired now. sorry for the delay in responding i just wasnt so active on these forums over the last few days.

also thanks to the people that did message me it is nice to see that there are so many decent people in this community.



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