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Lucylastic -> Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/21/2015 10:54:01 PM)

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/12/20/tip-leads-bomb-squad-to-man-suspected-of-making-bombs-in-richmond-home-to-harm-muslims/


RICHMOND (CBS SF) — A neighborhood in Richmond had to be evacuated Sunday when police say a man was making explosives in his home with the intent of harming the Muslim community.

Police received a tip from a caller on December 17th who said a man was making the devices and threatening to harm Muslims.

Police removed a device from the home on the 5100 block of Mcbryde Avenue, and the Walnut Creek bomb squad detonated a device before neighbors were allowed to return to their homes.

The suspect was identified by police as 55-year-old William Celli. He was arrested, and booked into the Contra Costa County jail Sunday afternoon.

Celli's arrest comes at a time of heightened concern in the U.S. about both homegrown and foreign terrorism. But most of the scrutiny and fear has been directed toward Muslim communities around the country -- even though white supremacists and right-wing extremists are routinely responsible for plenty of violence here.
Celli doesn't fit the profile of the "terrorist" who is likely to be invoked on cable news or on a GOP debate stage. In fact, judging by Celli's Facebook page, he seems to be the exact inverse: a disgruntled white man who has bought into the xenophobic rhetoric of people like GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump.
Earlier this month, Trump called for a temporary ban on all Muslim immigrants into the U.S., a proposal that invited widespread derision from people of all political stripes.
Nobody knows what Celli thinks of that particular talking point, but on his Facebook page, he does express admiration for the real estate mogul. In an October post, Celli called Trump a "great point man," saying that he'd "follow this MAN to the end of the world."

In another post, he refers to an "invasion" of "illegals."
"I have lost 30% of my business to to Hispanics coming to my country under false pretenses ... and freeload in construction or in the blue collar sector they need to go back home lets not talk about the welfare they suck dry," Celli wrote in June 2014, a year before Trump announced his bid for the presidency.
Trump obviously didn't create these sorts of opinions, but he has succeeded in propelling them into the mainstream. His campaign has won the support of white supremacist groups and other racist organizations whose views are typically relegated to the political fringe. And it can't be denied that Trump's campaign events have been marred by incidents of violence -- and that the candidate himself doesn't always seem horrified by it.
It's not simply a matter of refusing to be "politically correct." When a prominent national figure repeatedly demonizes entire groups of people, it affirms viewpoints and attitudes that can be dangerous if they take root inside the wrong mind. Just look at the 254 people who were killed by right-wing extremists in the decade after Sept. 11, 2001 (more than the number killed in Islam-inspired terror attacks over the same period). Ask the families of the victims who were killed by a lone-wolf gunman at a Colorado Planned Parenthood last month. Sit down with a member of one of the many Muslim communities that have been targeted in Islamophobic incidents since the attacks in Paris.
If it had been a Muslim suspected of planning a violent attack in the U.S., rather than a white man suspected of planning to do harm to Muslims, it's hard not to think this story would have already resulted in further backlash against practitioners of Islam. Somehow, though, we don't think anyone is going to vandalize a white-owned business because of the charges against Celli, or propose increased surveillance on wherever it is white people hang out to make sure we stay on top of their possible radicalization.
If Americans now see terrorism as the most pressing issue facing the nation, it's important to remember that no one race, religion or political ideology has an exclusive claim on terror itself.
UPDATE: 7 p.m. -- In a statement, the Richmond Police Department described the item removed from Celli's house as "a possible homemade explosive device." The RPD said that authorities "detonated the device which was later found to be inert."
Celli is being held on $525,000 bail. The San Jose Mercury News reports that Celli attracted police attention earlier this month, "when he threatened members of the Islamic Society of West Contra Costa County in Richmond."





LadyConstanze -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/22/2015 3:15:10 AM)

Kenyan Muslims shield Christians in Mandera bus attack

A group of Kenyan Muslims travelling on a bus ambushed by Islamist gunmen protected Christian passengers by refusing to be split into groups, according to eyewitnesses.

They told the militants "to kill them together or leave them alone", a local governor told Kenyan media.

At least two people were killed in the attack, near the north-eastern village of El Wak on the Somali border.

The Somali based al-Shabab group is the main suspect for the attack.

It has not said if it was responsible, but often carries out attacks in Kenya's north-east.

The bus was travelling from the capital Nairobi to the town of Mandera.

When al-Shabab killed 148 people in an attack on Garissa University College in April, the militants reportedly singled out Christians and shot them, while freeing many Muslims.

Africa Live: BBC news updates
Why is al-Shabab targeting Kenya?

"The locals showed a sense of patriotism and belonging to each other," Mandera governor Ali Roba told Kenya's private Daily Nation newspaper.

The militants decided to leave after the passengers' show of unity, he added.

An employee of the Makkah bus company, who had spoken to the driver involved in the attack, confirmed to the BBC that Muslims had refused to be separated from their fellow Christian passengers.




PeonForHer -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/22/2015 4:29:56 AM)

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Kenyan Muslims shield Christians in Mandera bus attack


I was reading that story late last night. I thought it astonishingly brave of those people, considering that even sympathisers of Christians are in danger from these Islamist fruitcakes in a lot of places. Somewhat irrational, I know, but I started thinking, 'You Muslims: OK, I owe you one.'




DesideriScuri -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/22/2015 3:27:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/12/20/tip-leads-bomb-squad-to-man-suspected-of-making-bombs-in-richmond-home-to-harm-muslims/


Glad the tip came in, and the guy was caught without anyone being harmed.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Kenyan Muslims shield Christians in Mandera bus attack
A group of Kenyan Muslims travelling on a bus ambushed by Islamist gunmen protected Christian passengers by refusing to be split into groups, according to eyewitnesses.


That's awesome! Very brave people there.





ifmaz -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/22/2015 9:59:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Kenyan Muslims shield Christians in Mandera bus attack


I was reading that story late last night. I thought it astonishingly brave of those people, considering that even sympathisers of Christians are in danger from these Islamist fruitcakes in a lot of places. Somewhat irrational, I know, but I started thinking, 'You Muslims: OK, I owe you one.'


A very "I am Spartacus" moment. I'd like to think many Germans did this to protect their Jewish friends, unfortunately with worse results.




joether -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 1:18:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/12/20/tip-leads-bomb-squad-to-man-suspected-of-making-bombs-in-richmond-home-to-harm-muslims/


Glad the tip came in, and the guy was caught without anyone being harmed.


Problem is that many of these individuals are being 'egged on' by Republican candidates directly and indirectly. Its one thing for a candidate to state they have a displeasure towards one group of people; its quite different when one uses that political stump to incite people into a violent course of action. That the FBI and local authorities are finding these individuals in greater numbers each year (this year at a much higher rate) is worrisome. That law enforcement can trace organizations, but, lone wolves are much harder to detect. Its individuals that feel they must take the law into their own hands to protect America. Its basically, "The Ends Justify the Means". Their intended target is most often someone or an organization that is opposed to religious fantasist or fundamentalist.

These candidates really do have an effect on people. Its healthy to motivate people to use the system to get citizens and government to push in a way through the system. Its unhealthy to push fear and hate mongering well past the limits and then act surprise when someone moron like this character shows up in the news. This is a power that is being wield careless and recklessly.

Yes the good guys got lucky this time. Will they be lucky next time? Or will innocent Americans pay a heavy penalty for such reckless speeches from GOP candidates? As time marches towards the next election in eleven months, are we to experience this stuff on a greater frequency? Or will cooler heads prevail?




bounty44 -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 5:07:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: joether

Problem is that many of these individuals are being 'egged on' by Republican candidates directly and indirectly. Its one thing for a candidate to state they have a displeasure towards one group of people; its quite different when one uses that political stump to incite people into a violent course of action. That the FBI and local authorities are finding these individuals in greater numbers each year (this year at a much higher rate) is worrisome. That law enforcement can trace organizations, but, lone wolves are much harder to detect. Its individuals that feel they must take the law into their own hands to protect America. Its basically, "The Ends Justify the Means". Their intended target is most often someone or an organization that is opposed to religious fantasist or fundamentalist.

These candidates really do have an effect on people.


please do enlighten us comrade with all the exact quotes by the republican candidates that are "inciting violence." knock yourself out on that...

and of course, these things never happen outside of election cycles right?

and also of course, you already know the perpetrator's background here right---that he actually pays any attention at all to the candidates as opposed to just reading the local newspaper? gee, wouldn't it be great for you if he was tea party/nra member who donated to ted cruz and watches fox news?




PeonForHer -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 5:23:10 AM)

I've noticed that it doesn't take much to kick off an upsurge in violence against this or that group. It seems like there's a large demographic that is always keenly sensitive to anything said by those 'at the top of society' that they can interpret to mean 'You are allowed to hate this or that kind of person'. So, one slightly sneering and condemnatory comment about disability benefits claimants by the prime minister, backed up by certain sections of the press, for instance, leads to disability benefits claimants being heckled on the street and even beaten up.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 5:50:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: joether
Problem is that many of these individuals are being 'egged on' by Republican candidates ...


Have a merry-go-fuck-yourself Christmas, Joether.






Staleek -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 5:57:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I've noticed that it doesn't take much to kick off an upsurge in violence against this or that group. It seems like there's a large demographic that is always keenly sensitive to anything said by those 'at the top of society' that they can interpret to mean 'You are allowed to hate this or that kind of person'. So, one slightly sneering and condemnatory comment about disability benefits claimants by the prime minister, backed up by certain sections of the press, for instance, leads to disability benefits claimants being heckled on the street and even beaten up.


It's actually mutual, and circular, but the principle problem is the gutter press, whether Fox News or the Daily Mail.

The papers get all in a tizzy over something stupid (benefit cheat "stole" £5,000! but no mention of the unpaid taxes by JP Morgan today anywhere). The people demand action. The government promise action and have a "crack down" or a "war on" whatever it is the people are complaining about. The media find out that is what people are interested in getting angry about, so they run even more articles about it, the people think this is happening all the time when it isn't so demand even more action, the government go even further etc etc.

Until this cycle of stupidity is broken things are only going to become ever more oppressive and tyrannical whether you're a Muslim, a poor person, black person, disabled person, academic, etc.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 5:58:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I've noticed that it doesn't take much to kick off an upsurge in violence against this or that group. It seems like there's a large demographic that is always keenly sensitive to anything said by those 'at the top of society' that they can interpret to mean 'You are allowed to hate this or that kind of person'. So, one slightly sneering and condemnatory comment about disability benefits claimants by the prime minister, backed up by certain sections of the press, for instance, leads to disability benefits claimants being heckled on the street and even beaten up.


You ARE allowed to hate this person, that person, this group, or that group. You're even allowed to talk about it, and state it as loud as you want. To be honest, I want people to be more open with that kind of shit. It identifies their ignorance.

What we are NOT allowed to do, is to infringe on the rights of those individuals.

If this guy was targeting a known terrorist cell that was planning it's own strike, I'd still be happy the tip came in, he got raided, and no one got hurt.






Lucylastic -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 6:08:06 AM)

Well we have baby parts liar fiorina, we have cruz being endorsed by a guy who wants death for gayss oh aand abortion doctors. Then there is trump and his turgid shit, saying what he feels is the truth
Nobody wants to talk about white men who kill.
The grosss bullshit of course will incite morons.
And ignorant arses will deny it




joether -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 10:19:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
please do enlighten us comrade with all the exact quotes by the republican candidates that are "inciting violence." knock yourself out on that...


You have not been paying attention (which is pretty much the norm for you). Never heard of someone called 'Donald Trump'? Yeah, he's running in the election for the Republican ticket. Then there is the cast of 'American Clown Car 2016' that all have elephants stamped to their asses. Mr. Cruz, Mr. Carson, etc. Some stating more offense stuff then others. But Mr. Trump has stated the most offensive material.

In fact, I created a thread about it. You replied. Here is one of your posts:

"gee, caught us. you forgot to mention we don't like him because he's black too.

we understand him all too well, he's a liberal and we reject liberal premises, policies and solutions to problems.

is that so hard for you to understand?

(and i'll keep trying until critical mass is reached: "who" is a subject, "whom" is an object. "who" acts. "whom" is acted upon.)"

That you knew the subject material enough to enter into the thread, shows you knew at the very least some of Mr. Trump's 'interesting language'. Therefore your....A LIAR!

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44
and of course, these things never happen outside of election cycles right?


No, there is plenty of racist and offensive comments coming from the GOP/TP camp each and every day. Or have you forgotten the word 'Benghazi' and everything that was done by your party and you over the past few months? Or attacking the current President over his eligibility to run for President; all the while saying nothing of Mr. Cruz's eligibility? How about the ACA? That's five years of conservatives stating Americans should storm the White House and take down the tyrant in office. Yeah, there is...PLENTY....of evidence of the GOP/TP along with the conservative media stating stuff that could incite people towards violence.

This summer when Jade Helm 15 was to be active, the Governor of Texas got 'in' on the act. Rather than stating to those in his state that the exercises were just that, he sided with the lunatic morons. That it was some great conspiracy to take over Texas by the Obama Administration. Why would a US President take over land that is already the property of the United States of America?

So in conclusion, your party is full of shit. It is a political mess. It has nothing useful to help out Americas. The only thing they have is preaching hatred and animosity (i.e. inciting a riot) and not taking responsibility for their actions. They know that people like you will never do such a thing. They place enough fear in your mind, and you'll do anything....including....voting against the US Constitution. In fact your mind will find ways to support the fear as 'justifiable'. You always have....




thompsonx -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 10:20:27 AM)

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

You ARE allowed to hate this person, that person, this group, or that group.

You are allowed to eat shit and bark at the moon but that would not be as much fun now would it?



If this guy was targeting a known terrorist cell that was planning it's own strike,

Funny how you are the only one who would suggest that[8|]




joether -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 10:31:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
quote:

ORIGINAL: joether
Problem is that many of these individuals are being 'egged on' by Republican candidates ...


Have a merry-go-fuck-yourself Christmas, Joether.


And a happy fucking New Year DesideriScuri!





WickedsDesire -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/23/2015 10:35:37 AM)

Kenyan Muslims shield Christians in Mandera bus attack worth its own thread ladyC

'You are allowed to hate this or that kind of person'. So, one slightly sneering and condemnatory comment about disability benefits claimants by the prime minister, backed up by certain sections of the press...worth its own thread peon

According to figures from the US Department of Justice and Council on Foreign Affairs, 11,385 people died on average annually in firearm incidents in the US between 2001 and 2011.
In the same period, an average of 517 people were killed annually in terror-related incidents. Removing 2001, when 9/11 occurred, leaves an annual average of just 31.
Full BBC article

In another post, he refers to an "invasion" of "illegals."
"I have lost 30% of my business to to Hispanics coming to my country under false pretenses ... and freeload in construction or in the blue collar sector they need to go back home lets not talk about the welfare they suck dry," Celli wrote in June 2014, a year before Trump announced his bid for the presidency.

needs a fking history lesson







thompsonx -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/24/2015 10:36:01 AM)

If this guy was targeting a known terrorist cell that was planning it's own strike,

Is this meant to plant the seed of validity for this scumbags actions? Only a punkassmotherfucker would assume that this moron had any motive except to murder innocent people.
Gotta ask why you would bring this insipid concept to print? What is your motive?
[8|]




Greta75 -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/24/2015 10:52:16 AM)

FR

You see, if it's a white terrorist. Nobody has any issues tipping off authorities. Because it's okay to discriminate and profile evil white people. And that's great! People shouldn't fear tipping off things like that. That's how we prevent bombs from going off.

But nobody dared to report the Californian terrorists, because they were Muslims and they were too frighten to discriminate and profile evil Muslim people.

I know Muslim is not a race, but these were clearly Muslim people by the lady's dress code. Pretty sure it's a fair profiling that they are Muslims when they are in the baggy ninja suits. A Japanese ninja would be more body hugging.




Greta75 -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/24/2015 11:02:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Kenyan Muslims shield Christians in Mandera bus attack

You do realise, now the same argument used for terrorist Muslims can be used for good Muslims. Not all Muslims are evil. Not all Muslims are good.
Or do we only recognize their good deeds, and claim they are Muslims but deny their bad deeds, and claim they aren't Muslims?

The is the whole problem, EVEN with the Christian God. If something good happens. It's God's work. If something bad happens. It's Satan's work or definitely nothing to do with God.








thompsonx -> RE: Man Suspected Of Making Bombs In Richmond Home To Harm Muslims (12/24/2015 11:05:58 AM)

ORIGINAL: Greta75

FR

You see, if it's a white terrorist. Nobody has any issues tipping off authorities. Because it's okay to discriminate and profile evil white people.

Really how was this clown profiled? You post the most stupid comments

And that's great! People shouldn't fear tipping off things like that. That's how we prevent bombs from going off.

But nobody dared to report the Californian terrorists, because they were Muslims and they were too frighten to discriminate and profile evil Muslim people.

Just who knew about those two that could have tipped off the authorities?
Why do you post such stupid shit? Does it just taste good comming out of your mouth?


I know Muslim is not a race, but these were clearly Muslim people by the lady's dress code.

Only muslim terrorist dress in that manner...who knew?[8|]

Pretty sure it's a fair profiling that they are Muslims when they are in the baggy ninja suits. A Japanese ninja would be more body hugging.

How can you be sure that japanese ninjas are not muslim?[8|]




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