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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/27/2015 2:14:12 PM   
blnymph


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Status: offline 		are you sure that what you label "beer" is really worth being called beer ...?
have you ever tried real beer?

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/30/2015 4:24:18 AM   
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are you sure that what you label "beer" is really worth being called beer ...?
have you ever tried real beer?


Fortunately we can import quality even if we choose not to produce it.

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/30/2015 5:36:53 AM   
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are you sure that what you label "beer" is really worth being called beer ...?
have you ever tried real beer?


Fortunately we can import quality even if we choose not to produce it.


Decent real ale doesn't travel so if you don't brew it locally you can't import it when at its best.


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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/30/2015 7:36:37 AM   
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are you sure that what you label "beer" is really worth being called beer ...?
have you ever tried real beer?


Fortunately we can import quality even if we choose not to produce it.

Decent real ale doesn't travel so if you don't brew it locally you can't import it when at its best.

Fortunately I live close to the boarder

http://realbeer.com/hops/renegade.html

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/30/2015 7:42:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, but you aren't even in the UK so unless you can shrink that border to less than 100 miles from the brewery, you don't get 'good' decent beer.
Of all the wet brown stuff I suffered trying to find a good beer over the pond, I didn't find any.
Even the imported Newcastle Brown Ale tasted like crap compared to what we have here.
And you can shove the Coors and Bud where the sun don't shine, it's barely fit to clean the bog.

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/30/2015 7:50:26 AM   
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Yeah, but you aren't even in the UK so unless you can shrink that border to less than 100 miles from the brewery, you don't get 'good' decent beer.


Opinions vary.

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/30/2015 8:33:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice monologue on Pale Ales - notably written by an American.
However, a lot of good decent beers are not pale ales at all but more the darker, slightly sweeter ales.
And, as the article clearly states, it is the water that is specifically around the Burton area that makes the ales so good, is something you cannot duplicate elsewhere, not even in the UK.
And that is why decent good ales aren't available in the US or anywhere else in the world - at least not to the standard that we enjoy here.

What you call 'good' is no more than second-rate to us.
They are certainly better than the usual brown muck served in the US, but still second-rate.


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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/30/2015 12:53:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		freedomdwarf1, I used to share your opinions until a microbrewery I found by chance in Phoenix (Arizona) proved me completely wrong.

I now find myself living 20 minutes from the Belgian border. The local beers there blow most British beer so far out of the water it's belly up in the Gobi. Belgian beer is reliably good, from bottle or pump. British beer is too dependent on both good practice and good luck: it's just too unreliable. If you're lucky, you can sometimes get a really good beer in a decent pub that's as good as anything out of a Belgian bottle, but you can get a really good beer out of Belgian bottles all the bloody time.

And Czech beer. Yum! I've never lived there, though, so I've no clue if the nectar I was served for 10p a pint just after the Velvet Revolution was normal or deliciously unusual. It was so good I forgot to stare at the barmaid's décolletage.

The one thing British beer has got over Belgian beer is not the beer, but the pub culture in which it's found. I miss good pubs.

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/30/2015 2:36:35 PM   
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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/31/2015 12:45:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I lost my grandson today. He got drunk, puked in his sleep and asperated it. When his wife woke up, she did CPR. He had a heart attack in the Ambulance and another one in the ER. He left behind a wife and 4 kids. He was 39.

PLEASE PARTY IN MODERATION TONIGHT. I don't always agree with everythig that everyone says, but I don't want to lose any of you.

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/31/2015 12:55:23 PM   
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I lost my grandson today. He got drunk, puked in his sleep and asperated it. When his wife woke up, she did CPR. He had a heart attack in the Ambulance and another one in the ER. He left behind a wife and 4 kids. He was 39.

PLEASE PARTY IN MODERATION TONIGHT. I don't always agree with everythig that everyone says, but I don't want to lose any of you.

Ken

Ken Im so sorry for your loss..so very sorry, Sending you and your family my condolences and prayers.
Sending a virtual hug.
FOr everyone else, please stay safe and enjoy your new year.


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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/31/2015 1:38:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

I lost my grandson today. He got drunk, puked in his sleep and asperated it. When his wife woke up, she did CPR. He had a heart attack in the Ambulance and another one in the ER. He left behind a wife and 4 kids. He was 39.

PLEASE PARTY IN MODERATION TONIGHT. I don't always agree with everythig that everyone says, but I don't want to lose any of you.

Ken

Can't imagine what you and your family are going through. Prayers to you. I will be hugging my own son a little tighter tonight.

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/31/2015 4:01:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you all. Alcohol in excess is one of the things I oppose so much. I don't go to bars. When asked if I drink I always answer maybe 2 shots a year (for me that is heavy drinking - not an expression of others because my wife drinks some and I don't oppose her). It was a warning to my friends about potential things that can happen and my deisre to see all of you back next year. :D

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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/31/2015 5:05:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey
I lost my grandson today. He got drunk, puked in his sleep and asperated it. When his wife woke up, she did CPR. He had a heart attack in the Ambulance and another one in the ER. He left behind a wife and 4 kids. He was 39.

PLEASE PARTY IN MODERATION TONIGHT. I don't always agree with everythig that everyone says, but I don't want to lose any of you.

Ken

Ken, I'm very sorry to read this. Please accept our condolences for you and your family for your loss.



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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/31/2015 5:14:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

I lost my grandson today. He got drunk, puked in his sleep and asperated it. When his wife woke up, she did CPR. He had a heart attack in the Ambulance and another one in the ER. He left behind a wife and 4 kids. He was 39.

PLEASE PARTY IN MODERATION TONIGHT. I don't always agree with everythig that everyone says, but I don't want to lose any of you.

Ken


My heart goes out to you and your whole family.

Honestly, I feel your pain.


Peace and comfort to you and yours,



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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/31/2015 5:21:58 PM   
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RE: Go easy on the egg nog, or punch or.....? - 12/31/2015 6:22:44 PM   
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You have my deepest sympathy and most heartfelt condolances.

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