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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

https://www.facebook.com/john.pickering.127/videos/10153055728726682/?fref=nf

This is an interesting and good explanation, using UN numbers, why immigration isn't the solution to world poverty.

Additionally, There is one commenter that wants to stop military spending and dedicate it to foreign aid. As one who had to arrange for the entire contents of food from USAID that was stored in a warehouse and take it to sea for disposal, there are just to many obsticles to overcome like the local warlords, etc. I don't see that as a solution.

The only advantage of the investment of the wealthy in foreign countries is cheap labor, which Americans generally don't like. Yet they fail to factor in the local cost of living compared to the US. You raise the wages for those people to be on par with the US and they still can't afford goods and services because the employed in those countries will amount to a small percentage (generally speaking) of the population of those countries. yes they will hire servents, have fancy cars and houses, buy russian weapons, but the country itself as a general rule doesn't grow.

My 2 cents.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

https://www.facebook.com/john.pickering.127/videos/10153055728726682/?fref=nf

This is an interesting and good explanation, using UN numbers, why immigration isn't the solution to world poverty.

Additionally, There is one commenter that wants to stop military spending and dedicate it to foreign aid. As one who had to arrange for the entire contents of food from USAID that was stored in a warehouse and take it to sea for disposal, there are just to many obsticles to overcome like the local warlords, etc. I don't see that as a solution.

The only advantage of the investment of the wealthy in foreign countries is cheap labor, which Americans generally don't like. Yet they fail to factor in the local cost of living compared to the US. You raise the wages for those people to be on par with the US and they still can't afford goods and services because the employed in those countries will amount to a small percentage (generally speaking) of the population of those countries. yes they will hire servents, have fancy cars and houses, buy russian weapons, but the country itself as a general rule doesn't grow.

My 2 cents.

so how does this dude in the vid propose to "help them there" (& keep em outta the US)??? And who said immigration was the solution to world poverty?? I cant imagine anyone actually saying something as stupid as that..

BTW, any civilized developed country (like the US) needs population growth of about 2.1% to have a strong economy and Americans arent having enough babies to do that, so if the US does want a strong economy it needs immigrants to make up the shortfall of that 2.1%.. cuz if the population isnt at least replacing itself it then the economy shrinks...

So Americans dont like cheap labor in those countries, yet they dont like to pay 2 or 3 or more times the cost of goods for "Made in America" stuff.. Americans cant have it both ways and seems to me that Americans have repeatedly voted with their wallets in that choice.. They may not "like" the cheap labor but they love the cheap everyday low prices!.. just sayin'

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why immigration isn't the solution to world poverty.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"BTW, any civilized developed country (like the US) needs population growth of about 2.1% to have a strong economy and Americans arent having enough babies to do that, so if the US does want a strong economy it needs immigrants to make up the shortfall of that 2.1%.. cuz if the population isnt at least replacing itself it then the economy shrinks... "

Why do people keep up with the mantra that an economy must grow, the ideal situation is a static economy with a static population.

Know why ? Because they ain't makin' no mo land.

We are already overpopulated. We would be dead without mass food production but with that comes the dilution of the essential minerals in the food and causes all kinds of health problems. Not enough sulfur goodbye gall bladder. Not enough manganese, hello kidney stone. Not enough chromium or (not and) vanadium get that insulin needle out. Known fact in some parts of the world, but apparently not here.

They get paid by the pound so they do not care, and what they're doing with chemicals and GMOs is going to have results that cannot be predicted.

We got ghettos, and people do not live in them by choice as some have in Europe in the past. You may say the population density is low in the US, but here you got one guy owns a golf course and a few hundred acres just to hunt on, and another living with ten of his siblings in a three room apartment. It is not evenly distributed and when others come, they do not go to farmland.

I have known alot of immigrants, but not illegal ones. From Europe and whatever, skilled. They pay taxes.

But if you come from a country with no economy and no industry and no education, the only thing you can get here is a handout. And we are sick of giving handouts.

T^T

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

https://www.facebook.com/john.pickering.127/videos/10153055728726682/?fref=nf

This is an interesting and good explanation, using UN numbers, why immigration isn't the solution to world poverty.

Additionally, There is one commenter that wants to stop military spending and dedicate it to foreign aid. As one who had to arrange for the entire contents of food from USAID that was stored in a warehouse and take it to sea for disposal, there are just to many obsticles to overcome like the local warlords, etc. I don't see that as a solution.

The only advantage of the investment of the wealthy in foreign countries is cheap labor, which Americans generally don't like. Yet they fail to factor in the local cost of living compared to the US. You raise the wages for those people to be on par with the US and they still can't afford goods and services because the employed in those countries will amount to a small percentage (generally speaking) of the population of those countries. yes they will hire servents, have fancy cars and houses, buy russian weapons, but the country itself as a general rule doesn't grow.

My 2 cents.

so how does this dude in the vid propose to "help them there" (& keep em outta the US)??? And who said immigration was the solution to world poverty?? I cant imagine anyone actually saying something as stupid as that..

BTW, any civilized developed country (like the US) needs population growth of about 2.1% to have a strong economy and Americans arent having enough babies to do that, so if the US does want a strong economy it needs immigrants to make up the shortfall of that 2.1%.. cuz if the population isnt at least replacing itself it then the economy shrinks...

So Americans dont like cheap labor in those countries, yet they dont like to pay 2 or 3 or more times the cost of goods for "Made in America" stuff.. Americans cant have it both ways and seems to me that Americans have repeatedly voted with their wallets in that choice.. They may not "like" the cheap labor but they love the cheap everyday low prices!.. just sayin'

Then you haven't paid attention to the illegal immigrant conversations where we are constantly told that the illegals (or as the open border people call them undocumented) are going to help the economy and save us from our economic problems.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

https://www.facebook.com/john.pickering.127/videos/10153055728726682/?fref=nf

This is an interesting and good explanation, using UN numbers, why immigration isn't the solution to world poverty.

Additionally, There is one commenter that wants to stop military spending and dedicate it to foreign aid. As one who had to arrange for the entire contents of food from USAID that was stored in a warehouse and take it to sea for disposal, there are just to many obsticles to overcome like the local warlords, etc. I don't see that as a solution.

The only advantage of the investment of the wealthy in foreign countries is cheap labor, which Americans generally don't like. Yet they fail to factor in the local cost of living compared to the US. You raise the wages for those people to be on par with the US and they still can't afford goods and services because the employed in those countries will amount to a small percentage (generally speaking) of the population of those countries. yes they will hire servents, have fancy cars and houses, buy russian weapons, but the country itself as a general rule doesn't grow.

My 2 cents.

so how does this dude in the vid propose to "help them there" (& keep em outta the US)??? And who said immigration was the solution to world poverty?? I cant imagine anyone actually saying something as stupid as that..

BTW, any civilized developed country (like the US) needs population growth of about 2.1% to have a strong economy and Americans arent having enough babies to do that, so if the US does want a strong economy it needs immigrants to make up the shortfall of that 2.1%.. cuz if the population isnt at least replacing itself it then the economy shrinks...

So Americans dont like cheap labor in those countries, yet they dont like to pay 2 or 3 or more times the cost of goods for "Made in America" stuff.. Americans cant have it both ways and seems to me that Americans have repeatedly voted with their wallets in that choice.. They may not "like" the cheap labor but they love the cheap everyday low prices!.. just sayin'

Then you haven't paid attention to the illegal immigrant conversations where we are constantly told that the illegals (or as the open border people call them undocumented) are going to help the economy and save us from our economic problems.

The immigration problem in the nation is a minor problem. Your side drums it up due to 'lack of anything useful to discuss'. Your party has Congress; why are they not creating immigration reform and a wall along the Southern border of the United States? What is the excuse....THIS TIME? Just so you know this excuse will be #384732943. Yes, they have stated plenty of excuses in the past. Now, they have had control of Congress for the past year and only managed to pass a budget bill.

You want to see the nation out of its financial problems?

A ) Raise federal iminimum wages to $15/hour
B ) Set taxes on the top two tiers of the Income Tax to what they were under Reagan
C ) Score the money from A & B above and pay off the national debt inside 11-13 years

'A' will result in more consumption then in any time in the last 35 years. Yes, there will be some of those conservative business owners that will 'lay people off' in political protest. Yet, when it is shown that those on welfare drop significantly, we can cut some of the welfare dollars (thus saving tax payers hundreds of billions). The rich get fairly taxed once more and now must 'work for a living' instead of lounging around. The result is an economic boom for the nation. Shortly after that the middle class will see many advances.

While that is all going on, Congress (which is Democratically controlled) will past immigration reform that is not Nazi-oriented (like the Republican Party would pass). It will be like the Affordable Care Act, just better. Why better? The Democrats will have learned the harsh lesson from the ACA: including Republicans in on the development phase of the bill. No, they'll just completely shut them out since they knew Republicans will vote against.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: tj444

So Americans dont like cheap labor in those countries, yet they dont like to pay 2 or 3 or more times the cost of goods for "Made in America" stuff.. Americans cant have it both ways and seems to me that Americans have repeatedly voted with their wallets in that choice.. They may not "like" the cheap labor but they love the cheap everyday low prices!.. just sayin'

Look how much crap is bought at wallmart and harbor frieght?
The fools buy it then complain about the low quality disregarding the fact that it was an amerikan who went to china and had it imported.

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Joe


The immigration problem in the nation is a minor problem. Your side drums it up due to 'lack of anything useful to discuss'. Your party has Congress; why are they not creating immigration reform and a wall along the Southern border of the United States? What is the excuse....THIS TIME? Just so you know this excuse will be #384732943. Yes, they have stated plenty of excuses in the past. Now, they have had control of Congress for the past year and only managed to pass a budget bill.

You want to see the nation out of its financial problems?

A ) Raise federal iminimum wages to $15/hour
B ) Set taxes on the top two tiers of the Income Tax to what they were under Reagan
C ) Score the money from A & B above and pay off the national debt inside 11-13 years

'A' will result in more consumption then in any time in the last 35 years. Yes, there will be some of those conservative business owners that will 'lay people off' in political protest. Yet, when it is shown that those on welfare drop significantly, we can cut some of the welfare dollars (thus saving tax payers hundreds of billions). The rich get fairly taxed once more and now must 'work for a living' instead of lounging around. The result is an economic boom for the nation. Shortly after that the middle class will see many advances.

While that is all going on, Congress (which is Democratically controlled) will past immigration reform that is not Nazi-oriented (like the Republican Party would pass). It will be like the Affordable Care Act, just better. Why better? The Democrats will have learned the harsh lesson from the ACA: including Republicans in on the development phase of the bill. No, they'll just completely shut them out since they knew Republicans will vote against.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Have you not heard of the "American Dream" and all those success stories???? its to come to the US with no money or education and work hard, save and invest your money and one day become the CEO or your own multi-billion dollar company.. isnt that what lots of previous immigrants have done for decades? Not having an "education", not having money is not an impediment to success and "riches", the impediments are being dumb, being lazy, which imo most immigrants arent.. those born here are more likely to be the dumb and lazy ones (that like to game the system).. just sayin'

That is the rhetoric of the amerikan dream but hardly the reality.

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ORIGINAL: joether
You want to see the nation out of its financial problems?
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B ) Set taxes on the top two tiers of the Income Tax to what they were under Reagan
C ) Score the money from A & B above and pay off the national debt inside 11-13 years

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