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PeonForHer -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/5/2016 2:41:27 PM)
quote: Have a nice day. Hang on .... K, did you really just post stats to show that both American righties and American lefties are on the thick side? If so, who on the American political spectrum is not a dimwit?

mnottertail -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/5/2016 3:11:21 PM)
Guuuuuuuuumbies.

Phydeaux -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/5/2016 7:27:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 or you can deal with a more sobering view of reality as opposed to liberal talking points (when have those ever really materialized?) global impact of global warming policy Global Warming Policies Hurt the Poor - NCPA Here's How Global Warming Policies Harm The Poor Or the study conducted by Yale university that says even if IPCC AGW were true, the best course of action would be to do nothing, as the world's economies would grow faster than the costs to ameliorate.

Phydeaux -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/5/2016 7:29:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Staleek And this is why conservatives are considered less intelligent than others. For failure to kowtow to your world view?

MariaB -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 2:48:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers For example, almost all presidential candidates on the right are pushing for tax cuts. If accomplished and as usual, without widespread cut in spending, will expand govt. and consumer debt, even more. It is very possible that the world (et al) will stop lending Americans the money to satisfy all of the hands out. It is merely more of that partisan wrangling that will label just who those hands belong to. As I've written. The US may have, may have about one more generation of this bullshit before [we] are cut off. (the Chinese make me laugh when they claim they will repossess America) Lenders to the US will either collect their debt or sell it. There are no other alternatives. When they sell it, they take a huge loss. When we see that, it's time to worry. When one looks at starting with the last 35 years when the US was quite deliberately taken into a massive debt-driven expansion of consumerism and military-driven hegemony, it was the slow beginning of the end. This transformation is called the long game and it is going along just fine. Oh I know! Its the federal reserve cartel and the Chinese banks that run the American economy. It’s a case of you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. China can't afford for your dollar to devalue and America can't afford for it not to. You’re between a rock and a hard place because no budding politician on this earth will be voted in by daring to suggest he raises taxes! Most people don’t even understand the basic rudiments of how the economy is run and naturally liken the government pot to their own living budget. Whoever tries to balance those books, is going to be the most demonized person in the US! Without currency depreciation, the American economy can not be stimulated but until people understand you can’t run an economy on hope, hype and speculation forever, you're basically fucked. If I were you, I wouldn't be leaving it too long before emptying my savings accounts and buying gold, because if the government suddenly starts printing money and I firmly believe that has to happen, then your savings become worthless.

thishereboi -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 3:12:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 skeptical that youre asking from a genuinely curious perspective, as opposed to taking an idiotic swipe at conservatives, but before I even go there and shoot it to flames, or anyone else does for that matter vile critter parts.... notice its from a blog?? so just from that perspective alone, cant be true right?? remember that the next time you give anyone grief for posting material from a blogger? He didn't ask any question so I would say he is just taking another idiotic swipe at conservatives. But that doesn't surprise me a bit, what does surprise me is why anyone bothers to respond to him.

bounty44 -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 4:14:36 AM)
I think that's an excellent point but in fairness, he did later say something about creating garbage and our having to clean it up!

Staleek -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 6:15:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: Staleek And this is why conservatives are considered less intelligent than others. For failure to kowtow to your world view? No. A failure to kowtow to reality. My worldview is immaterial to what is actually taking place in the world, and there are certain things happening which are undeniable fact; Humans are causing climate change, the easy availability of firearms in the USA is contributing to gun crime, the Islamic population of earth is not comprised mainly of genocidal terrorists, and being poor is not a mark of laziness. These are facts. What to do about these facts is what constitutes a world view, but they are nevertheless reality. The problem isn't that conservatives disagree on what to do about these issues, the problem is conservatives are unwilling to even accept that these things exist.

MrRodgers -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 10:08:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers For example, almost all presidential candidates on the right are pushing for tax cuts. If accomplished and as usual, without widespread cut in spending, will expand govt. and consumer debt, even more. It is very possible that the world (et al) will stop lending Americans the money to satisfy all of the hands out. It is merely more of that partisan wrangling that will label just who those hands belong to. As I've written. The US may have, may have about one more generation of this bullshit before [we] are cut off. (the Chinese make me laugh when they claim they will repossess America) Lenders to the US will either collect their debt or sell it. There are no other alternatives. When they sell it, they take a huge loss. When we see that, it's time to worry. When one looks at starting with the last 35 years when the US was quite deliberately taken into a massive debt-driven expansion of consumerism and military-driven hegemony, it was the slow beginning of the end. This transformation is called the long game and it is going along just fine. Oh I know! Its the federal reserve cartel and the Chinese banks that run the American economy. It’s a case of you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. China can't afford for your dollar to devalue and America can't afford for it not to. You’re between a rock and a hard place because no budding politician on this earth will be voted in by daring to suggest he raises taxes! Most people don’t even understand the basic rudiments of how the economy is run and naturally liken the government pot to their own living budget. Whoever tries to balance those books, is going to be the most demonized person in the US! Without currency depreciation, the American economy can not be stimulated but until people understand you can’t run an economy on hope, hype and speculation forever, you're basically fucked. If I were you, I wouldn't be leaving it too long before emptying my savings accounts and buying gold, because if the government suddenly starts printing money and I firmly believe that has to happen, then your savings become worthless. Actually in that I am not young anymore, I was thinking of Switzerland. The Swiss franc has been the best post WWII currency vs the US dollar of all currencies and enjoys a steady forex volume. (arbitrage) Plus the Swiss may do all they can to support the western banking cartel but do not rely upon the US dollar for foreign exchange reserves. You are correct about the Chinese and their addiction to binding the yuan to the US dollar but the Russians are already fucked, only living off their oil. I think it still takes a 'dollar' to buy a 'pound' of rubles, as they saying goes. Maybe it's 1/2 pound now. The Euro is finally reflecting a long delayed volatility in its reliance also upon an ever increasing debt-driven consumerism and their elite's continued desire for a free lunch, not being able to tax only the people to then hand out so much...to the people resulting in yet more austerity or more debt. Some friends in that vain, years ago, formed an off-shore private investment trust in Swiss francs and lend in francs but only with a big bank guarantee, still saving borrowers at least 1 point. Sometimes more, like with a guarantee from the Canadian Royal Bank. Example: I almost got $22 million (in Swiss francs) to re-finance a bldg in no. Va. but the tenant was Logicon (Northrop-Grumman) which does the software for the B1 and B2 bombers and the govt. wouldn't even allow a foreign mortgage holder, let alone buyer. Bitches. That was going to be a real nice ticket. I mean what the fuck were the Swiss and the Canadians going to do and with such a AAA credit tenant ?

Hillwilliam -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 2:07:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam To the OP. Racism and low IQ. Absodamnlutely a link. Conservatism and low IQ. It depends on how you define a Conservative. Conservative (pre Reagan) =believes in less hassle and fewer hoops to jump thru for the average guy...........no Conservative (post Reagan) = Willing to believe a guy with a pocket full of cash and a never opened Bible under his arm wanting to run everyone else's life..........yes. dumber than a box of hair So let me get this straight. Are you saying its causation or correlation? If correlation, you are saying that american blacks, who average 1.1 standard deviations - call it 14 points below whites are therefore more likely to be racists? Really? I'm saying that people who cannot string together a coherent thought aren't very bright. People who aren't very bright (of any race) tend to be racist. Reread your post.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 2:11:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux I'm on a phone, can't cut and paste at the moment. But crop yields have increased 11% due to increased co2 according to 2 studies. Out of how many? 50,242,167? Maybe it's because of longer growing seasons. [8\|]

Hillwilliam -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 2:15:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Do you understand that personal attacks really don't answer a logical argument? Even if Cons has lower IQ, Libs seem to do more personal attacking in their arguments than Cons here to. Libs has this superiority complex. That's why I've always preferred Cons. And as a minority race, I guess they are suppose to be racist towards me, since they are supposingly racist, but I never felt it. Maybe they have a superiority complex because they can express themselves in proper English. Note: I'm not liberal but, as an ex teacher, I DO recognize semi-literacy. Be the way, when you said that liberals attack more, you never saw Sanity's posts did you?

Phydeaux -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 2:16:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux I'm on a phone, can't cut and paste at the moment. But crop yields have increased 11% due to increased co2 according to 2 studies. Out of how many? 50,242,167? Maybe it's because of longer growing seasons. [8\|] Your sarcasm and ignorance are ridiculous. There are no studies that suggest crop yields are down due to increased co2.

Phydeaux -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/6/2016 4:59:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux I'm on a phone, can't cut and paste at the moment. But crop yields have increased 11% due to increased co2 according to 2 studies. Out of how many? 50,242,167? Maybe it's because of longer growing seasons. [8\|] Here is a link to global temperature data that show 96% of the planet as had no global warming over the last 35 years.The north pole has a small warming trend. Over that same period, yields have increased dramatically. Yields are increasing for a lot of reasons. Longer growing seasons isnt one of them. Increased co2 is. But you can give a liberal facts, but you can't make him abandon his preconceived notions. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/29/should-we-be-worried/ [image]local://upfiles/11137/8A9BC11C956C44E59AD77B3933C7DA01.jpg[/image]

MariaB -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/7/2016 5:55:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Actually in that I am not young anymore, I was thinking of Switzerland. The Swiss franc has been the best post WWII currency vs the US dollar of all currencies and enjoys a steady forex volume. (arbitrage) Plus the Swiss may do all they can to support the western banking cartel but do not rely upon the US dollar for foreign exchange reserves. You are correct about the Chinese and their addiction to binding the yuan to the US dollar but the Russians are already fucked, only living off their oil. I think it still takes a 'dollar' to buy a 'pound' of rubles, as they saying goes. Maybe it's 1/2 pound now. The Euro is finally reflecting a long delayed volatility in its reliance also upon an ever increasing debt-driven consumerism and their elite's continued desire for a free lunch, not being able to tax only the people to then hand out so much...to the people resulting in yet more austerity or more debt. Some friends in that vain, years ago, formed an off-shore private investment trust in Swiss francs and lend in francs but only with a big bank guarantee, still saving borrowers at least 1 point. Sometimes more, like with a guarantee from the Canadian Royal Bank. Example: I almost got $22 million (in Swiss francs) to re-finance a bldg in no. Va. but the tenant was Logicon (Northrop-Grumman) which does the software for the B1 and B2 bombers and the govt. wouldn't even allow a foreign mortgage holder, let alone buyer. Bitches. That was going to be a real nice ticket. I mean what the fuck were the Swiss and the Canadians going to do and with such a AAA credit tenant ? Europe and especially the U.K. have erred in terms of believing that a race for austerity in the short term, is the way to produce real growth. They’re wrong, it’s the quickest route to a recession. I’m not saying we shouldn’t attempt to pay back on the deficit, in fact we have no choice in that but if you suffocate a nation to get there, you strangle your economy too. Remember 2010-11 and the credit crunch? A lot of people who had bought into the Swiss franc found themselves not only re-paying 50% more but found themselves with larger loans/mortgages. Don't get me wrong, I think FX trading is a great idea but trading in currency is a high risk game. An alternative currency in precious metal is more of a safe haven, especially for things like pension pots and long term investments. On the 16th December gold hit a fantastic low and that's when I bought our family Xmas presents! They didn't get a gold necklace but they did get gold bonds they can almost certainly watch grow.

Phydeaux -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/7/2016 1:21:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Actually in that I am not young anymore, I was thinking of Switzerland. The Swiss franc has been the best post WWII currency vs the US dollar of all currencies and enjoys a steady forex volume. (arbitrage) Plus the Swiss may do all they can to support the western banking cartel but do not rely upon the US dollar for foreign exchange reserves. You are correct about the Chinese and their addiction to binding the yuan to the US dollar but the Russians are already fucked, only living off their oil. I think it still takes a 'dollar' to buy a 'pound' of rubles, as they saying goes. Maybe it's 1/2 pound now. The Euro is finally reflecting a long delayed volatility in its reliance also upon an ever increasing debt-driven consumerism and their elite's continued desire for a free lunch, not being able to tax only the people to then hand out so much...to the people resulting in yet more austerity or more debt. Some friends in that vain, years ago, formed an off-shore private investment trust in Swiss francs and lend in francs but only with a big bank guarantee, still saving borrowers at least 1 point. Sometimes more, like with a guarantee from the Canadian Royal Bank. Example: I almost got $22 million (in Swiss francs) to re-finance a bldg in no. Va. but the tenant was Logicon (Northrop-Grumman) which does the software for the B1 and B2 bombers and the govt. wouldn't even allow a foreign mortgage holder, let alone buyer. Bitches. That was going to be a real nice ticket. I mean what the fuck were the Swiss and the Canadians going to do and with such a AAA credit tenant ? Europe and especially the U.K. have erred in terms of believing that a race for austerity in the short term, is the way to produce real growth. They’re wrong, it’s the quickest route to a recession. I’m not saying we shouldn’t attempt to pay back on the deficit, in fact we have no choice in that but if you suffocate a nation to get there, you strangle your economy too. Remember 2010-11 and the credit crunch? A lot of people who had bought into the Swiss franc found themselves not only re-paying 50% more but found themselves with larger loans/mortgages. Don't get me wrong, I think FX trading is a great idea but trading in currency is a high risk game. An alternative currency in precious metal is more of a safe haven, especially for things like pension pots and long term investments. On the 16th December gold hit a fantastic low and that's when I bought our family Xmas presents! They didn't get a gold necklace but they did get gold bonds they can almost certainly watch grow. We're already in a deflationary spiral. Every major industrialized nation has devalued currency - the Chinese stock mocket crash is due to people understanding the yuan is going to depreciate further and pulling their dollars out into perceived safe havens. Most people don't realize it - but about half of recent treasury sales have been to the fed. Yep. We're selling bonds to ourselves. More or less this is continuous quantitave easing - essentially yet one more swapping deck chairs on the titanic. We HAVE to stop the insane borrowing - to the tune of 400 billion a year. If we stopped now - we might be able to pay off the debt.. in 160 years.

MrRodgers -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/7/2016 1:24:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Actually in that I am not young anymore, I was thinking of Switzerland. The Swiss franc has been the best post WWII currency vs the US dollar of all currencies and enjoys a steady forex volume. (arbitrage) Plus the Swiss may do all they can to support the western banking cartel but do not rely upon the US dollar for foreign exchange reserves. You are correct about the Chinese and their addiction to binding the yuan to the US dollar but the Russians are already fucked, only living off their oil. I think it still takes a 'dollar' to buy a 'pound' of rubles, as they saying goes. Maybe it's 1/2 pound now. The Euro is finally reflecting a long delayed volatility in its reliance also upon an ever increasing debt-driven consumerism and their elite's continued desire for a free lunch, not being able to tax only the people to then hand out so much...to the people resulting in yet more austerity or more debt. Some friends in that vain, years ago, formed an off-shore private investment trust in Swiss francs and lend in francs but only with a big bank guarantee, still saving borrowers at least 1 point. Sometimes more, like with a guarantee from the Canadian Royal Bank. Example: I almost got $22 million (in Swiss francs) to re-finance a bldg in no. Va. but the tenant was Logicon (Northrop-Grumman) which does the software for the B1 and B2 bombers and the govt. wouldn't even allow a foreign mortgage holder, let alone buyer. Bitches. That was going to be a real nice ticket. I mean what the fuck were the Swiss and the Canadians going to do and with such a AAA credit tenant ? Europe and especially the U.K. have erred in terms of believing that a race for austerity in the short term, is the way to produce real growth. They’re wrong, it’s the quickest route to a recession. I’m not saying we shouldn’t attempt to pay back on the deficit, in fact we have no choice in that but if you suffocate a nation to get there, you strangle your economy too. Remember 2010-11 and the credit crunch? A lot of people who had bought into the Swiss franc found themselves not only re-paying 50% more but found themselves with larger loans/mortgages. Don't get me wrong, I think FX trading is a great idea but trading in currency is a high risk game. An alternative currency in precious metal is more of a safe haven, especially for things like pension pots and long term investments. On the 16th December gold hit a fantastic low and that's when I bought our family Xmas presents! They didn't get a gold necklace but they did get gold bonds they can almost certainly watch grow. Oh I agree, forex arbitrage is not for the faint-hearted. But then one borrower told me he did it and because of favorable forex, had a net effective interest rate of ZERO !! Plus, that's when typical development (acquisition) loans were 7% and up. You refer to reserves against catastrophe even though gold and silver have both taken big hits. I refer to short term A & D loans but also at this point, the Swiss franc looks like a great reserve against the dollar should that catastrophe ever hit. NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The Swiss have had enough of taking the neutral stance. Sept. 6 2011 during hits on the dollar. To put a stop to the Swiss franc's rapid appreciation, the Swiss central bank announced a ceiling on the currency by setting an exchange rate minimum against the euro. On Tuesday, the Swiss National Bank (SNB) made its boldest move yet by announcing that the exchange rate between the Swiss franc and the euro must not drop below 1.20 euros. And if it does, the Swiss bank is prepared to enforce the minimum by selling francs and buying up euros "in unlimited quantities." "The current massive overvaluation of the Swiss franc poses an acute threat to the Swiss economy and carries the risk of a deflationary development," said the SNB in a statement. Immediately following the announcement, the Swiss franc sank 8.5% to trade right around 1.20 euros. Kathy Lien, director of currency research at Global Forex Trading. "They're hoping this will diminish speculative interest and safe haven attraction to the currency." HERE As of 12/31/2011 the USDCHF was $1.06 about 20-25% above its historical average. $1.24 was the recent high now settled back down to .99. 12/2020 is long now though at @ $1.14 So you see, steady against the dollar.

itsSIRtou -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/7/2016 10:20:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Do you understand that personal attacks really don't answer a logical argument? Even if Cons has lower IQ, Libs seem to do more personal attacking in their arguments than Cons here to. Libs has this superiority complex. That's why I've always preferred Cons. And as a minority race, I guess they are suppose to be racist towards me, since they are supposingly racist, but I never felt it. Maybe they have a superiority complex because they can express themselves in proper English. Note: I'm not liberal but, as an ex teacher, I DO recognize semi-literacy. Be the way, when you said that liberals attack more, you never saw Sanity's posts did you? actually "sanity" is typical of most of the conservatives I've come across. Read his posts. Rarely does his posts ever have real facts or end without a slur of some group and/or at least one blanket insulting shot at liberals. In reference to the OP,... I don't think one has to be particularly stupid to be a conservative, but I think it's easier to be a conservative if you're less educated. After all how hard is it to say no to everything if you yourself don't profit directly from it. A less educated person is more willing to accept more stereotypes and con urban legends as the truth. There are plenty of them that don't have an education past high school and the Bible, leaving most of them to be carefully taught by other conservatives to swallow and regurgitate any crap that the party line demands. The most glaring example are "birthers" who still believe even after all these years and multiple layers of documentation, all the crap about Obama's birth place and religious affiliation. Even though he's a born & raised Christian, married Christian, and his children are raised Christian, you still see some dumb ass call him a Muslim to get political points from hick conservatives. Is anybody going to really tell me that Mitt Romney was smart with all the gaffes that he made during the last presidential campaign?? Or the Republican Party nominating him in the first place, after throwing him under the bus three days after the elections were over, calling him the "wrong candidate"??

Termyn8or -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/7/2016 10:42:52 PM)
Global FR : The OP, as well as most on this forum and others, does not understand what a conservative is. True conservatives are extinct. What we got are neo-cons which is not neo conservative, is it neo-confidence man. Like grifters. And liberals ? I will let that stand because it describes it. Like FDR, a chicken in every pot but you have to turn in your gold so you and your money are at the whim of his banker buddies. Not a good trade. T^T

Phydeaux -> RE: Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand? (1/8/2016 12:07:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux I'm on a phone, can't cut and paste at the moment. But crop yields have increased 11% due to increased co2 according to 2 studies. Out of how many? 50,242,167? Maybe it's because of longer growing seasons. [8\|] Here is a link to global temperature data that show 96% of the planet as had no global warming over the last 35 years.The north pole has a small warming trend. Over that same period, yields have increased dramatically. Yields are increasing for a lot of reasons. Longer growing seasons isnt one of them. Increased co2 is. But you can give a liberal facts, but you can't make him abandon his preconceived notions. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/29/should-we-be-worried/ [image]local://upfiles/11137/8A9BC11C956C44E59AD77B3933C7DA01.jpg[/image] Did you notice no serious attempt to dispute the facts here? Presented once again with actual temperature data - I note that hill has not tried to support his ridiculous assertion about longer growing seasons... Nor any defense of "global warming" Facts are inconvenient things...

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